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Already accidentally read this somewhere else, but this might be better fit for an Ep VIII spoiler thread.

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DominicCobb said:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/late-carrie-fisher-final-star-wars-movie-article-1.3030154

Could be problematic considering we don’t know the extent of Leia’s involvement in VIII. If they cut out some of her performance and place it in IX we could end up seeing her for a few minutes not to mention the story problems that could arise if this isn’t done in a sufficient manner. This whole ordeal is making me nervous.

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Well, repurposing footage from 7/8 was one of the prevailing theories for how they would handle this, and Disney only technically said they wouldn’t use cgi (a statement no doubt brought on by Rogue One having just been released the week before Carrie’s death).

Trevorrow said he wants to shoot IX entirely in 65mm, just as he did with parts of Jurassic World. I wonder if he’ll go through with it now that footage shot in a different format has to match with the rest of the movie.

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Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/late-carrie-fisher-final-star-wars-movie-article-1.3030154

Could be problematic considering we don’t know the extent of Leia’s involvement in VIII. If they cut out some of her performance and place it in IX we could end up seeing her for a few minutes not to mention the story problems that could arise if this isn’t done in a sufficient manner. This whole ordeal is making me nervous.

Same. I would have greatly preferred to have her full role fleshed out in 8 and then recast her for 9 and not alter the script at all. Keeping the story consistent is what is the best course of action in my books.

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darthrush said:

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/late-carrie-fisher-final-star-wars-movie-article-1.3030154

Could be problematic considering we don’t know the extent of Leia’s involvement in VIII. If they cut out some of her performance and place it in IX we could end up seeing her for a few minutes not to mention the story problems that could arise if this isn’t done in a sufficient manner. This whole ordeal is making me nervous.

Same. I would have greatly preferred to have her full role fleshed out in 8 and then recast her for 9 and not alter the script at all. Keeping the story consistent is what is the best course of action in my books.

But what actresses could fill that role that look like Carrie? I don’t they exist lol

The best way to deal with this is of course putting out some comic or novel that has her dying in it. I think it would be better than just addressing her death with a couple lines of throw away dialogue.

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darthrush said:

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/late-carrie-fisher-final-star-wars-movie-article-1.3030154

Could be problematic considering we don’t know the extent of Leia’s involvement in VIII. If they cut out some of her performance and place it in IX we could end up seeing her for a few minutes not to mention the story problems that could arise if this isn’t done in a sufficient manner. This whole ordeal is making me nervous.

Same. I would have greatly preferred to have her full role fleshed out in 8 and then recast her for 9 and not alter the script at all. Keeping the story consistent is what is the best course of action in my books.

Recasting was never, ever going to happen. From what I remember hearing, there was a surprisingly large contingent in favor of having Meryl Streep play Leia in IX. But there were probably just as many people - if not way more - who would’ve hated that idea.

If they can make this work, it’s the best possible outcome. Carrie gets to stay in the saga right up to the very end with minimal re-writing/re-editing and we don’t have to see either extreme of her being written out of the movie entirely or brought back via cgi.

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Lord Haseo said:

darthrush said:

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/late-carrie-fisher-final-star-wars-movie-article-1.3030154

Could be problematic considering we don’t know the extent of Leia’s involvement in VIII. If they cut out some of her performance and place it in IX we could end up seeing her for a few minutes not to mention the story problems that could arise if this isn’t done in a sufficient manner. This whole ordeal is making me nervous.

Same. I would have greatly preferred to have her full role fleshed out in 8 and then recast her for 9 and not alter the script at all. Keeping the story consistent is what is the best course of action in my books.

But what actresses could fill that role that look like Carrie? I don’t they exist lol

The best way to deal with this is of course putting out some comic or novel that has her dying in it. I think it would be better than just addressing her death with a couple lines of throw away dialogue.

I get that it’s Star Wars and the setting/story (and the character of General Leia herself) would actually lend itself to this kind of an ending, but it would be considered in poor taste.

They’re going to wrap up the story as best they can, using whatever footage they can. It really wouldn’t surprise me if they end up using digital tools of some sort for certain shots. I feel like that’s an inevitability.

