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#1198119
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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chyron8472 said:

Jeebus said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/unarmed-teen-killed-by-police-was-simply-backing-his-moms-minivan-out-of-garage-lawsuit-claims?ref=home

Video of the shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NJfYVFxta0&feature=youtu.be

The more I think about this, the more my heart hurts for this family. Killed by a police officer, who is apparently protected by the rest of the Justice Department, simply for backing a vehicle into the driveway after opening the garage door.

It hurts me so much to think what this father must be feeling, and how empty anything that can be done must be.

It is horrible, but what everybody needs to remember when we read this is that this family isn’t suffering alone. Police murder unarmed people each week in this country. Until we deal with our corrupt and vicious police forces, this will never stop happening.

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#1198068
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Jeebus said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/unarmed-teen-killed-by-police-was-simply-backing-his-moms-minivan-out-of-garage-lawsuit-claims?ref=home

Video of the shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NJfYVFxta0&feature=youtu.be

Also, just a quick reminder: These are the people that some Americans want to station in every single school to protect the children.

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#1197735
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[fill in the blank] Just Died!
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Neglify said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Neglify said:

Wait. The dude who has the “No Smoking” symbol as his avatar says he doesn’t want to live past 35? You dork, if you want to die young, smoke up.

I quit because it makes my chest hurt and was making it tough to breathe. I don’t want to be completely miserable while I am alive.

Wait what, aren’t you like only 17 or something?

No, I’m not. My lungs are bad as it is because of some illness from when I was a child, which is probably why the smoking was having such an immediate bad effect on me.

Anyway, it’s actually kind of funny you bring up the whole “dead by mid-30s” thing. Quite a few years back I made a similar prediction for myself, figuring I’d be dead before my 35th birthday. Now I’m just a month shy of my 33rd birthday and I laugh when I think about my stupid younger self. I know for certain now I’ll live a long life until the ripe old age of 42.

That’s interesting. That’s a beautiful parallel between us.

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#1197734
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[fill in the blank] Just Died!
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

moviefreakedmind said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I’ll never understand this. I’m terrified of death.

Why? As long as I don’t die from being buried alive, I’m cool with death.

I like consciousness, and I don’t like uncertainty.

I enjoy familiarity quite a bit, but I consciousness kind of pains me. I can’t imagine being frightened by death. Even when I was as young as four or five I was really excited by it and fascinated with death in a bizarre way. I hate it when most other people die, but I’ve never been disturbed by or concerned with the death of myself.

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#1197679
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[fill in the blank] Just Died!
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I’ll never understand this. I’m terrified of death.

Why? As long as I don’t die from being buried alive, I’m cool with death.

LordZerome1080 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It’s funny you mention 30, because 30-35 is my goal in terms of lifespan. And no, my goal isn’t to live that long, it’s to not live any longer than that.

As for the movies and reading, that’s a fair point.

You sure about that bro?

Hell yeah bro.

Why not just let life lead you rather than ending everything at 30-35.

I didn’t say anything about ending anything, I just said I hope that I don’t live longer than 30-35. This has been a longtime fixation of mine. Even when I was only 12 or 13 I really hoped I’d die before age 18. And not in a depressed suicidal way either, I just hoped that it would happen. I can’t explain it, it’s just a weird quirk of mine.

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#1197678
Topic
Religion
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CatBus said:

Mrebo said:

CatBus said:

Mrebo said:

CatBus said:

Mrebo said:

Sure, atheists view things differently, but the kind of duck deity you conceptualize is wholly unlike God conceived by most theists.

The duck was created with the following criteria: no matter how preposterous the rest of it was, it must not be disprovable. So not wholly unlike – your modern gods were created with the same overriding criteria.

That something can’t be disproven or fully understand doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Science proceeds on all manner of theories that can’t be disproven.

Ah, that’s the point of contention, and it’s based on a misunderstanding of the duck post. It’s not the lack of disprovability that means it doesn’t exist, it’s the completely off-the-wall preposterousness of it. The feathers and bill are what made it not exist, not the lack of disprovability. The lack of disprovability is just what keeps the duck plausible enough for its believers. It doesn’t mean anything to me.

You’re right that the duck deity I conceptualize is wholly unlike the gods conceived by most theists, but my point was that because the duck was considerably more plausible than those gods, and I was comfortable saying with certainty that the duck didn’t exist, then it followed that I was comfortable saying the same thing about those gods.

I don’t know your basis for saying the duck is more plausible. If the problem is the bill and feathers, then maybe the bill and feathers don’t exist. The discussion on pages 27-28 I mentioned is relevant to that point. Flawed conceptions of God are common but don’t demonstrate that God is implausible.

A fairly mild and minimalist god, maybe your watchmaker-style god, is still, in my mind, more preposterous than the duck, even if the duck was blowing a party horn and wearing a fez. Clearly YMMV.

EDIT: Originally linked to the wrong Wikipedia article. What I mean by watchmaker is the God who set the universe in motion and then just walked away, leaving it to its own devices.

I tend to agree with this comparison and had in mind [believers] of that kind of deity as not included in my reference to “most theists” who recognize a deity based on their own perceptions. A God that is not present is like your imaginary duck. That’s not what most theists see as God.

Which is why the duck was set up as the less preposterous example. You start adding new roles for God and it just gets further and further out there.

moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve never met someone who actually, somehow, thinks that religion is a net positive for society yet has as insulting of an attitude toward the existence of God as you.

Religion is a net positive and God doesn’t exist. That’s really the only two points I’ve made. I’ve actually tried to avoid being insulting, but if people ask what I think, I’m going to be honest with them. I like God. God is neat. You don’t have to be real to be neat.

It’s kind of surreal actually because I’m extremely anti-Christ, anti-religion, and anti-theist in general, but I would never be so absurd as to say that a technicolored duck with party-favors is more plausible than a god.

Once you’ve thrown “setting the universe in motion” on the table, IMO waterfowl and party favors aren’t a very big ask. Again, YMMV.

You call Dawkins an asshole, but even he has more respect for the premise of God than you do.

I call Dawkins an asshole because he insults people, not because he insults God.

If I believed in God I would find your duck oversimplification as offense as what Dawkins says. I don’t necessarily mind insulting people either, by the way. I just think it’s weird that you would be insulting to theist while simultaneously claiming that religion is a benefit to society.

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#1197662
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[fill in the blank] Just Died!
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Longevity is over-rated. Even if Barbara or George Sr. had died young, their marriage still would’ve been as fulfilling as it apparently was. Obviously, a 73-year marriage is more romantic and poetic than one in which a partner was widowed young or in middle-age, but other than that there’s little difference. It’s the same with life-span. I’d rather have Jim Morrison’s life over Strom Thurmond’s any day.

Anyway, RIP Barbara Bush.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I was going off on a tangent and my commentary had nothing to do with Barbara Bush at all, just the idea of desiring longevity.