haraldo23

This BluRay set is not even worth a download...

1. Genndy Tartakovsky's Star Wars: Clone Wars (2D Cartoon)

2. The Original Trilogy

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Yeah, that's pretty much it.

This thread is a good read! Thanks everyone!

I hear you, buddy.

I've been thinking about remaking The Star Wars Prequels in a comic-book form for some time now. And while I think I have some cool ideas that could actually work... there's just not enough of them. I mean, you can't build a house with just a few bricks. :/

First, of course, is the script.

The story has to make sense, characters have to be interesting/well written, the whole thing's gotta have a nice flow and a style that fits in with The Original Trilogy. But it's easier said than done...

Like, take fan-written scripts, for example. The main problem with most of them is that they take themselves way too seriously. The dialogue is sophisticated and filled with unusual words and expressions. Story-lines are a bit too complex and rather joyless. Then there's a lot of political crap mixed with moody action scenes...

And, on top of that, you can actually feel that the person writing the script is more worried than excited [to write a Star Wars story]. Without fun there's no fun... And it's the same thing with me.

That damn script. It's a major problem. The deeper I try to get into it, the more plot-holes I make, the more depressed I get... The fact that English isn't my 1st language doesn't help either.

And then, of course, there's drawing - putting it all on a page.

Personally, I'm just an amateur caricaturist. I draw stuff like this:

Now, can you even imagine my take on a wide-shot of Coruscant? ... That's right...

So, yeah, this prequel re-write - I wanna do it, I just don't know if I can.

But I really hope that some day someone will. Cause it would be awesome!

xhonzi said:

Go look in the rewrite forum for threads with this exact same (give or take) title as well as many other that will answer your question.

Oh, snap!... I wasn't aware of this forum section: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/forum.cfm/Script-Writing-and-Re-writing/forum/21/ . Never noticed it...

I'm sorry. And... now I feel kinda awkward... 

Can I somehow delete this thread?

This is more of a questions for those who saw The Original Trilogy back when it 1st came out, when prequels were years and years away...

What was your reaction when you first heard George Lucas mention a potential prequel trilogy - a cinematic Star Wars back-story?

What did you expect to see in those films? What kind of story-lines were running through your head at that moment? And what creatures and characters did you expect to see return?

I mean, I don't even know how to put this... I'd just like to know what did the original fans expect from another Star Wars Trilogy? Back when stuff like Gungans, Clone Troopers, The Sith, enormous CGI set pieces, baby Vader, fast-paced lightsaber fights and George's "true vision" were yet to be discovered?

And how did you imagine Jedi would be like? And "Clone Wars"? And Ben being buddies with Vader?

Please, share your thoughts, guys!

nightstalkerpoet said:

I did have one question. How does the Podrace flow? it's completely redone and reorganized. I'm guessing it worked alright since you didn't mention it, but I was still curious.

Yeah, I didn't know what to say about that. I usually fast-forward that scene, but here I watched the whole thing. It was weird... I didn't notice anything. It just flew real smoothly.

I mean, really, it's the last scene I would try and nit-pick. It worked great. Kudos to you, man!

I think I'm gonna go back and watch the original version, just to compare...

Oh, and one other thing I wanted to ask:  do you plan on adding some VFX stuff or anything like that? Cause there a lot of fan-editors re-coloring lightsabers and adding all sorts of new stuff to the film. So I was wondering - do you have any plans like that?

An alien, robot-looking Bull-Dyke... George sure broke new grounds with this one...

Any publicity is good publicity. And every successful person has lovers and haters.

That's why you should just let them troll. Let them bump up your view counts, spread the word and turn into your little publicity servants (cause they will, eventually).

It's all good, dude.  

Ok, so I just finished watching The New Version of this Fan-Edit and right away I'll say that this is better than V1. Don't get me wrong, the 1st one was interesting (in a very good way), but this 2nd version has a lot more improvements. Like, there are no midi-chlorians in this edit, for example. That I very much appreciated!

Now, before I start talking about the bad things and suggesting stuff - I want you to know that I really like this edit and I feel like there's a lot of potential here. Ok? Ok!