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Fang Zei said:

Lord Haseo said:

darthrush said:

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/late-carrie-fisher-final-star-wars-movie-article-1.3030154

Could be problematic considering we don’t know the extent of Leia’s involvement in VIII. If they cut out some of her performance and place it in IX we could end up seeing her for a few minutes not to mention the story problems that could arise if this isn’t done in a sufficient manner. This whole ordeal is making me nervous.

Same. I would have greatly preferred to have her full role fleshed out in 8 and then recast her for 9 and not alter the script at all. Keeping the story consistent is what is the best course of action in my books.

But what actresses could fill that role that look like Carrie? I don’t they exist lol

The best way to deal with this is of course putting out some comic or novel that has her dying in it. I think it would be better than just addressing her death with a couple lines of throw away dialogue.

I get that it’s Star Wars and the setting/story (and the character of General Leia herself) would actually lend itself to this kind of an ending, but it would be considered in poor taste.

I don’t give a fuck about that as it makes sense story wise. People can take that emotional stuff somewhere else.

They’re going to wrap up the story as best they can, using whatever footage they can. It really wouldn’t surprise me if they end up using digital tools of some sort for certain shots. I feel like that’s an inevitability.

This is making me hope that at least one of the rumors surrounding Leia in VIII is true because if true wrapping up her story would be quite easy. Whatever they end up doing I just hope it’s in the best interest of the story and nothing else.

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Lord Haseo said:

The best way to deal with this is of course putting out some comic or novel that has her dying in it.

Uh, of course, it’s not.

And I think if a recast was ever going to work it would had to have been for TFA forward.

TV’s Frink said:

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Well it’s better than a recast as they hardly ever work; especially when you have an emotional connection with the actor/actress in question. Having the character die in a meaning way in universe will give a lot some amount of closure whereas artificially reviving her from the dead could lead to problems.

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Except most moviegoers don’t read the books. Killing a major character in print between film instalments would be jarring for most viewers.

TV’s Frink said:

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And you don’t think having someone new playing Leia would throw people off? A decent percentage of the same people wouldn’t know that Leia was recasted just like they wouldn’t know that she died in a story set between VIII and IX. Having Leia die ion a novel or comic would be good for the more casual fans (but not casual moviegoers) and folks like us. I could see a quite a few people who wouldn’t normally be into that shit picking up (or in the more realistic case pirating) that story to get that closure.

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The best way to handle it, IMO, is to have Leia’s role fade away naturally into the background due to all the other things going on. Then, have her show up again at the end of IX.
I really hope they don’t kill Leia. There’s no way to do that tastefully now. And it’s not like she needs to be at the forefront of the story.

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ray_afraid said:

The best way to handle it, IMO, is to have Leia’s role fade away naturally into the background due to all the other things going on. Then, have her show up again at the end of IX.
I really hope they don’t kill Leia. There’s no way to do that tastefully now. And it’s not like she needs to be at the forefront of the story.

Well, now that someone’s brought it up …

Episode VII was always supposed to focus on the new characters. By all accounts, our OT heroes had little more than cameos in Arndt’s draft before Abrams decided to give them a bigger role. He barely even got to Luke after touting TFA as the OT gang’s last hurrah. False advertising if ever there was any.

So yeah, it sucks that they won’t be able to seamlessly bring Leia’s part of the story to a close, but I have to imagine they had a contingency plan in place for a situation like this. At least Carrie still gets to stay in IX.

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With all due respect to her memory, I think Carrie would appreciate her character getting the end that fit the story. If in IX, Leia was supposed to be murdered or betrayed, I can’t see how she wouldn’t have had wanted that still.

But I don’t think this was ever the direction they were heading. I think Leia’s role was to bring back Kylo to the light, in a very conflicting and heartbreaking moment most certainly saved for EP IX.

I think Han was the sacrifice for EP 7. Luke the sacrifice for EP 8. And Leia the one to survive, bring balance, and restore the Jedi Order Luke never dared to try restore again.

