xxtelecine 7xx

adywan said:

To give an idea of what is left to do, here is a screenshot of the audio track editing timeline. each marker on the timeline represents shots left to do. As you can see, the majority of shots left to do involve one of the remaining miniatures/ props etc. Mainly the hangars, wampa and HiC. The audio is approx 80% complete. So not much left to do now ( click on image to see full size view)

 LOL VEGAS... I like the audio editing it can do, but a headache for video where I feel premier pro CC is better..

As Promised I have started working through select episodes from season one. Replacing the shots of the sabers with what I feel Disney made a bad decision to roll with too thin sabers.

I did not re-roto all of it just the shots, just  where there was clearly an indication of the sabers being too thin. Over all it sells the shots with out having to re-roto everything.

Also added light saber clashes light flares, and extended lock clashes flares.

Here is a sample:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMkQhZoXnEo

Please Let me know if anyone is interested, I am not going to upload every episode of the season, just the ones where there was a light saber involved. NOTE: You must already own the Blu-Ray release to be eligible for theses episodes.

PM me if interested in a dload link for select episodes.

CommandBen said:

TV's Frink said:

Hey, you might want to avoid TFA spoilers...

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/New-plot-spoiler-policy-please-read/forum/2/topic/16764/

 

 Sorry! I was unaware of that. I edited my post to remove the Spoilers 

 Before I do anything drastic about the "Luke's hand saber", I need to see how it actually plays out in JJ's new film, from a story perspective.

Center channel isolation.  Makes sense. 

Mister Clean said:

I absolutely plan on it, but it'll be some time until I can do so (probably months, at least).

My first job is to clean up as much of the dialogue as possible, removing the music (and sound effects), and then I'll be replacing any unsalvageable bits with clean dialogue from various sources. As far as I can tell, this should be possible for a good 95% of the film, if not more -- but there is the possibility of unpleasant surprises.

After that, the last thing to do will be to make sure it's all at the proper levels, then probably a final pass for polishing anything that doesn't quite cut it. If possible, I may release two versions: one with dialogue only, and one with sound effects only (that way editors can pick and choose which sound effects to keep, if any). Ultimately I plan on releasing the whole thing as a set of .wav files -- I'll most certainly make the announcement here on the forum when the time comes.

And then, y'know, I'll start working on Empire. :p

What channel format are you planning on releasing? 5.1 or 2.0?

Possessed said:

Whenever I get some time to start working on this again,  which will be hopefully next week, I'm happy to announce this will be using telecine's enhanced version as a source.  :)

 Kill the Ewoks!!! lol

Ronster said:

Yep Lasers here look really good.... The only thing that is bringing it down is the bright pink flashes where the whole screen goes pink.

Have you thought about changing the hue color of the pink flashes to match the color of the lasers?

If the flashes were red like the lasers then they would not be so prominent as the red spectrum would be far more subtle and would blend with the change to the laser colors you did.

Just something that I honestly think would bring it up another notch and make it a bit more modern.

Good work!

 Those pink flashes most are on camera lighting effects (original) 1978.  I think I might try to change the hue of it (flashes) Good IDEA. I already tried to outright remove them but with all the smoke in the corridor, you could clearly tell there were jump cuts. (something I want to avoid)  

http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_QH0BZEDXP1XzYwdVhvMk9Ma0E/view?usp=sharing

Note: there is no sound with this file.

CommandBen said:

Hey xxtelecine 7xx,

I really love your additions and your changes! Are you considering adding anything else to your Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi edits like Adywan is doing but with your own personal flair to it? Changes and Additions like (Enhancing the Asteroid Chase, Making the Debris that falls with Luke out of the Bespin Exhaust Pipe look like Luke's Hand, Enhancing the Environments, Updating HUD of the Hoth Snowspeeders and the Falcon, Making the Space Battle at the end of Return of the Jedi look better etc.) Because I love seeing these films "properly" improved with updated special effects and new additions.   

 CommandBen, 

As you know I already did a Beta of ROTJ, I do not have any immediate plans to do anything further because of a lack of time in my personal life.

With that said, there are a few additional things l would like to update time permitting but my main focus is trying to improve SW ep IV.  This one is one of the hardest ones to work on and I already privately spoke with ADYWAN (PM) offering my assistance with his HD version of revisited.  He agreed but he said it will be some time before he can get around to recreating his original vision of IV revised.

Right now I am working on the basics of episode IV, (Vader chest plate lights) (mask for Vader's eyes) Laser replacement, light saber replacement ect. Plus the same type of work like I did on EP V, and VI..

