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Hmm. I don’t remember the movies touching on that.
As with basically every interesting idea in the PT, they should have, but they didn’t.
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Hmm. I don’t remember the movies touching on that.
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In both the new canon EU and the old legends EU, they’d had their HQ on a city planet for as long as they had an HQ, so it being that the Jedi are out of touch in the prequels can’t be true.
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Irregardless of if he was removed I would like to at least hear Yoda’s dialogue so he isn’t jumbling up his words like he did when he was pretending to be a goofy swamp-dweller.
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Irregardless of if he was removed I would like to at least hear Yoda’s dialogue so he isn’t jumbling up his words like he did when he was pretending to be a goofy swamp-dweller.
He jumbles his words after he drops the crazy act - it’s just how he speaks. It would feel really weird for him to be speaking normally IMO, even in a place where the whole planet is one big city.
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He doesn’t speak “jumbled” just for the lols, he does it only sometimes, and only when saying important things.
It’s “Forever will it dominate your destiny” because that’s an important line.
Yoda isn’t some idiot who doesn’t know how to speak, he’s employing a feature of the English language where you put the object first to make your statement sound important. For example, “___ does not a ___ make”.
There’s a surprising amount of OT-lines that aren’t “jumbled” for this reason.
But then in the prequels, we have “Around the survivors, a perimeter create!” and “Not if anything to say about it, I have!” The only time it’s justified is “The shadow of greed, it is.” during his talk with Anakin in RotS.
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Irregardless of if he was removed I would like to at least hear Yoda’s dialogue so he isn’t jumbling up his words like he did when he was pretending to be a goofy swamp-dweller.
He jumbles his words after he drops the crazy act - it’s just how he speaks. It would feel really weird for him to be speaking normally IMO, even in a place where the whole planet is one big city.
He drops the act and drops the speach mode. He only resumes it in Jedi when he is making the joke about looking good for his age.
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It might be interesting if when pushed to answer for the invasion in Episode 1 the Federation secede from the Republic on the spot. This being the beginning of the Separatist Alliance when other systems opt to join them.
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^That is an interesting idea. The whole VOTE NOW senate scene could be the various systems picking their side perhaps (instead of the vote of no confidence). It could be reminiscent of Shakespeare’s Henry VI with the rose picking.
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ESB and ROTJ Yoda, the slight rearrangement of words was a quirk, and it was subtle enough to not seem forced.
Prequel Yoda is the product of 20(at the time) years of fans speaking backwards, so George thought that was the only way to write Yoda. It’s also possible Frank Oz was equally as guilty, but I doubt it. “Frank…talk backwards, you must. Notice it, fans will.”
It’s basically the caricature becoming reality.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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That actually seems like an Adywan thing. Crossing my fingers.
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It now seems like Ady isn’t going to attempt the prequels. I hope someone else pulls them apart and reconstructs them with that same level of attention to detail because as much as just editing alone has improved them. These are the first three episodes. Something I waited form 1983 to 1999 to experience and there is only so much that remixing can do to rectify the disappointment. It would take something of an Adywan scale to fix them. It would be a shame if threads like these went to waste.
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I hear you, Bingowings, but I can’t help but feel supportive of his decision. Even if he gets through ROTJ:R and ANH:R HD quicker than he did ESB:R, it still will take a great deal of time to ever get through the prequels. There is so much wrong with them on so many levels. I feel it would require someone starting with the prequels who hasn’t already invested so much time in the OT. Aalenfae seemed to have a promising PT, and I believe he said he even finished his series once, but he also lost his work and has since disappeared. His talent and appreciation of the prequels showed a lot of potential.
In the end, though, I can’t help but feel like we need to work with some of the spinoffs. Perhaps the Obi-wan movie could be an episode in a fan-edited PT. Maybe R1 would serve as a new Ep. III. Perhaps something else will come up that could also fit in there. And while there is obviously a visual disconnect, I’ve never been opposed to editing one or two TCW movies to be part of a new PT. We’ll never get the PT we wanted, but the closest we could get will probably never come while working with the existing Eps. I-III.
