The Last Jedi : a Fan Edit Ideas thread — Page 7

I had this in mind after seeing it the first time and paid attention to the dialogue the second time around. I think it can work. It means that Poe doesn’t actually have to stall him for very long, though.

But there’s two chunks of Hux’s dialogue that can be kept. First, he starts with a whole monologue about how the Republic is gone and they’ll soon crush the Resistance, then when he’s done is Poe’s first “comeback.” Hux falters for a moment, asks if Poe can hear him, then when it’s confirmed that he can, Poe goes back into another “The Resistance is at its end” bit, but is cut off by Poe.

My thought is to join the two iterations of his “destroying the Resistance” speech (they’re different enough that they could be made into one long speech without seeming repetitive), and when Poe cuts him off in the theatrical cut of the second one, have that be where the timer runs out and Poe launches at the Star Destroyer.

I don’t have the transcribed dialogue handy, so I might be wrong, but I think it can work.

darthrush said:

TavorX said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I actually have (in my humble opinion) a great and pretty simple idea for the Hux “hold” bit.

Hux starts his big speech, then partway through it we cut to Poe’s cockpit where we see the “loading bar.” When it finishes, Poe attacks.

You lose all the “tooling” stuff, but the humor is still there since Poe now cuts off Hux’s speechifying before he has a chance to finish. You can use the cut to the cockpit to stitch together the two separate longer bits of Hux’s speech, making it seem like he was never interrupted by the “I’ll hold” part.

Whaddaya think?

That may depend on what Hux was saying monologue-wise, which I can’t remember. What was he saying that wasn’t a reaction to Poe’s lines?
It could work though, but at the same time, it might be kinda weird to have Poe silent, but if the loading bar and Hux scene switching is fast enough, edit wise, it may work.

Yeah, that could work. I was originally planning to just cut from them seeing a single fighter approaching to Poe’s ship boosting and then beginning his attack. That would mean just no joke but would establish a consistent tone since you get a sacrifice a few minutes later.

That’d probably work too, but I wouldn’t cut the humor to the bone. Toning it down considerably is a necessity IMO, but you can’t get rid of it all. Comic relief is necessary for the film, the theatrical cut just takes it too far.

The problem with the scene was Hux going along with the joke, made him look stupid and started to look like a comedy skit.

One idea I have is to make Star-killer Base into a literal base, not the weapon. The weapon is a mobile weapon, IE either the dreadnaught, or Snoke’s ship from 8. The Gun of Star-Killer from seven becomes the dock for the mobile weapon which has the star killer laser on it.

The weapon can track you through light speed, but because the weapon on it is so huge, the base is its primary shield source and also the means to charge the now mobile superlaser.

Having the weapon that destroys the Hosnian System be a mobile weapon differentiates from the older films.

Collipso said:

The problem with the scene was Hux going along with the joke, made him look stupid and started to look like a comedy skit.

Right, which my proposed edit of the scene would remedy while still keeping a bit of humor.

I’m pretty sure TFA and TLJ (very select parts of it) can be edited into one movie…

BleuAsh said:

Here is an assessment of things I think should be paired down and or removed.

Yoda ghost lightning stroke. He is a ghost and should not affect the real world. Luke lights the tree and saves the books as shown later.

Supremacy mega ship destroyed because of a hyperspace ship. If this was possible why didn’t they just destroy the deathstar this way? This is the first thing that I said when the movie ended. I have no idea why the ship is blowing up in the last part though.

The boy at the end. Sorry cut it, end with the prior scene of falcon, chat, tuck in rose and see jedi books then cut to lightspeed and iris closes, cue music. If the boy becomes important in IX, move that scene to IX.

Move Rey Luke scene from end of VII to beginning of VIII.

Cut Luke tossing saber over shoulder. cut milking. Cut porgs. cut caretakers. cut snarky luke.

Because Snoke was a red herring with no reason to exist, could he be cut from VII and VIII altogether? It would take some tricky editing and may not even be possible. Otherwise, elude he was the clone of palpatine. I mean come on. No background. Nothing.

Snoke did not initiate the mind link between kylo and rey. Because kylo and rey, have the mind link after snoke is dead.

