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Ronster said:

Of course he knows what he is doing.. That's the Blu Ray not revisited.

Ady added a defined Aura to this shot which looks much better but in your 2nd photo you can clearly see the Blue Haze eminating off the Aura the blue Haze is normal at that distance your photo backs it up. 

That's not haze. That's light from the sun bouncing off the water and atmosphere and refracting inside the camera lens. It's a trick of the optics caused by the angle and position of the camera. That only happens when you're close to the planet, such as in this photo which I'd guess is about 200 miles up.

In that shot of Hoth, the camera is positioned much further away, probably closer to 1,000 miles. Frankly, the atmosphere in the second shot is extending too far away from the planet. It would appear less than half that thick at that distance. But of the two, I'll take the second one, because it's more accurate than a loose blue haze extending for a thousand miles in every direction.

Personally, I like the idea of varying the color of the stars in spots, but it would have to be subtle so as not to distract from the foreground action, and certainly not a blanket blue like in your mockup.

Ronster said:

Perfectly straight aura around a planet it looks so incredibly unnatural and fake when although the shot looks better by removing the matte lines it lost it's realism totally. You would expect a more or less straight aura at a distance but this close to the planet The original film is more correct and looks better and less harsh.

Actual photos of the Earth from an even closer vantage point than the above shot:

Why do some people continue to act like Adywan doesn't know what he's doing? It boggles my mind.

That's really good, Jaitea. They definitely morphed Hurt's face with Eccleston's in the special, but it cut away so fast it was easy to miss. I wish they'd extended it until it was all Eccleston like here.

muddyknees2000 said:

I'd almost wager that they intentionally chose not to name Fett in the film....possibly due to not being able to find a place to slip it in without it sounding too contrived or cheesy. There are multiple points at which they COULD have named him, but don't. For example at one point Leia asks Lando what is to become of Han (after Han's been tortured), to which Lando replies: "He's being given to the bounty hunter."

That guy who did that thing wasn't named because no one involved in the production thought it was important. I agree with them.

It's my understanding that Ady did stretch the hologram a little already. It doesn't need it anymore. The problem is the old one was at the wrong angle and that's what's burned into everyone's memories.

Nothing hokey about it. The original Vader puts his hands on his hips in a very un-Vaderlike Diva Pose. The new hologram matches Vader's stance perfectly.

I enjoyed An Adventure a lot. I'm glad it was a straight docudrama as I think it has wider appeal. I recommended it to Mom (who was 11 in Nov '63) and she adored it despite not knowing the first thing about Doctor Who. Suddenly she's curious to see the first episode of the classic series. I think it managed to convey the mood and message quite well even if one could nitpick its accuracy.

"Professional video work everyday" but no blu-ray drive....

Harmy said:

That I would consider a tragedy. Revisited is great but I really don't think that it should be the version that is viewed a 100 years from now, just as the SE shouldn't be.

Ronster said:

I nearly can't argue against this and your point is steadfast and I don't want any changes to crawls for revisited unless Ady decides to make them but...

First film = Star Wars 1979 then became episode 4

Ok no problem 4, 5 and 6 that is the trilogy of the OT.

If people in 100 years time decide that they want to watch star wars and start at episode 1 they won't / might not make it to episode IV so really it's not as simple as Godfather part I,II and III and if anything it is confusing.

But I do agree with you too.:P

Savage said:

Were people going to be confused that the movie coming in 2002 was not going to be the next chronological episode?  

I've been holding off sharing ANH:R with my girlfriend until ESB:R comes out, and she is happy to wait as long as it takes so we can watch the two films back-to-back, as she follows the production on Facebook and has great respect for the effort and love going into this. 

I finished playing a fan-made mod of the first-person shooter Half-Life recently, and I thought of Revisited more than once during my playthrough. Black Mesa: Source took 8 years to make with a team of developers and programmers and mappers working almost around-the-clock. This is largely one man (with a fantastic group of men and women helping him in important ways) and I think it's remarkable that it's only taken 5 years, given all that adywan has had to deal with in real life.