Not sure if this is helpful for you, but it gives me solace/hope for a future PT I can call my own personal canon.
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As Ender said, I feel that waiting to see what the various alternative Disney prequels deliver would be prudent. For instance if a new Kenobi Prequel is in the works, then that, as well as R1, could serve as material for EpIII etc.
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What’s weird is that despite all of the constant bashing of the PT I always see on sites like this, the critical ratings towards them have actually been mostly mixed to positive. If they really were that bad, then they wouldn’t have a 6.5, 6.6 and 7.6 rating on IMDb.
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What’s weird is that despite all of the constant bashing of the PT I always see on sites like this, the critical ratings towards them have actually been mostly mixed to positive. If they really were that bad, then they wouldn’t have a 6.5, 6.6 and 7.6 rating on IMDb.
I expect that most people think that Star Wars is lightsabers and special effects, which the Prequels did have. Also, most people tended to view the prequels more favorably in the theater on first viewing (when the effects were better integrated on actual film), and that’s probably where the bulk of the good ratings originate.
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What’s weird is that despite all of the constant bashing of the PT I always see on sites like this, the critical ratings towards them have actually been mostly mixed to positive. If they really were that bad, then they wouldn’t have a 6.5, 6.6 and 7.6 rating on IMDb.
I expect that most people think that Star Wars is lightsabers and special effects, which the Prequels did have. Also, most people tended to view the prequels more favorably in the theater on first viewing (when the effects were better integrated on actual film), and that’s probably where the bulk of the good ratings originate.
But how could they have stayed in that range after a whole 12 to 18 years?
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After more than a decade, who’s seeing these films again except for children who’ve watched Clone Wars and Rebels? Again, they have the lightsabers and special effects, and when watching them in numerical order the Prequels ruin the originals to such a degree, and the ‘originals’ are available in such poor quality, that the quality difference between the two trilogies isn’t that great.
So in summary, you have the initial inflated reviews from people who saw them before the effects became dated and before the story was revealed for the empty exercise it was. Then the bulk of the reviews are from people who are actually nostalgic for the prequels since they saw them as children in conjunction with a cartoon that apparently did the main character justice.
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After more than a decade, who’s seeing these films again except for children who’ve watched Clone Wars and Rebels? Again, they have the lightsabers and special effects, and when watching them in numerical order the Prequels ruin the originals to such a degree, and the ‘originals’ are available in such poor quality, that the quality difference between the two trilogies isn’t that great.
So in summary, you have the initial inflated reviews from people who saw them before the effects became dated and before the story was revealed for the empty exercise it was. Then the bulk of the reviews are from people who are actually nostalgic for the prequels since they saw them as children in conjunction with a cartoon that apparently did the main character justice.
Or maybe the ratings are that way simply because there are plenty of people out there who actually LIKE the Prequels.
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I mean sure. I had a teacher in college who was probably in her 50’s and had just seen 1-6 in numerical order. She said she liked Episode 1 more than the others while not caring much for the rest, but she taught Mythology so perhaps she saw the brilliance of the Ring Theory. Such people exist. I just doubt that they make up the majority of the positive ratings.
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IMDb – where ballot stuffing is commonplace.
Fuck IMDb ratings.
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What’s weird is that despite all of the constant bashing of the PT I always see on sites like this, the critical ratings towards them have actually been mostly mixed to positive. If they really were that bad, then they wouldn’t have a 6.5, 6.6 and 7.6 rating on IMDb.
Where’d this come from?
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What’s weird is that despite all of the constant bashing of the PT I always see on sites like this, the critical ratings towards them have actually been mostly mixed to positive. If they really were that bad, then they wouldn’t have a 6.5, 6.6 and 7.6 rating on IMDb.
Where’d this come from?
Prequel apologism.
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