Rogue One * Spoilers * Thread — Page 50

DominicCobb said:

Ronster said:

Ronster said:

I am Joshing but I’ll site the identity crisis now and It’s due to it being complicated but I hope they can handle it better somehow at the last moment as the film does look really good.

Dominic Cobb

Don’t forget to add the last part where I explained that I was “Joshing” that means joking around I am pretty calm and having a giggle. I’m not that serious about it.

I didn’t quote the last sentence because it didn’t make any sense (what identity crisis? what being complicated?) and it was unclear to me what if anything you were “Joshing” about. I assumed you meant about doing away with the end credits too but it seemed like the rest of your post was quite serious in its misguided criticism of a film no one has seen yet.

That’s ok I am really excited for this film, I have quite high hopes for it. I just don’t want for it to be Normal or ordinary in terms of Style I want it to retain at least something that makes it feel like traditional Star Wars.

The End credits comments I made, I will stand by we have all been trained that as soon as the text starts to roll it’s time to get out of the cinema. Although I am joking about again I think it would be really interesting to see in the cinema if the last shot was the first shot from Star Wars (episode IV) with the credits rolling over it. Even if nothing happened it would be interesting to see how many people would stick around in anticipation and how many people would just get up and leave oblivious and without any anticipation about it. Even if only to Separate Long Time Fan’s from new ones. It’s all just amusing fun.

The Identity crisis comment really relates to having heard that they spent ages discussing how they were going to deal with Anthology movies for 2 years and how the Anthology films should be handled. And it seems the answer in terms of retaining a stylistic Format similar to what Star Wars films have had in them up until now has been thrown out the window which was not at all concrete we knew the Crawl was probably going but not everything else.

So it really seems like a Star Wars Genre film won and the normal Star Wars rules are gone. This ones a war movie. Next one might be a detective story. Then a Romance. Then a western And finally a horror Star Wars film perhaps. So that looks like what the idea is and it’s become “tell this genre in the Star Wars universe”. And throw out the rule book.

The Plot and locations could be complicated and the Crawl obviously did not cut the mustard.

TV Spot - Trained to fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNx2VPG2foA

More alternative Takes this time Saw Gerrara plus a nice line from Krennick “It has started”

So I guess we are being shown some differences in the re-shoots with these alternate takes.

Definitely a little game being played nothing evil of course but a small effective disinformation campaign of what is what? Which take, what will be in the film and so on, Take everything with a pinch of salt.

I think production may not have wrapped totally just yet. Although production if it has not wrapped yet it will do next week. The reason being the music score being late and some sound effects are altering frequently in the trailers (Baze Gun) the music score being so late there could be minor tweaks and although the MPAA have issued a rating It has yet to be submitted to the BBFC.

The video running time is done and dusted I would imagine. Gareth Edwards stated hard for him to let go but the work is basically now done.

So the final edit will probably be sealed next week. In time for the premiere 10th December.

But I think they are asking us which ones we prefer…

If anything, I would say the recent TV spots have unsettled me slightly… Still excited, but going to go into this movie with medium expectations. Probably a good approach.

Lol.

Ronster said:

But I think they are asking us which ones we prefer…

There is an exactly zero percent chance of that. Online reactions are the last place they’ll be looking for feedback. We have almost no context for these takes and have no idea how they fit into the scene, the overall film, and these characterizations. The creatives in charge of the film and those at test screenings (to a lesser extent) are in a much better position to have an opinion. They’re not dumb enough to base their decision on line readings and such from uninformed fans.

darthrush said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YWNvdoRnNv8

This is beginning to feel less and less like a unique war movie.

Trailers, TV spots especially, can be very misleading.

Usually I find the most effective plan is to watch the movie and then decide how I felt about it.

TV’s Frink said:

Usually I find the most effective plan is to watch the movie and then decide how I felt about it.

Huh. That’s an interesting idea.

^For good or ill, this.

(I’m still gonna see Rogue One eventually, though.)

SilverWook said:

And if we end up with a situation where there are differences between the 70mm and DCP, we may have to stage an Ocean’s 11 style heist. 😉

Yeah that could happen, also I wonder if their will be an Asian cut of the film which is slightly different, it happens much more frequently today and many films do this to cater to Asian markets.

Kill Bill, Looper, 47 Ronin for instance…

There is also an interesting credit in this supposed last trailer, Trust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWNvdoRnNv8

Music by Michael Giacchino
Original Star Wars Music by John Williams

Now Michael Giacchino stated in his score that he used only 5% of John Williams Music and the other 95% was his own. I am guessing we will here the opening Star Wars theme but slightly different. Also I hope we get the Death Star cue too.

By the way, I finished Catalyst. I’ve got a few quick bullet points that relate directly to Rogue One for now, and if anyone has any questions I’m happy to answer. Obviously, spoiler alert.

-When the rumor about a digitally-recreated Tarkin being in the film came up I had serious doubts, but now I’m expecting it. The Tarkin/Krennic rivalry was a huge part of the book.

