Mark Hamill just tweeted this.
The TLJ marketing campaign really is committing to the whole red thing. (I wonder if that’s just Lucasfilm/Disney or if Johnson had some input on it.)
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.
They’re nailing the ‘Star Wars yet cute’ look.
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
The synopsis for The Last Jedi is as follows:
“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past. Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”
I love it. Mysteries, adventure, revelations… could really be great. Could.
Anyone else think it’s about time that we replace the pinned “Episode VII spoilers thread” with this one?
I think only Jay can pin threads currently.
Where were you in '77?
Luke and Rey both holding Anakin’s saber
Luke and Rey both holding Anakin’s saber
Perhaps Luke’s green saber is part of an important plot point later in the film. Like, maybe Kylo took it when his knights torched Luke’s academy or something. Gotta be a reason.
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
I hope Maz shows up with the saber Obi Wan lost in The Phantom Menace just to irritate people.
Although they’ll most likely CG this creature if it ever has to run (or "trot? Whatever you call it.) I’m glad to see just how much practical Johnson seems to be going for with these creatures.
I also really like Hux’ nazi-limousine. Seems very fitting.
I’m actually really exited to see Canto Bight in TLJ. It’s one of those types of settings that really fit the SW universe’s WWII inspiration, but which has never been depicted before. Unless you count the EU of course.
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.
Oh no. Rehash alert! 😉
I thought the same thing at that shot. Cue internet meltdown!
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
It reminds me of the batmobile from the animated series.
Oh no. Rehash alert! 😉
You’d think by now, the First Order would have facial recognition software with known traitors in it’s database. 😉
Where were you in '77?
Doesn’t really prove much, but I worth mentioning;
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.
The biggest plot twist in last jedi
The force ghosts are not real…but are all a deception from snoke.
All this time, he had been using his great powers to manipulate yoda and obi wan to think that they would come back after death…falsely believing that they can contact luke.
They were deceived and they were only able to observe the events but not interfere(meaning they couldn’t warn luke about anything).
Snoke was there this whole time from the death star to Hoth to dagobah to even the emotional ghost scene at the end of return of the jedi. He was using his powers to deceive luke and the audience into thinking he was talking and looking at his dead loved ones.
That is why obi wanted luke to kill vader, to corrupt luke to turn into snoke’s high priest…a position he later gave to kylo ren. What is snoke that he is powerful enough to do this? Snoke is a WHILL…whills are mentioned several times in rogue one.
Whills are the star wars equivalent to angel (or even a minor god) immortal beings connected to the force and are essentially godlike. He was the best whill and the other Whills grew very jealous of him. He all his life yearned to leave his realm to explore and influence the larger galaxy.
One day the snoke was prideful and belittled his friends for their jealousy which would without a doubt have caused the other Whills to be angry and pissed. one day he was betrayed and thrown out of his home by jealous whills who wanted him gone. And snoke was emotionally devastated, but instead of forgiving his spiritual brothers he became enraged and went to the jedi.
Where he created the sith, leading to the rise of the sith empire. The immense destruction the sith wars cost gave snoke more and more power(using the dark side to regain his power). He was soon strong enough to return to his realm and singlehandily killed all the whills for betraying him. He was cast out again by the bendu(a elder entity who is a associate of the whills if not one of them).
Now what does this all have to do with luke? Because snoke was casted down at the time that the sith empire fell…leading to the rule of 2.
Slowly he wanted to turn the galaxy into a theocracy…the more people who worship his ideals the more powerful he became.
Of course we see star wars play out. As the sith were manipulating the republic, snoke was manipulating qui-gon, yoda and finally obi wan into his false doctrine of immortality after death. And that voice that we hear In new hope is not obi wan…but snoke’s. Who was guiding luke so that he can manipulate events to his liking. Luke was meant to be his crowning jewl. His high priest for a dark side religion that will make him powerful enough to “improve” the galaxy. He doesn’t want to rule the galaxy but turn it into a paradise. He wants to make sure no one suffers. But Snoke is like a god…he needs worship to get stronger. Kylo ren is not an apprentice but a high priest of a new religion meant to worship and empower him. This whole time, luke was deceived.
Force ghosts were never real and snoke is basically space satan…deceiving us all
That is why luke is angry and is saying that the jedi are bullshit…because he has no one to confide in. The jedi were just pawns to a game that snoke played.
Thoughts?
The biggest plot twist in last jedi
The force ghosts are not real…but are all a deception from snoke.
