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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 424

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Sorry if you already answered this Adywan (or someone that knows), but will the 720p version have a PURIST version too? And is Vader going to have his lightsaber ignited from the start, and Obi-Wan ignite his in the normal time?

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I wonder if now that Rogue One put to bed any debate about the color of X-Wing exhaust (definitely pink), if you will have your edit stay consistent with what is obviously a conscious choice of the franchise. X-Wing exhaust is pink.

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Sorry if this has already been addressed.

Now with UHD (4K) TVs becoming the standard, why would Adywan be stubbornly determined that 720p is “good enough”?

I like the work being done, mostly, but have to wonder if any of us will live long enough to see it finished. (I say this with a wink and a smile, no offense intended.)

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dwsiddall said:

Sorry if this has already been addressed.

Now with UHD (4K) TVs becoming the standard, why would Adywan be stubbornly determined that 720p is “good enough”?

He’s sticking with it because the blu-ray doesn’t gain anything after 720.

I like the work being done, mostly, but have to wonder if any of us will live long enough to see it finished. (I say this with a wink and a smile, no offense intended.)

I have friends who didn’t, so maybe choose a different way of stating… whatever it is you’re trying to say.

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Not to mention some of the other sources used blend better at 720p than 1080p.

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Adywan, would you say you’re focusing more on this project or on RotJ:R?
(Sorry for asking so many questions)

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Collipso said:

Adywan, would you say you’re focusing more on this project or on EP I?
(Sorry for asking so many questions)

EP I: the gungan style 😉

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I’ve been waiting all day for someone to post this.

I don’t have any answers, it was just my first thought.

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I assume the answer would be no. but would you consider using this in your edit at all? I think it would be a great idea!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOPXhFensg

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Glad I’m not the only person who thought of Adywan when watching this! They say the full sequence will be released next year, but even with this teaser footage, someone has already edited it into the original scene.

https://streamable.com/ble6f?preset=mp4-mobile&autoplay=1

As rough as this currently is, the energy and pacing of this new scene is a massive improvement. Also, if the new footage was regraded to match the original scene, it would feel that much more seamless.

Regardless, even if Adywan decides to leave this out of ANH:R HD, I’m sure someone will combine the two… it’s a match made in heaven.

EDIT: Statement from the creator: “I don’t want to give too much away but our hope is that it can just be dropped right into the movie seamlessly!” … very promising indeed…

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I just logged on to share this video too. Glad to see it’s already getting traction.

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That edit is pretty Good for the lightsabers…

Definitely the sort of thing i like.

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LOL, I was about to bring this up too. Looking forward to seeing the entire clip…

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thathipsterkid said:

Statement from the creator: “I don’t want to give too much away but our hope is that it can just be dropped right into the movie seamlessly!” … very promising indeed…

It’s cool, but they have a loooong way to go if they intend that to be dropped into the actual movie.
They don’t seem concerned at all with matching the style of camera movement, backgrounds or lighting with the film.

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ray_afraid said:

thathipsterkid said:

Statement from the creator: “I don’t want to give too much away but our hope is that it can just be dropped right into the movie seamlessly!” … very promising indeed…

It’s cool, but they have a loooong way to go if they intend that to be dropped into the actual movie.
They don’t seem concerned at all with matching the style of camera movement, backgrounds or lighting with the film.

Maybe not. Most times in a Star Wars movie, these things take a turn in duels. Cool looking sets, new lighting, blasting SFX and whatever. So it might fit awkwardly well, like the entire movie is building up towards the moment.

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Matching the lighting can probably be done in post. I like the energy of the fight, I just hope Obi-Wan isn’t pounded back for the whole thing and he gets in some licks too.

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As cool as that extended duel is (and IT IS COOL!) I don’t feel like it would fit in very well within the original trilogy from a philosophical standpoint.

Leaving aside both their ages and states of health and whilst Darth Vader would indeed be very interested and (judging by Rogue One) still quite capable of an intense Lightsaber battle Obi Wan has been off on Tatooine meditating on the nature of the Force for nearly two decades. He’s moved past having Mustafar style swordfights (see the Rebels episode Twin Suns for an official canon example or just watch how he handles Evazian and Ponda Baba in the Cantina - efficient, concise defence is the technique he now uses) and although it might be emotionally and visually satisfying to see Vader and he face off again the point, to me, is that while Vader has been stuck in a “brute force” state of mind and actually mocks Obi Wan for being old and weak he has completely missed the fact that there is more to learn about the power of the Force.

Yoda tries to teach Luke the futility of physical conflict in Ep.V and you can also infer that he might’ve been communicating similar teachings to Obi Wan during his time on Tatooine. When Obi Wan is facing Darth Vader on the Death Star he’s at once creating a diversion for the rest of the group and also letting the Force guide him on his path. He doesn’t know he’s going to die but he knows his destiny lies on a different path to the rest of them. You could also say that he might want Vader to underestimate him. He’s not there to beat his old friend again in a lightsaber duel, he’s been there, done that and learned his lessons. Vader hasn’t, and is approaching their reunion in a far less mature manner. Vader likely sees Obi Wan’s claim of becoming more powerful than he can possibly imagine as desperate posturing. All he’s seen of the Rebellion is a quick snatch and grab attack and lots of running away so when he sees his old master as a frail-looking old man he can’t imagine he’s anything other than weaker than when they last met. Having Obi Wan miraculously disappear in front of him through a gentle, focused and articulate use of the Force is a far more effective victory than simply putting up a physically good fight.

As regards the actual “fighting” in that scene - compare how Obi Wan faces Anakin on Mustafar or how Luke faces Vader in Cloud City - very different fighting techniques and mindsets. Vader is more “powerful” in each engagement but despite this every single time he gets beaten by his opponent’s emotional state rather than their ability to physically match him. On Mustafar he’s arrogant and showy and ultimately loses to Obi Wan’s calm and simple one-swipe move and on Cloud City he loses the confrontation with Luke because he misjudges his character - essentially putting him through what he himself was put through and expecting Luke to make the same choices he did, Luke chooses potential death instead. Even in Rogue One he doesn’t come out on top because the Rebels sacrifice their own lives to hand off the plans to the next person in line.

Every single time Vader has a fight in Star Wars he demonstrates a high degree of competence, skill and general Force strength but he never really actually “wins” any of them. To have a glossy lightsaber battle with Obi Wan where he ultimately bests him (albeit with Obi confusingly disappearing from Vader’s point of view) would betray that and create a contradiction that unbalances the philosophies of the story as I see it.

Apologies for posting an essay in your thread Ady, I just thought it was worth chipping in with my two penneth as nobody else seems to have brought it up.

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Hey guys merry Christmas. I’m trying to find this as an avchd or blu Ray compatible folders. Any ideas? Its all I need to complete my set I’m building. Thanks. And great work Adywan.

Edit. After looking around it seems there is not. Which is fine. But does anyone have the ability to point me towards a pal DVD 5 version. Thanks .

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Captain_Danielsan said:

Hey guys merry Christmas. I’m trying to find this as an avchd or blu Ray compatible folders. Any ideas? Its all I need to complete my set I’m building. Thanks. And great work Adywan.

Edit. After looking around it seems there is not. Which is fine. But does anyone have the ability to point me towards a pal DVD 5 version. Thanks .

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