-Saw Gererra played a somewhat significant role toward the end. The first time he turned up in the trailers I assumed our intrepid heroes would be seeking him out to enlist him in the Rebellion based on his experience as an insurgent in the Clone Wars, but now that I know he’s got a personal relationship with the Ersos, I suspect he’ll be a sort of protector for Jyn.

-The Force sensitive Rogue One character that was hinted at in some interview or other is Lyra Erso, Jyn’s mother. She talks vaguely about being able to feel the Force, but she doesn’t have any practical Force skills or abilities. I expect her to die in the opening flashback, so this isn’t likely to be a major factor in the story. The rumor floating around that the hooded figure in the trailer is an Inquisitor that’s introduced in Catalyst is at least half bullshit, as no such character was in the book.

-The Erso family is hiding from the Empire by the end of the book. Throughout the story, Galen Erso didn’t know that his Kyber crystal research was being used for the Death Star superlaser because Krennic led him to believe he was working on a renewable energy project. Galen never actually finds out about the Death Star, but he and his family bail when they get suspicious. The flashback from the trailer is definitely Krennic finally finding them.

-A Dressellian smuggler is heavily involved with Krennic, the Erso family, and Tarkin, and I’m really hoping he turns up in the film because I’ve been a fan of the Dressellian species ever since I got the action figure of the one with the eyepatch when I was a kid.

-The Empire definitely exterminated the Geonosians to keep the Death Star secret. The book never actually stated it explicitly, but we saw in the Darth Vader comic that the race had been practically wiped out at some point, and in Catalyst we see that the early stages of the Death Star’s construction took place at Geonosis and that Geonosian labor was used. Furthermore, the Empire wrecks a handful of other planets that were involved in the construction in the book, so there’s definitely precident.

In all, this was certainly one of the better nuEU books I’ve read. It and Bloodline are the only two canon novels I’d consider to be great SW stories.

joefavs said:

-A Dressellian smuggler is heavily involved with Krennic, the Erso family, and Tarkin, and I’m really hoping he turns up in the film because I’ve been a fan of the Dressellian species ever since I got the action figure of the one with the eyepatch when I was a kid.

Pruneface!

yeah that would be good…

Perhaps he is the mysterious hooded figure with the Emperors guards… I think you may have outed the mystery man. It seems that the hooded garb is a traditional costume for them. I am willing to I think that’s our mystery Hooded man. Not Darth Maul and not the Emperor.

I’m not rushing out to see this film going to wait until after Christmas probably.

Tobar said:

Ronster said:

Yeah that could happen, also I wonder if their will be an Asian cut of the film which is slightly different, it happens much more frequently today and many films do this to cater to Asian markets.

I think the most interesting instance of this was Iron Man 3, where they shot new scenes starring a couple of China’s biggest stars. They added absolutely nothing to the plot and it was just an excuse for some targeted product placement. Apparently the intended audience wasn’t impressed.

Sadly the Asian cut of Gareth Edwards Godzilla never appeared. I hope we get an extended cut one day. Gareth Edwards showed remarkable constraint in how he handled Godzilla and it’s a shining light of how you build up to a proper Climax something sadly any thought goes in to in today’s blockbuster films. I suspect the same for Rogue One that a lot of cut scenes will end up in the trailers like they did for Godzilla. But he did say an extended cut was not out of the question (Godzilla), so the material is there. Shame he won’t be doing Godzilla 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAWAKLLAFV0

So Keep a look out for dumped trims!

More Donnie Yen or Jianne Wen in an Asian cut I certainly would not be complaining. I’d probably get that version too.

Can’t seem to find anything on Looper though mysteriously very little information on the Chinese cut. And I very much liked this film also.

TV Spot - Breathe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNc7Pz35OA

I know what you are Tarkin about now with regards to these TV spots. I think we may have also just heard Pao voice or sounds that he makes.

There’s a job to be done!

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

adywan said:

Finally, a clear shot of Rogue One’s Darth Vader. So it seems that he will swap between having his inner tunic under the chest plate to over it throughout the movie. And the lenses don’t look red here either, like they did in the trailers.

Is there photographic evidence of the alternative?

This comes as an relief for me. His chest plate does looks vintage 1977, my only hope is that it lights up. If not, I will be once again “awakened” and busy next year.

New Images…

Source
http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/11/6-new-images-including-details-on-a-possible-sequel-to-rogue-one.html

Liking all of this…Especially the Tie Striker

Why is there a Guardians of the Galaxy character in a Star Wars movie?

TV’s Frink said:

Why is there a Guardians of the Galaxy character in a Star Wars movie?

Which one looks like GOG? I have never seen it… But it’s that whole Marvel Universe Thing that scares me when it comes to Star Wars. If it becomes like MCU franchises then well…It will just not be Star Wars anymore. It will be too diluted perhaps.

I refuse to watch all the super hero movies, just not interested.