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Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 64

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Star Wars

The Empire Strikes Back

Return of the Jedi

Rogue One

Star Wars: The Force Awakens

The Blackened Mantle (2015 PT Rewrite/Fan edit)

Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

Star Wars Episode II: I Was Asleep for the Majority of its Runtime

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace

*(Superior renditions of the PT include: TBM, Hal’s Edits, L8twrtr’s Edits, Frink’s edits, Auralnauts’ Edits)

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TV’s Frink said:

I’m not even sure how that’s controversial. I’ve seen something in that rough order many times now.

I assumed ranking ROTJ as fifth, after both Disney movies, would incur the ire of some around here.

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ROTJ is objectively inferior to both Disney films. But I still love the way it’s paced, I think some of its music is the best of the OT (Luke & Leia, that burst of operatics when Luke unloads on Vader), and Ian Mcdiarmid’s presence is always sure to boost my personal score a few points. It’s the SW film I find myself coming back to the most (always theatrical, be it VHS/GOUT/Harmy). Just a compact, fun little send off to a great trilogy of films.

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All of this is subjective dude; you outta know that. Personally I don’t see how anyone could make the case that ROTJ is better than SW or ESB but hey, that’s their opinion. No one is really right in this situation even if you bring forth a stronger argument.

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Lord Haseo said:

All of this is subjective dude; you outta know that. Personally I don’t see how anyone could make the case that ROTJ is better than SW or ESB but hey, that’s their opinion. No one is really right in this situation even if you bring forth a stronger argument.

+1. There’s no such thing as “blah blah blah is an objectively better movie”. Scientific facts are objective. A piece of music, a painting or a film on the other hand is entirely subjective.

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1 ANH
2 ESB
3
4 TFA
5 R1
6 ROTJ

I am leaving the three spot open. perhaps someday something will fit in there.

4/5/6 are all very close, there are aspects of ROTJ that make me want to rank it higher, but if i go purely by my enjoyment factor, I think this is the order.

1 i can’t ever change. i won’t ever bump the movie that started this all out of first place, i just can’t do that.

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Lord Haseo said:

All of this is subjective dude; you outta know that. Personally I don’t see how anyone could make the case that ROTJ is better than SW or ESB but hey, that’s their opinion. No one is really right in this situation even if you bring forth a stronger argument.

Oh, no way in hell does it surpass the original two. I just consider it my third favorite. I’m of the conviction that it’s a worse made film than the two current Disney films, yet it’s overall more enjoyable.

It has bits of everything I love in the OT: the three principles, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Vader, Palpy, Space battles, etc. and I also just like that it’s the grand conclusion to everything.

It tightly compresses all the best parts of pre existing films in a feature length runtime, albeit using hackneyed writing and retreading of familiar ground at times, while still serving an important part in continuing the story. Wait…that sounds awfully familiar…

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darthrush said:

Lord Haseo said:

All of this is subjective dude; you outta know that. Personally I don’t see how anyone could make the case that ROTJ is better than SW or ESB but hey, that’s their opinion. No one is really right in this situation even if you bring forth a stronger argument.

+1. There’s no such thing as “blah blah blah is an objectively better movie”. Scientific facts are objective. A piece of music, a painting or a film on the other hand is entirely subjective.

Wait, let me get this straight. You’re claiming art is subjective – not objective – in essence suggesting that Imp’scum is so full of shit that an overflowing septic tank has nothing on him? Seriously?

Good.

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I’m sure there are some people who see Jedi as their favorite SW movie, even though it’s objectively the weakest in the OT.

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Here’s my ranking of the films (videos in the case of Eps 2 & 3) on a scale of inventive to safe:

On the Inventive Side:

1: Star Wars - A giant personal risk by Lucas, and an unparalleled combination of genres that launched a franchise.

2: The Phantom Menace - Jar Jar and a Leave It To Beaver Anakin Skywalker make this an arguably suicidal gamble for Lucas, in terms of credibility. Regardless of its success, it was remarkable.