Remove the recalling of Luke trying to kill his nephew in his sleep. Perhaps, just cut the recollection out entirely. Because, there is no mention of snoke, knights of ren, or anything that we thought might be there. Instead we only see the conflicted Luke who quits over it. Not good.

Like everyone else. Edit the Mary Poppins Leia scene to be more believable. Perhaps start the scene of here flying while she is already really close. She did not fly out so far and need to travel back so far.

The guy with the red flower in his lapel, cut him. Yeah they are looking a code breaker not a specific one. The Canto Bight sequence is failure for them. They find a code breaker in prison. Cool.

Cut Maz Kanata. How do they learn to go to Canto Bight though?

Cut poker chip spitting from BB8.

Cut BB8 in the AT-ST.

Luke actually went to crait. He just got blasted by the lasers and died. It does not make sense to me that he died because he projected himself. Am I wrong about that?

Likely other changes too. Need to see it again.

If I were going to edit this is what you need to cut out

Cut the entire casino sequence
Keep the scene where Finn explains to Poe about what happened to him
Cut flying liea flying
Cut most of the porg stuff not all just some
Cut a lot of the humor down keep it a dark Star Wars movie like empire I don’t mind humor just when it doesn’t ruin the tone
Keep the Luke projection sequence it’s the best way for Luke to die there is no other way to kill one of the best characters in all of film
Just one change to the Luke projection sequence make Luke’s lightsaber green instead of blue throw the audience off
Keep snoke scenes
Keep Yoda’s scene
Keep Luke trying to kill Ben
keep Rey and kylo mind being linked why it’s great tension between the two characters just cut out some cringy lines like just put on a towel or something keep the scenes with a serious tone through out

Final the whole film should be focused on Rey kylo ren Luke snoke with the Poe side plot happening but beside that cut down 80 percent Of the Finn and rose plot just keep the scene with them in the ship they explain the entire plot in under 2 minutes then have the part where they go into the first orders main ship that is all you need with the rose and Finn plot show the scene where they meet have the scene where they explain what they want to do to Poe then have them disappear for 30 minutes of the flim then have them back in the flim when Rey gets captured just cut the final scene just end it with the falcon flying off and that would make the last Jedi a great flim

HerekittykittyX said:

Just one change to the Luke projection sequence make Luke’s lightsaber green instead of blue throw the audience off

You’d need to change the hilt to the ROTJ one too, then. I’m actually not against the idea if it can be done, but the hilt definitely needs to change if the blade color is changed.

ChainsawAsh said:

HerekittykittyX said:

Just one change to the Luke projection sequence make Luke’s lightsaber green instead of blue throw the audience off

You’d need to change the hilt to the ROTJ one too, then. I’m actually not against the idea if it can be done, but the hilt definitely needs to change if the blade color is changed.

The legend of Luke Skywalker, as he wanted to appear, used the blue lightsaber. The green one was only known by his Jedi apprentices, Kylo, Vader, Ben, Yoda and the Emperor.
At least that’s how I interpreted it. To that specific moment, the blue lightsaber had more weight.

I’m fine with either saber, though the blue one does kind of give up the “illusion” game as we just saw it destroyed minutes earlier.

I’d like to see it replaced with the ROTJ green saber just as an experiment to see if it works, though. But the practical on-set glow effect might make that impossible to pull off convincingly.

NeverarGreat said:

Collipso said:

ChainsawAsh said:

HerekittykittyX said:

Just one change to the Luke projection sequence make Luke’s lightsaber green instead of blue throw the audience off

You’d need to change the hilt to the ROTJ one too, then. I’m actually not against the idea if it can be done, but the hilt definitely needs to change if the blade color is changed.

The legend of Luke Skywalker, as he wanted to appear, used the blue lightsaber. The green one was only known by his Jedi apprentices, Kylo, Vader, Ben, Yoda and the Emperor.
At least that’s how I interpreted it. To that specific moment, the blue lightsaber had more weight.

That doesn’t make much sense, since the green one is presumably the one he used throughout the years after ROTJ, when his legend grew.