So...

- In the beginning of the film Nute Gunray (if that's him) assures everyone that "this blockade is perfectly legal". Now, I feel like this part of the sentence is completely unnecessary. It's like telling a police officer that it's safe to come in, that there's no weed in your basement... It just doesn't make any sense. :/

- The line "They must be dead by now. Kill what's left of them". Again - it's unnecessary. Those droids are already taking action. It seems like you can easily remove that scene and cut to the chase.

Also, have you considered perhaps removing the whole droid and blast-door scenario completely? Like, right after the "gas scene" you could just cut to that dude saying "Sir, they went up the ventilation shaft" and then show Obi and Qui-Gon jump into the hangar.  I don't know how well it would work, but it might be worth a try...

- In the scene where they're trying to get past the blockade, R2 pushes Jar-Jar and he says "How rude!". It would be very cool if you could simply mute that motherfucker. He ruins the mood and pacing of the scene.

- @17:47 in the desert, right after they leave the ship to look for parts, Jar-Jar says something like "The sun is doing a murder to missa skin"... I would like to see that line removed. I mean, I have nothing against Jar-Jar being a bit clumsy - it's understandable, since it's not his natural environment - but every time he opens his mouth it's beyond annoying...

- Jar-Jar showing his tongue to Qui-Gon. It's just stupid. Leave the clumsiness, but remove that tongue scene if you can.

- After Qui-Gon makes the deal with Vatto, there's a scene where Obi and Jin talk on the phone and Obi says something like "What if this plan fails?". It would be interesting if you could put that scene before the one where Qui-Gon makes the deal. It would show us that Qui-Gon actually respects Obi-Wan's opinion, that he's not just doing it on his own.

- All that Yoda's "fear leads to this and that" bullshit line should be removed. Anakin gets asked weather he's afraid or not, but instead of letting him go nuts you could just have him stare at Yoda and then insert the "I sense much fear in you" line.

- Every mention of Anakin being "too old" should definitely be removed. Dude's just a child - how younger should he be? Him being dangerous, or his future looking too cloudy should be the main reason why Jedi order is so hesitant.

- NOW THIS! This I think is an important one:

After Qui-Gon asks if "he will be trained then" - Sam Jackson's just chillin' there and answers "No". Then, after a very awkward scene, they all decide to just leave this conversation for later. Now... what the hell, man? Why are they changing their minds like that? And why is everyone on the council such a douche-wad?

The best solution for this, I think, is to just cut to Yoda saying "Young Skywalker's fate will be decided later" right after Qui-Gon asks if "He will be trained then?" It leaves us guessing, it spares an awkward scene and makes the council look better.

- If you remove The Autopilot, it makes Anakin a much stronger character. Like he really knows stuff about space-ships and just wants to help and get in on action, without Autopilot guiding the way.

- Ending.

Well, that was unexpected! XD But, if I may suggest, that scene is not powerful enough. You could try and remove that one and insert Qui-Gon's funeral instead. Cause it's basically the same thing - we find out that Anakin's gonna be a Jedi (Obi even promises him) and on top of that we hear some chatter about Sith starting shit up again. We hear some new information that keeps us intrigued.

And that's it! That's all I got!

I'm sorry if there are some spelling mistakes or if I'm not being very clear - English isn't my 1st language. But I really hope this helps and I'm very much looking forward to your next project.

Good luck!

nightstalkerpoet said:

Finally I've gotten around to finishing this edit. (Sorry I didn't keep up on OT as well as I should have, for those of you who wondered about the edit in my absence).

So, reviewers are needed for this edit so I can release it asap!

Anyone interested in watching a 1 hr 7 minute version of TPM, let me know. It's over before you know it, keeping it entertaining without removing any important details or plot points.

A lot of the silence involved with this project is that it was heading in the direction of a joint effort between L8wrtr and I. He, of course, has been busy creating his own amazing edits, and very gradually finally convinced me to give it a shot on my own.

Dude, I would love to see it!