Also some of the original Laser blast that were drawn in by team George Lucas were poorly done as they lacked proper perspective. This of coarse was 1978 so it was understandable at the time, so I am frame by frame "REPLACING" not re-scoping those effects.  This is a detailed and very time consuming process because it involves cloning video information from other film frames for the removal process. Once done they will be re-animated and will reflect VFX for a more modern 2015 Star Wars universe.

I am also attempting the same process for some of Luke's Light saber sequences (remove the original) replace with the new.  Some shots are simply near impossible to do this, others are not.

So I plan on releasing a beta hopefully before this Christmas with the above changes, and then next year a more detailed edit, with sound and audio changes. (replacing the audio of the laser blasts and replacing the audio effects with the same sound type, but more dynamic range. Most of which I am going to source from the vast existing SW sound library's out there. (5.1 mix)

There will be welcomed changes like Han shooting first ect, and the deletion of the Jabba scene. But over all my focus will be to just concentrate on the above mentioned effects, it will be much more conservative than all the changes that ANDWAN did with his revisited release.  

Thanks for the interest, I appreciate the support, I will upload a clip soon of a finished sequence, hopefully if will spark some interest in this project.

ImperialFighter said:

adywan said:

Here is a new clip.  It's just under 9 minutes long and about 260MB.

First chance I've had to offer some thoughts on your recent extended clip adywan.  Some incredible work throughout once again, whether it be big enhancements or teensy-weensy tweaks since your last previews of these scenes.  It's truly amazing just how much has been altered and improved during this 9 minute segment alone, compared to the SE version!  :)

But I happened to notice a couple of small issues which stood out a little for me during all this goodness, so I'll describe them for the sake of 'feedback'/'observations' for yourself and everyone else (and will number/embolden them for easier viewing amongst my other comments, as this post will be lengthy!  Those of a nervous 'who cares?, just release the edit dammit!' disposition may wish to just scroll past...)   

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'Vane/Gantry Duel' Section

This whole section of your clip now has many terrific enhancements and fixes throughout (and I especially love all your improvements to the shot at 00:34 where the tiny figures of Luke and Vader exit the opening of the enormous 'Vane').  It's great to see the addition of the 'piece of tubing' on the end structure where Luke ends up, which was missing in certain shots - it may be a minor fix since your 'Xmas 2011 clip' version of this scene, but it's a very welcome one to see for consistency's sake.  (I also note that you slightly amended the 'airflow' of the steam/smoke coming from your 'Carbon Chamber' pipes, by the way - to allow for the windy conditions in the chasm I presume?  A nice subtle touch)

1.  I was also pleased that you ended up adding a touch of RED to the majority of the many 'missing' (black) chasm 'exhaust ports', as they help improve the background mattes no end.  But I see the ones during the shot where Vader slices the columns at 01:04 in your clip are *still* black (no biggie of course, and l imagine the earlier ones seen when Luke fights Vader at the window before crashing through it are difficult to re-colour too, due to movement unfortunately)  

2.  Also, in the shot of the chasm at 02:40 in your clip (which we see immediately after Luke first looks down), the row of vertical lights on the strip that the 'Vane' is attached to, are *still* WHITE...which unfortunately mis-matches with the all the other shots where you've made them RED now.  These new red vertical lights look great, by the way.

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'Underneath Cloud City/Falcon Rescuing Luke' Section

The numerous new cloud shots are all superb, and the re-colouring of the them along with the city's underside really ties everything together better now.  All your time-consuming 'rotoscoping' really paid off here.

3.  It's interesting to see how you've re-structured things where the Falcon approaches Luke now...but I'm a little sorry to lose one of the shots of Luke, as I liked the flow of all the original shots of his precarious situation at this point - and I'll go into this a bit more shortly.  (But first, for the benefit of anyone who didn't notice, I'll summarise your changes - I'll ignore the SE version which crudely chopped things up with various 'shuttle' shots, and only describe the difference between the original (GOUT) version shots and the latest clip) -

In the original (GOUT) version, the Falcon turns around and immediately after Vader says "Bring my shuttle!" there was an initial wide shot of Luke still hanging upside down at the top of the stem he's on (on the left of the frame), before we cut to the distant shot of the small Falcon nearing Cloud City.  Lando then spots the tiny figure of Luke hanging upside-down through the cockpit as they get nearer, and we eventually see another wide shot of Luke making a risky movement onto a lower part of the strut he's on (in the middle of the frame), while the Falcon approaches towards us in the distance (in the left of the frame).  After a couple of close-up shots showing Chewie growling and Leia watching, we then see the small figure of Luke through the cockpit again, where he is now sitting on the lower part of the strut and kicking one of his legs forward, as Leia's voice says "Okay, easy Chewie".  Finally, we see a wide shot where we now see the back of Luke as he sits and kicks his leg out, as the Falcon looms large directly below him. 