I can imagine this scene in my head, in which Luke is dead and Rey defeated - Snoke believing all Jedi now to be extinct, with Rey and Kylo - having tried to overthrow Snoke - both laying wounded on the floor infront of him. And then, in a “what the fuck are you doing here?” reaction from Snoke as Leia suddenly walks into the room from out of nowhere, Leia suddenly wreaks mental force havoc on Snoke, killing him in the most brutal force usage scene we have ever seen on screen, crushing and slamming him from wall to wall until every bone is broken in his twisted, pale body, only for Leia to give the biggest one-liner ever: “I’m not afraid of the Dark Side, Lord Snoke - I relish it in the favor of my son”, crushing Snoke’s head right off with the very swift movement of the Force from her hands, leaving his wretched body more pale and lifeless than ever on the dusty floor.

Now that, would be the way to end Leia’s arc.

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Anjohan said:

With all due respect to her memory, I think Carrie would appreciate her character getting the end that fit the story.

I guess she might’ve, sure.

I think Leia’s role was to bring back Kylo to the light, in a very conflicting and heartbreaking moment most certainly saved for EP IX.

Ehhh…

I can imagine this scene in my head, in which Luke is dead and Rey defeated - Snoke believing all Jedi now to be extinct, with Rey and Kylo - having tried to overthrow Snoke - both laying wounded on the floor infront of him. And then, in a “what the fuck are you doing here?” reaction from Snoke as Leia suddenly walks into the room from out of nowhere, Leia suddenly wreaks mental force havoc on Snoke, killing him in the most brutal force usage scene we have ever seen on screen, crushing and slamming him from wall to wall until every bone is broken in his twisted, pale body, only for Leia to give the biggest one-liner ever: “I’m not afraid of the Dark Side, Lord Snoke - I relish it in the favor of my son”, crushing Snoke’s head right off with the very swift movement of the Force from her hands, leaving his wretched body more pale and lifeless than ever on the dusty floor.

  1. No.
  2. That’s not even a one-liner. It really doesn’t even make sense.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Anjohan said:

With all due respect to her memory, I think Carrie would appreciate her character getting the end that fit the story.

I guess she might’ve, sure.

I think Leia’s role was to bring back Kylo to the light, in a very conflicting and heartbreaking moment most certainly saved for EP IX.

Ehhh…

I can imagine this scene in my head, in which Luke is dead and Rey defeated - Snoke believing all Jedi now to be extinct, with Rey and Kylo - having tried to overthrow Snoke - both laying wounded on the floor infront of him. And then, in a “what the fuck are you doing here?” reaction from Snoke as Leia suddenly walks into the room from out of nowhere, Leia suddenly wreaks mental force havoc on Snoke, killing him in the most brutal force usage scene we have ever seen on screen, crushing and slamming him from wall to wall until every bone is broken in his twisted, pale body, only for Leia to give the biggest one-liner ever: “I’m not afraid of the Dark Side, Lord Snoke - I relish it in the favor of my son”, crushing Snoke’s head right off with the very swift movement of the Force from her hands, leaving his wretched body more pale and lifeless than ever on the dusty floor.

  1. No.
  2. That’s not even a one-liner. It really doesn’t even make sense.

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Anjohan said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Anjohan said:

With all due respect to her memory, I think Carrie would appreciate her character getting the end that fit the story.

I guess she might’ve, sure.

I think Leia’s role was to bring back Kylo to the light, in a very conflicting and heartbreaking moment most certainly saved for EP IX.

Ehhh…

I can imagine this scene in my head, in which Luke is dead and Rey defeated - Snoke believing all Jedi now to be extinct, with Rey and Kylo - having tried to overthrow Snoke - both laying wounded on the floor infront of him. And then, in a “what the fuck are you doing here?” reaction from Snoke as Leia suddenly walks into the room from out of nowhere, Leia suddenly wreaks mental force havoc on Snoke, killing him in the most brutal force usage scene we have ever seen on screen, crushing and slamming him from wall to wall until every bone is broken in his twisted, pale body, only for Leia to give the biggest one-liner ever: “I’m not afraid of the Dark Side, Lord Snoke - I relish it in the favor of my son”, crushing Snoke’s head right off with the very swift movement of the Force from her hands, leaving his wretched body more pale and lifeless than ever on the dusty floor.

  1. No.
  2. That’s not even a one-liner. It really doesn’t even make sense.

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Anjohan said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Anjohan said:

With all due respect to her memory, I think Carrie would appreciate her character getting the end that fit the story.