All this time, he had been using his great powers to manipulate yoda and obi wan to think that they would come back after death…falsely believing that they can contact luke.
They were deceived and they were only able to observe the events but not interfere(meaning they couldn’t warn luke about anything).
Snoke was there this whole time from the death star to Hoth to dagobah to even the emotional ghost scene at the end of return of the jedi. He was using his powers to deceive luke and the audience into thinking he was talking and looking at his dead loved ones.
That is why obi wanted luke to kill vader, to corrupt luke to turn into snoke’s high priest…a position he later gave to kylo ren. What is snoke that he is powerful enough to do this? Snoke is a WHILL…whills are mentioned several times in rogue one.
Whills are the star wars equivalent to angel (or even a minor god) immortal beings connected to the force and are essentially godlike. He was the best whill and the other Whills grew very jealous of him. He all his life yearned to leave his realm to explore and influence the larger galaxy.
One day the snoke was prideful and belittled his friends for their jealousy which would without a doubt have caused the other Whills to be angry and pissed. one day he was betrayed and thrown out of his home by jealous whills who wanted him gone. And snoke was emotionally devastated, but instead of forgiving his spiritual brothers he became enraged and went to the jedi.
Where he created the sith, leading to the rise of the sith empire. The immense destruction the sith wars cost gave snoke more and more power(using the dark side to regain his power). He was soon strong enough to return to his realm and singlehandily killed all the whills for betraying him. He was cast out again by the bendu(a elder entity who is a associate of the whills if not one of them).
Now what does this all have to do with luke? Because snoke was casted down at the time that the sith empire fell…leading to the rule of 2.
Slowly he wanted to turn the galaxy into a theocracy…the more people who worship his ideals the more powerful he became.
Of course we see star wars play out. As the sith were manipulating the republic, snoke was manipulating qui-gon, yoda and finally obi wan into his false doctrine of immortality after death. And that voice that we hear In new hope is not obi wan…but snoke’s. Who was guiding luke so that he can manipulate events to his liking. Luke was meant to be his crowning jewl. His high priest for a dark side religion that will make him powerful enough to “improve” the galaxy. He doesn’t want to rule the galaxy but turn it into a paradise. He wants to make sure no one suffers. But Snoke is like a god…he needs worship to get stronger. Kylo ren is not an apprentice but a high priest of a new religion meant to worship and empower him. This whole time, luke was deceived.
Force ghosts were never real and snoke is basically space satan…deceiving us all
That is why luke is angry and is saying that the jedi are bullshit…because he has no one to confide in. The jedi were just pawns to a game that snoke played.
Thoughts?
Not enough people read the EU.
Every single character being manipulated for decades by some super powerful evil guy was already done in the prequels. And it was stupid.
Turning the whole saga upside down like that would just diminish it. The events of the earlier movies would lose their importance if everything was staged by Snoke. The force ghost of Obi-Wan gave true guidance to Luke, retconning him like that nullifies his teachings. In the context of the whole saga, Obi-Wan and Yoda are already complete idiots for not figuring out that Palpatine was behind it all, now they were also tricked by Snoke, too?
And then, is this plan really the best way for Snoke to rise to power? Like, is there no easier way than manipulating someone to fight against your cult in order to convert them to your cult? Like, why would he guide Luke to kill the Emperor, if the Emperor was the most powerful Sith and the Sith were created by Snoke specifically for his revenge plan? Wouldn’t it be easier to support the Emperor and Vader, who are already converted, instead of Luke, who might get converted, but if there’s a small chance that he doesn’t get converted, it would set the big plan back by decades?
JEDIT: Also, having a plot twist would be a total rehash and ruin Star Wars forever.
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Every single character being manipulated for decades by some super powerful evil guy was already done in the prequels. And it was stupid.
Turning the whole saga upside down like that would just diminish it. The events of the earlier movies would lose their importance if everything was staged by Snoke. The force ghost of Obi-Wan gave true guidance to Luke, retconning him like that nullifies his teachings. In the context of the whole saga, Obi-Wan and Yoda are already complete idiots for not figuring out that Palpatine was behind it all, now they were also tricked by Snoke, too?
And then, is this plan really the best way for Snoke to rise to power? Like, is there no easier way than manipulating someone to fight against your cult in order to convert them to your cult? Like, why would he guide Luke to kill the Emperor, if the Emperor was the most powerful Sith and the Sith were created by Snoke specifically for his revenge plan? Wouldn’t it be easier to support the Emperor and Vader, who are already converted, instead of Luke, who might get converted, but if there’s a small chance that he doesn’t get converted, it would set the big plan back by decades?