In the latest clip however, the Falcon turns around and immediately after Vader says "Bring my shuttle!" we now lose the shot of Luke hanging upside down (on the left of the frame) - it's been replaced with the shot of Luke making a risky movement onto a lower part of the strut, which originally came several shots later (except he's now positioned on the left of the frame, and there's no Falcon approaching in the distance anymore).  We then cut to the distant shot of the small Falcon nearing Cloud City, but when Lando first spots the tiny figure of Luke through the cockpit, it's now a re-use of him sitting on the lower part of the strut, which wasn't seen until several shots later in the original version - although his position still matches with the earlier 'replacement' shot in the clip, where he now continues to sit and kick his leg out until the Falcon looms large directly below him.  Additionally, a shot of Chewie growling has also been removed as the Falcon gets nearer to Luke now.

(For anyone curious, the replaced shot of 'Luke making a risky movement onto a lower part of the strut as the Falcon approaches' can be seen at 1:50:09 on the SE dvd - and is on the original (GOUT) version too, of course)   

I just happen to like the additional, delayed lead-up to Luke making his risky movement onto the lower part of the strut, I guess - I think what jars a little for me is the fact that we now see Luke constantly slowly kicking his leg out in the exact same way during this scene (and I think it's the fact that this Luke element looks strangely like a 'stop-motion puppet' compared to the other shots of him, which is why I preferred to see it used just once like it was the original sequence of shots) - however, if that re-used Luke element could have been made to 'kick out' *less* in one or two of the shots, it would work a lot better I reckon.

I realise that the small approaching Falcon is *too far away* from Luke when we see it approaching him in that particular original shot you removed/exchanged - as it doesn't match with the previous *closer* viewpoint of Luke we see through it's cockpit...but I'd have liked to have seen it retained in it's original place, except with a *closer* Falcon approaching Luke instead, at that point...so that the earlier wide shot of Luke upside-down could have remained.

However, your new version is very cleverly done adywan, and certainly still works fine - and it's always fascinating to see how you re-arrange the order of some shots altogether.

4.  Unfortunately, the detailing on the close-up of the Falcon's 'radar dish' looks all wrong during the shot where Luke falls downwards (seen at 05:43 in the clip)  It seems you've had to leave it as it is though. 

(but nice to see that you've now removed the titchy 'widget' from the top of the Falcon's guns when it hovers below Luke)

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'Vader On Executor Bridge' Section

Although each of the Original Trilogy movies had very high production values overall, where design work, set construction, costumes, etc. are concerned...the sheer amount of 'continuity errors' throughout this particular section of ESB always amazes me - I know that 'shortcuts' are part of the 'magic of the movies', and things go unnoticed on a single 'Theatrical' viewing or two...but there sure were are an awful *lot* of confusing 'positioning' issues and set mis-matches during these bridge shots, when scrutinized a little.  Any kind of 'continuity control' seemingly went out the window when these shots were filmed and put together...and they never gave a good indication of where the hell Vader was mean to be positioned. 

Until now. :) 

It's been fascinating to see your continuous refining of various shots these past years, adywan.  And the final re-structuring you've come up with for these 'Executor bridge' scenes are a marvel - the new shot of Vader walking towards the front windows, along with the various new backgrounds you came up with, make complete sense of his movements on the bridge now, and look terrific compared to the original sequence.  (the re-used 'wide bridge' shot is a great establishing replacement for the original shot of 'Vader looking out the window' you removed...and while I liked your earlier 'composite' bridge shot, I reckon you made the right call to *exclude* it at this point, due to the likes of the mis-matching crewmembers in it.  What you've done now works perfectly!  In addition, your new 'walking Vader' figure has turned out much better than the 'workprint' version too)

5.  However, while the flashing 'panel' lights are nice to see in the new wide bridge shot at 07:44, I found that additional amount of times the BLUE strips flashed on and off distracted from taking in all the other goodness overall.  They are certainly a welcome touch as they now tie-in with a couple of other bridge shots where they are briefly seen...but I reckon they would have been less disracting if they had been made to flash on and off a bit *less often* in this particular shot. 