Dude, you never cease to surprise. XD

I was a big fan of the 1st version, but this could work, too... Good luck!

theprequelsrule said:

Given Kershner's post-ESB efforts (Robocop 2 anyone?) I say:

Nooooooooooooooooo!!!

Sacrilige!

"RoboCop 2" is a freakin' masterpiece! And it's bazillion times better than most of the action movies we have these days!

Bingowings said:

That is a pretty neat idea.

The console thing needs a bit of reworking.

I know the screen was positioned there to avoid having to manipulate Ewan's arm but it's more at droid/Jawa height than humanoid height and the droid computer interface would rule out the need for a screen for droids.

As far as I can remember I've never seen a Separatist Astrodroid.

Their fighters are droids and those little silver 'umba-lumpa' droids (briefly seen in TPM) appear to do internal repairs so what's that lug-in point doing there anyway?

It might make sense to add a few astrodroids onto their ships in the PT as the interface serves a key role in that scene (as does the one in the droid factory in AOTC).

Well, you can look at it as a printer port on your computer. You don't necessarily need/use it (with all the USBs hanging around), but it's still there and, who knows, it may come in handy someday. :D 

walkingdork said:

 

^ The Greatest PT-related thing EVER!

This cartoon rocked rocks in a spaceship made out of... freakin'.... rocks, dude!

I never liked TPM Yoda. He looked weedy and stiff. 

CGI version ain't much of an improvement, but at least they're being consistent with the rest of the PT.

bobgarcia74 said:

Take #1 of the senate clip. Also changed up 3po's line about flying, and yet again removed shots of ships taking off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpCJZrfWujs

 

Alright!

I would really love to make some kind of Star Wars-related Comic Book, but there's been so many that coming up with a new/somewhat original idea seems rather impossible. 

TK-949 said:

 

haraldo23 said:

It's an image from the old Tartakovsky's Clone Wars cartoon.

Uh-uh, it's not. That's Captain Rex. Captain Rex was not in the 2D.

 

I... I don't care, man. They all look the same.

doubleofive said:

Says the man with a Captain Rex avatar?

haraldo23 said:

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The best thing that has ever come out of the prequels was the 2D Clone Wars cartoon. Now that was awesome and very well done! ...

It's an image from the old Tartakovsky's Clone Wars cartoon. That show was an incredible Star Wars experience.

Clone troopers were manly bad-asses with a very cool, precise, military attitude;

Anakin/Obi-Wan relationship was very well done - those guys seemed like they're real buddies;

Padme didn't shove her political crap down our throats;

There were little-to-no annoying kids in the whole cartoon;

No damn kid-friendly padawan;

General Grievous was a real villain - tough and menacing;

None of the droids were annoying;

The music was much more closer to the original;

It felt more Star War'ish (OT'ish) than all of the prequel films combined;

It didn't make me cringe - not even ONCE.

I could go on and on.... But the fact is - that show was simply AMAZING and I would love to see more!

This new 3D cartoon, however, seems and feels like a useless, cheap, pathetic rip-off from Tartakovsky's work.

This is what I think. You're free to agree or disagree.

I very much dislike that show. There's too much political crap mixed with childish cliches. And the voice acting can be really annoying.

I simply cannot enjoy it. I sometimes give it a shot and download an episode or two just to see if maybe I'm wrong, but... no... after 5 minutes my brain starts to hurt and I get that feeling that I'm wasting my time on nothing. 

The best thing that has ever come out of the prequels was the 2D Clone Wars cartoon. Now that was awesome and very well done! This? It doesn't even feel like a kids show...

As long as it's Revisited, it's good enough for me.

So, yeah, I'm down for whatever.

The one on the right bottom is really nice!

Mithrandir said:

... Make him remain silent for a more Vaderish attitude.

Well, that's the thing.

Hayden ain't that bad of an actor, it's the dialogue that makes him seem like an idiot. Bob's version of The Opera Scene proved that when you remove some of his lines and make him a bit more silent - he says a lot more with his body language and facial expressions.

That's what I think, anyway...

vaderios said:

Your point is invalid :P ...

vaderios said:

... I love blue ;)

Well, don't worry. Even if the background stays untouched - you'll still get your blue.

;)