JEDIT: Also, having a plot twist would be a total rehash and ruin Star Wars forever.
Better than palpatine 2.0
Every single character being manipulated for decades by some super powerful evil guy was already done in the prequels. And it was stupid.
Turning the whole saga upside down like that would just diminish it. The events of the earlier movies would lose their importance if everything was staged by Snoke. The force ghost of Obi-Wan gave true guidance to Luke, retconning him like that nullifies his teachings. In the context of the whole saga, Obi-Wan and Yoda are already complete idiots for not figuring out that Palpatine was behind it all, now they were also tricked by Snoke, too?
And then, is this plan really the best way for Snoke to rise to power? Like, is there no easier way than manipulating someone to fight against your cult in order to convert them to your cult? Like, why would he guide Luke to kill the Emperor, if the Emperor was the most powerful Sith and the Sith were created by Snoke specifically for his revenge plan? Wouldn’t it be easier to support the Emperor and Vader, who are already converted, instead of Luke, who might get converted, but if there’s a small chance that he doesn’t get converted, it would set the big plan back by decades?
JEDIT: Also, having a plot twist would be a total rehash and ruin Star Wars forever.
The rule of 2 is not lIke the old sith empire. The rule of 2 was less theocratic and more governed by government manipulation. The ancient sith empire built shrines, temples, and sacrificed jedi to him(this is all canon). Kylo ren looks like a freaking templar. revan can actually be tied to snoke. Maybe the threat in the unknown regions was a weakened snoke bidding his time. Snoke is immortal and is in no hurry
Although the whills theory aspect should be a little fixed (maybe snoke was cast out and killed his buddies during the events of the Phantom menace…maybe he never created the sith but merely fed off their power to become better than the other Whills to kill them)
Either way force ghost not being real provides strong context for several loose ends of TFA
Why isn’t anakin doing anything to stop kylo
Because he is in the netherworld stuck watching if not in complete oblivion(unlikely)
If luke was powerful…why was he a coward?
Because he realized that his faith was a lie…and that he was simply a pawn. He has no one to confide in now in these dark times.
Why did kylo join the dark side
Because of 2 reasons…either he wanted immortality(or wants snoke to bring back someone he loved), or snoke used his fake force ghost powers on him. Maybe kylo ren sees a vision of paradise in the galaxy and wants snoke to bring it. Maybe snoke isn’t a true bad guy. Maybe he truly believes that with enough power he can bring a golden age. He can heal wounds, it is just a matter of using the force to manipulate cells. He can extend the life of life forms indefinitely as well as bring them to life if their body is in good enough condition.
Not my strongest plot…but certainly one with potential
Every single character being manipulated for decades by some super powerful evil guy was already done in the prequels. And it was stupid.
Turning the whole saga upside down like that would just diminish it. The events of the earlier movies would lose their importance if everything was staged by Snoke. The force ghost of Obi-Wan gave true guidance to Luke, retconning him like that nullifies his teachings. In the context of the whole saga, Obi-Wan and Yoda are already complete idiots for not figuring out that Palpatine was behind it all, now they were also tricked by Snoke, too?
And then, is this plan really the best way for Snoke to rise to power? Like, is there no easier way than manipulating someone to fight against your cult in order to convert them to your cult? Like, why would he guide Luke to kill the Emperor, if the Emperor was the most powerful Sith and the Sith were created by Snoke specifically for his revenge plan? Wouldn’t it be easier to support the Emperor and Vader, who are already converted, instead of Luke, who might get converted, but if there’s a small chance that he doesn’t get converted, it would set the big plan back by decades?
JEDIT: Also, having a plot twist would be a total rehash and ruin Star Wars forever.
Better than palpatine 2.0
It is Palpatine 2.0, manipulating literally everyone around him in the most convoluted way.
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Although the whills theory aspect should be a little fixed (maybe snoke was cast out and killed his buddies during the events of the Phantom menace…maybe he never created the sith but merely fed off their power to become better than the other Whills to kill them)
Either way force ghost not being real provides strong context for several loose ends of TFA
Why isn’t anakin doing anything to stop kylo
Because he is in the netherworld stuck watching if not in complete oblivion(unlikely)
If luke was powerful…why was he a coward?
Because he realized that his faith was a lie…and that he was simply a pawn. He has no one to confide in now in these dark times.