3: Empire Strikes Back - A radical departure from the plot structure, tone, and focus of the first film that succeeds in being at least as good as the original.

4: Attack of the Clones - After the divisiveness of TPM, Lucas had every reason to retreat into what worked for the Original Trilogy, yet he made the first major motion picture to be shot entirely digitally. Also making a digital Yoda. That is some major chutzpah.

5: Rogue One - The first Star Wars film without a lightsaber duel, one that focuses almost entirely on normal people in the Star Wars universe. A war movie in a fantasy franchise is gutsy and breaks new ground.

On the Safe Side:

6: Return of the Jedi - The film that has been called on these forums the ‘contractual obligation album’, it is an attempt to end the saga in one movie rather than the planned 4. Another Death Star, a return to Tatooine and Dagobah, and filming in the redwood forest for bugetary reasons.

7: Revenge of the Sith - A continuation of the poor cinematic choices of AOTC, Revenge brings almost nothing new to the table, and ends in one of the most overly explanatory ways possible.

8: The Force Awakens - Our heroes crash land on Not-Tatooine, escape in the Millennium Falcon to Not-Dagobah, the Not-Empire fires a Not-Death Star at Not-Alderaan, then Han, Leia, Chewie, and C-3PO all go to Not-Yavin 4 to plan an attack against the Not-Death Star and Not-Luke fights Not-Vader.

This is only one metric for determining the quality of the films, but I think this is one of the main reasons that the 3rd film in a trilogy hardly ever reaches the level of the first.

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darthrush said:

DominicCobb said:

That’s pretty silly

I enjoy the Force Awakens but fully admit that it was a very safe movie in many aspects.

I think “very safe” is greatly exaggerating things (I can think of a million ways it could have been “safer,” not to mention the word could mean a number of things), but how “safe” a movie is has almost nothing to do with its quality. So it’s a silly ranking. Might as well rank based on another arbitrary metric like how long it took to write the script (in which case TPM wins with 5 years and AOTC loses because it never had a script).

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Star Wars
Empire
Force Awakens
Jedi
Rogue One
Everything else
(If you want to know, Phantom Menace > Holiday Special > AOTC = ROTS > Clone Wars; Have not seen the Ewok films but they’d probably be around the Holiday Special)

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Swazzy said:

ROTJ is objectively inferior to both Disney films.

Were you on illegal drugs when you wrote that? If not, you should be on the prescribed ones.

真実

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Swazzy said:

Alright fine, objectively inferior to TFA.

That is what I feared. Get the prescribed drugs asap.

真実

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imperialscum said:

Swazzy said:

Alright fine, objectively inferior to TFA.

That is what I feared. Get the prescribed drugs asap.

At least TFA doesn’t have robotic acting in it; but it doesn’t have the sentimental attachment (yet).

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After seeing Rogue One once (Rogue Once?):
ESB
SW
TFA
ROTJ
R1
TPM
ROTS
AOTC

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generalfrevious said:

imperialscum said:

Swazzy said:

Alright fine, objectively inferior to TFA.

That is what I feared. Get the prescribed drugs asap.

At least TFA doesn’t have robotic acting in it; but it doesn’t have the sentimental attachment (yet).

I will take ROTJ “robotic acting” over the embarrassing acting in TFA.

真実

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Rogue One has earned the #3 spot on my list, right between ANH and TFA. This movie is making me think about what it would take to remove TESB and ANH from my 1 and 2 spots. The nostalgia factor definitely plays a role.

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mapet318 said:

Rogue One has earned the #3 spot on my list, right between ANH and TFA. This movie is making me think about what it would take to remove TESB and ANH from my 1 and 2 spots. The nostalgia factor definitely plays a role.

I’ve been thinking about it also that will anything ever top SW and TESB but I can’t even think a scenario where that could happen.

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