I guess she might’ve, sure.

I think Leia’s role was to bring back Kylo to the light, in a very conflicting and heartbreaking moment most certainly saved for EP IX.

Ehhh…

I can imagine this scene in my head, in which Luke is dead and Rey defeated - Snoke believing all Jedi now to be extinct, with Rey and Kylo - having tried to overthrow Snoke - both laying wounded on the floor infront of him. And then, in a “what the fuck are you doing here?” reaction from Snoke as Leia suddenly walks into the room from out of nowhere, Leia suddenly wreaks mental force havoc on Snoke, killing him in the most brutal force usage scene we have ever seen on screen, crushing and slamming him from wall to wall until every bone is broken in his twisted, pale body, only for Leia to give the biggest one-liner ever: “I’m not afraid of the Dark Side, Lord Snoke - I relish it in the favor of my son”, crushing Snoke’s head right off with the very swift movement of the Force from her hands, leaving his wretched body more pale and lifeless than ever on the dusty floor.

  1. No.
  2. That’s not even a one-liner. It really doesn’t even make sense.

I don’t give a shit what you think ❤️ From my point of view your behavior is evil! Lil’ Ani would flesh you with his exhaustion vents.

Okay, cool.

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Anjohan said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Anjohan said:

With all due respect to her memory, I think Carrie would appreciate her character getting the end that fit the story.

I guess she might’ve, sure.

I think Leia’s role was to bring back Kylo to the light, in a very conflicting and heartbreaking moment most certainly saved for EP IX.

Ehhh…

I can imagine this scene in my head, in which Luke is dead and Rey defeated - Snoke believing all Jedi now to be extinct, with Rey and Kylo - having tried to overthrow Snoke - both laying wounded on the floor infront of him. And then, in a “what the fuck are you doing here?” reaction from Snoke as Leia suddenly walks into the room from out of nowhere, Leia suddenly wreaks mental force havoc on Snoke, killing him in the most brutal force usage scene we have ever seen on screen, crushing and slamming him from wall to wall until every bone is broken in his twisted, pale body, only for Leia to give the biggest one-liner ever: “I’m not afraid of the Dark Side, Lord Snoke - I relish it in the favor of my son”, crushing Snoke’s head right off with the very swift movement of the Force from her hands, leaving his wretched body more pale and lifeless than ever on the dusty floor.

  1. No.
  2. That’s not even a one-liner. It really doesn’t even make sense.

I don’t give a shit what you think

If that were true you wouldn’t have wrote it.

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Anjohan said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Anjohan said:

With all due respect to her memory, I think Carrie would appreciate her character getting the end that fit the story.

I guess she might’ve, sure.

I think Leia’s role was to bring back Kylo to the light, in a very conflicting and heartbreaking moment most certainly saved for EP IX.

Ehhh…

I can imagine this scene in my head, in which Luke is dead and Rey defeated - Snoke believing all Jedi now to be extinct, with Rey and Kylo - having tried to overthrow Snoke - both laying wounded on the floor infront of him. And then, in a “what the fuck are you doing here?” reaction from Snoke as Leia suddenly walks into the room from out of nowhere, Leia suddenly wreaks mental force havoc on Snoke, killing him in the most brutal force usage scene we have ever seen on screen, crushing and slamming him from wall to wall until every bone is broken in his twisted, pale body, only for Leia to give the biggest one-liner ever: “I’m not afraid of the Dark Side, Lord Snoke - I relish it in the favor of my son”, crushing Snoke’s head right off with the very swift movement of the Force from her hands, leaving his wretched body more pale and lifeless than ever on the dusty floor.

  1. No.
  2. That’s not even a one-liner. It really doesn’t even make sense.

I don’t give a shit what you think ❤️ From my point of view your behavior is evil! Lil’ Ani would flesh you with his exhaustion vents.

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Poor Carrie, first off.

I remember reading a rumor that Leia’s gonna be in a coma or something in episode 8. If that’s true, that would be an easy way to deal with Carrie’s death. They should do something where Rey uses the force to go inside her head and rescue her. She finds her in her subconscious and tells her good news (Kylo repented or something), and Leia say’s she’s at peace and is willing to pass.

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