Why did kylo join the dark side
Because of 2 reasons…either he wanted immortality(or wants snoke to bring back someone he loved), or snoke used his fake force ghost powers on him. Maybe kylo ren sees a vision of paradise in the galaxy and wants snoke to bring it. Maybe snoke isn’t a true bad guy. Maybe he truly believes that with enough power he can bring a golden age. He can heal wounds, it is just a matter of using the force to manipulate cells. He can extend the life of life forms indefinitely as well as bring them to life if their body is in good enough condition.
Not my strongest plot…but certainly one with potential
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The biggest plot twist in last jedi
The force ghosts are not real…but are all a deception from snoke.
All this time, he had been using his great powers to manipulate yoda and obi wan to think that they would come back after death…falsely believing that they can contact luke.
They were deceived and they were only able to observe the events but not interfere(meaning they couldn’t warn luke about anything).
Snoke was there this whole time from the death star to Hoth to dagobah to even the emotional ghost scene at the end of return of the jedi. He was using his powers to deceive luke and the audience into thinking he was talking and looking at his dead loved ones.
That is why obi wanted luke to kill vader, to corrupt luke to turn into snoke’s high priest…a position he later gave to kylo ren. What is snoke that he is powerful enough to do this? Snoke is a WHILL…whills are mentioned several times in rogue one.
Whills are the star wars equivalent to angel (or even a minor god) immortal beings connected to the force and are essentially godlike. He was the best whill and the other Whills grew very jealous of him. He all his life yearned to leave his realm to explore and influence the larger galaxy.
One day the snoke was prideful and belittled his friends for their jealousy which would without a doubt have caused the other Whills to be angry and pissed. one day he was betrayed and thrown out of his home by jealous whills who wanted him gone. And snoke was emotionally devastated, but instead of forgiving his spiritual brothers he became enraged and went to the jedi.
Where he created the sith, leading to the rise of the sith empire. The immense destruction the sith wars cost gave snoke more and more power(using the dark side to regain his power). He was soon strong enough to return to his realm and singlehandily killed all the whills for betraying him. He was cast out again by the bendu(a elder entity who is a associate of the whills if not one of them).
Now what does this all have to do with luke? Because snoke was casted down at the time that the sith empire fell…leading to the rule of 2.
Slowly he wanted to turn the galaxy into a theocracy…the more people who worship his ideals the more powerful he became.
Of course we see star wars play out. As the sith were manipulating the republic, snoke was manipulating qui-gon, yoda and finally obi wan into his false doctrine of immortality after death. And that voice that we hear In new hope is not obi wan…but snoke’s. Who was guiding luke so that he can manipulate events to his liking. Luke was meant to be his crowning jewl. His high priest for a dark side religion that will make him powerful enough to “improve” the galaxy. He doesn’t want to rule the galaxy but turn it into a paradise. He wants to make sure no one suffers. But Snoke is like a god…he needs worship to get stronger. Kylo ren is not an apprentice but a high priest of a new religion meant to worship and empower him. This whole time, luke was deceived.
Force ghosts were never real and snoke is basically space satan…deceiving us all
That is why luke is angry and is saying that the jedi are bullshit…because he has no one to confide in. The jedi were just pawns to a game that snoke played.
Thoughts?
Come on man, if you’re gonna break the forum rule, at least use the gif.
Although the whills theory aspect should be a little fixed (maybe snoke was cast out and killed his buddies during the events of the Phantom menace…maybe he never created the sith but merely fed off their power to become better than the other Whills to kill them)
Either way force ghost not being real provides strong context for several loose ends of TFA
Why isn’t anakin doing anything to stop kylo
Because he is in the netherworld stuck watching if not in complete oblivion(unlikely)
If luke was powerful…why was he a coward?
Because he realized that his faith was a lie…and that he was simply a pawn. He has no one to confide in now in these dark times.
Why did kylo join the dark side
Because of 2 reasons…either he wanted immortality(or wants snoke to bring back someone he loved), or snoke used his fake force ghost powers on him. Maybe kylo ren sees a vision of paradise in the galaxy and wants snoke to bring it. Maybe snoke isn’t a true bad guy. Maybe he truly believes that with enough power he can bring a golden age. He can heal wounds, it is just a matter of using the force to manipulate cells. He can extend the life of life forms indefinitely as well as bring them to life if their body is in good enough condition.
Not my strongest plot…but certainly one with potential
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How about you fuck off. How is that for a reply asshole?