I know you'll be adding these flashing blue strips to a couple of your other shots too...so that gives me an excuse to re-show another of your new wide bridge shots which shows off heaps of improvements when compared to the original versions (and I like that you improved some of those small ceiling lights either side of the large 'pipes' to make them symmetrical) - http://s2.postimg.org/a2m5p0qp5/officer.jpg

At the end of the day, none of the things I've brought up are biggies whatsoever in the scheme of things...especially considering the sheer amount of brilliance overall.

(Finally, I noticed you changed the single green 'panel' light to white when Vader first approaches Piette on the bridge - so checked to see if there was one on the other side of the 'shaking stardestroyer' bridge from earlier in the movie.  There was...and I see that you've removed it from your 'workprint' too, heh.  Now I really must get on with some work!...)

 LOL Wow, It must of taken you as much time to analyze these shots and write up your thoughts as it took ADYWAN to create it..

Good post though never the less...

anything can be removed and changed, fact is it take's TIME>>>

I am kidding Guys if someone is concerned....

OK ADYWAN, here is your quick composite of Luke's HAND.. I am sure you can animate this and add it to your Revisited edition  LOL  Have that one float down to the fluffy clouds.

It could be changed to a Hand :}  Pretty easy to do these days in AE.

Kool thanks. 

Powers finally back on :)

 Our power just went out it's been out for hours so you just lost the seed    

STAR WARS V The Empire Strikes Back (Version 5.0) BD 22 Final XXTELECINE 7XX

(FANFIX) not FAN EDIT

I am please to announce Star Wars V (version 5.0) Is now availablE.   Though this is a Fan Edits Forum, I did no editing to change the film from a story perspective but this is more for other fan editors out there in the community who would want to use my work is totally OK.  Some might like the visual effects changes I made, others will not.  This is simply put a library source (digital clean up) if or so others wish to use clips or parts of the movie that I changed can.

 I wanted to cut some scenes from the specialized version, but I do not want to break the DTS 7.1 audio mix, because simply put it's Awesome!!

Some people on these boards know me from my ROTJ beta 2.0, I have had private requests to do the same work on empire, actually I already have, it just was not finished.  Now it is  

Things done---

Laser blasts rescoped

lightsabers rescoped

Muzzle flashes added

Impact effects added

Luke now has Sith eyes (in the Vader costume)

Falcon Engine changed to Blue (looking back it should be more of a Teal color but I am not going back as It is the same color in all of my fan fixes)

(Update)  I have now about 7 leechers the closest guy to seed is stuck at 9 gigs (possessed?)lol, he might have turned off his PC. I only plan to seed this for a week, while I want others to share the load. My upload pipeline is getting overloaded.

Thanks possessed.  I copied and pasted from an iPhone.  I did not relize that link was live.  I wanted it to be a search parameter not a direct link.   I edited that post.  

Please search via usual channels. 

Might need 12 hours to replicate on search sites, PM me if you need help finding it.

I am please to announce Star Wars V (version 5.0) Is now availablE.   Though this is a Fan Edits Forum, I did no editing to change the film from a story perspective but this is more for other fan editors out there in the community who would want to use my work is totally OK.  Some might like the visual effects changes I made, others will not.  This is simply put a library source (digital clean up) if or so others wish to use clips or parts of the movie that I changed can.

 I wanted to cut some scenes from the specialized version, but I do not want to break the DTS 7.1 audio mix, because simply put it's Awesome!!

Some people on these boards know me from my ROTJ beta 2.0, I have had private requests to do the same work on empire, actually I already have, it just was not finished.  Now it is  

Things done---

Laser blasts rescoped

lightsabers rescoped

Muzzle flashes added

Impact effects added

Luke now has Sith eyes (in the Vader costume)

Falcon Engine changed to Blue

We are comparing trading cards to teaser trailers? 

Hal 9000 said:

Are you going to rotoscope the ANH Vader helmet in there too?

 I already did.  Anh still needs a lot of work before I release it.   It looks comparable to ANH work in in ANH revisited.   Was a lot quicker to do with mocha's planar tracker. 

emanswfan said:

I do have a problem with the mixing of Vader's voice though.  Obviously it's James Earl Jones still, but it doesn't sound quite like Vader, almost as if their is some weird thin, restricted quality to it.  His voice sounds much better in the actual OT.  And I doubt it his age that is causing it.  I just cringed so much during the season 2 premiere.

If the Bluray has isolated dialogue, it would great if this could be fixed.  Not really sure if I'm the only who's noticed.

 Mabey. But you have to understand, the dude is old.  Your voice changes the more you age.  

Ok.  I see.