I could see him using the blue one because it is a reminder to Ren that he’s unworthy of his grandfather’s blade, but that’s about it.

I suppose it’s because the general public knows that lightsaber more as Luke’s lightsaber than the other one. That’s how I think it goes IRL and possibly in universe too for some reason. Actually lots of times when I go buy “Luke’s lightsaber” it’s the TESB and SW one with a green blade. Go figure.

But yeah, legend Luke’s saber would be green.

I honestly didn’t like any of the lightsaber effects or screen wipes in this movie. The lightsabers’ glow felt weak or “off” and the wipe transitions too fast.

The cores of the blades were a little off, but they felt more “solid” to me than usual in this one.

I do agree about the wipes, though.

NeverarGreat said:

ForceGhostRecon said:

I’m pretty sure TFA and TLJ (very select parts of it) can be edited into one movie…

Frink would be remiss if he didn’t edit the lightsaber toss as the last shot of The Force Awakens.

lol, a 1 minute clip of this is going to get a billion views on youtube

Haven’t had a chance to read the through the thread yet, but my basic list of changes would be:

• remove a lot of the ill fitting and tone affecting humour

• remove the Canto subplot, it was essentially pointless and massively bloated the film’s runtime needlessly. There were also far too many PT like elements that made me think George did some consulting work in this area of the film…

• replace ST puppet Yoda with OT puppet or even PT CGI Yoda. There was only about 2-3 seconds of that entire scene during the close up when he actually looked very close to how Yoda looks. The rest of it had me holding my head in the cinema as I thought back to the CGI Tarkin and Leia in Rogue One…

• edit Yoda’s dialogue to be dolled out slower, it feels very rushed in the movie and you expect him to be breathless at the end of it and this leads to it not really feeling like Yoda talking along with him looking very odd to begin with.

• remove most of the porg footage. I don’t mind seeing them as local wildlife but they very quickly get annoyingly distracting to the main plot and again feel like an echo of the PT resurfacing in TLJ.

• add some subtle “space dust” into the chase scenes to give a better sense of movement. Currently it feels like they’re moving at the speed of tugboats to almost not moving at all with no nearby point of reference to judge it against. The fact they are matched for speed is fine with the gap staying the same but these ships should be capable of some significant speeds in regards to the space travel they are required to do even if just in orbital manouvures, some indication of movement (in respect to their size) through space during the chase scene would be appreciated.

• depending on how they handle Carrie’s death in IX, maybe have Leia actually die after the bridge blowout rather than turning “super woman”. I feel this was a lost opportunity and Rian Johnson only didn’t do it due to it being the obvious expectation with him doing the exact opposite to all such sitations in this movie as a big “fk you” to JJ and the audience. Also I know it’s SW but there still needs to be some consistency in regards to the threat of space otherwise the series may as well regress into pure fantasy rather than sci-fi if there are no visible affects from exposure to the vacuum of space for that long and the fact no airlock was required to bring her back on board. You do of course lose the later Luke and Leia scene but I’d be happy for that to go as well since it is just some fan service and Leia actually giving up on her son altogether without any attempt to ask Luke if it’s even remotely possible to try and save him before doing what is necessary.

• redo a lot of the accompanying music to many scenes. Instead of naturally accompanying the story as it unfolds with the necessary themes and cresendos built in at the right places, it feels various theme snipets are simply inserted suddenly and loudly into scenes to make it obvious what the movie is try to point out and lead your hand to. I had issues initially with TFA due to how muted the soundtrack was but this is the first SW movie where I feel John Williams has let the movie down, or at least whoever edited his score into the movie.

• replace some of the different wipes that feel forced rather than natural SW wipes.

That will do me for now but I’m not actually sure in the end whether this film can be saved by a fan edit. I feel an edit could drastically improve the film in many ways but many of the issues I have with it are ingrained to the story and I don’t think any amount of editing and rearranging will fix them. And that’s saying something as even the PT’s can become somewhat enjoyable with the right fan edit where I’m not sure if that is possible with TLJ.

.Val

I don’t understand why people hate the new Yoda I am so glad they used a puppet instead of cgi Yoda