Some might consider it hyperbole, but I believe we're lucky to have ANY fan-made special editions of this caliber to enjoy. Revisited is the reason I still consider myself a Star Wars fan today, after turning my back on the franchise after the Prequels. It's been a fun ride these last 5 years watching ESB:R take shape. I've no doubt the final product will be worth the wait.

Nice list, Ronster. I can't wait for the day when some of these suggestions are implemented, that will mean we're in the home stretch!

Adywan revisted the OT in a way that I never could have foreseen. I've yet to see anyone in the fanediting community plan and execute such an ambitious series of SW "special editions" with such quality and skill. So, just because we can't imagine the PT as good films doesn't make it a fact. It stands to reason that if adywan didn't believe it was possible, he wouldn't do it, and 99.9999% of the time ady is right. :)

Akratus said:

brimforge said:

.Mac. said:

Well, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 : 1 ;)

 

It depends on the asteroid field (how much rocks and dirts fly around) and the pilots skill - but it's sure a foolish task to do ;-)

Actually, the chances of you even coming close to an asteroid are over a million to one. 

See, this is another classic symptom of mankind's inability to grasp the vastness of space.

I think If I did a fan edit of the movies I'd cut the 3po 'chances' dialogue. Of course, it's quite a fan beloved piece of banter, so that's just me. 

The asteroid chase is a perfect example of art vs. reality. In reality, these sorts of bob-and-weave flying through asteroid field scenes in movies wouldn't happen because asteroids are miles, hundreds of miles, apart.

But from an artistic standpoint, it makes for a great piece of cinema. The asteroid chase, and the cave/space slug setup and payoff, is one of the most memorable parts of TESB. It's visually and emotionally exciting, which is what we're after as an audience watching a space fantasy. Not meticulous realism.

Bingowings said:

It might be fun to use sources like this to create an audience reaction alternate soundtrack.

It would be like watching ESB:R in 1980.

This makes me wonder... Adywan, do you have any plans to try to recreate the variable volume levels of dialogue that some in that thread have talked about? I didn't even realize that the original audio mix played with the volume of the dialogue this way.

Sorry I'm typing on my phone so my post is poorly worded and explained.

thejediknighthusezni said:

  Violent assaults by homosexually oriented characters ocur at a vastly greater rate as assaults by straights against gays and bis'. With rates that radically out of wac I don't believe ANY homosexual has any business carrying on as if THEY are the great victims. The Wyoming (Utah?) robbery thing was a great tragedy but they FINALLY found something they could pretend was straight on gay. It didn't matter that it looks like a couple of mean drunks got bombed out of their skulls and got a little carried away trying to scare him into not going to the cops. THIS is the great singular case of gay bashing? I don't care about what consenting adults do in private homes or private clubs. I have a problem with Heteros promoting or exhibiting freaky hetero stuff while in public in front of other peoples children. I am also horrified by the targeting of other people's children and confused teens (regressed children.) Anyone who dares to have a problem with these things are instantly demonized and dehumanized and targeted as politically incorrect enemies. That is dispicable beyond words. HOMOSEXUALS believe wholeheartedly in TURNING and many target children and confused and vulnerable teens. There are MANY credible studies, TWINS being among the most notable, that proves that this proclivity is essentially determined by ENVIRONMENT. There is NOTHING credible to indicate it is due to what would be the shortest lived genetic mutation in human history.

If these are your actual views, you can get right the fuck out of this thread.

Ronster said:

your observation level is nowhere near as high as mine.

Ohhhhkay. Then you must've observed that Boba Fett turns toward the Falcon which is flying away from the camera.

Again, no offense, but I don't care about you enough to spend time "pooh poohing" you personally. I've examined the scene, and it doesn't need anything more than what adywan already did months ago. :)

I loved the Hyperion Cantos so fucking much that I decided to read Simmons' other great sci-fi epic:

I finished ILIUM the other day and I just started OLYMPOS. I know I won't love them half as much as Hyperion, but I enjoyed ILIUM quite a bit. Imagine if the Greek Gods lived atop Olympus Mons on Mars, and recreated the Iliad down to the smallest detail. It's not as simple as that (if that sounds simple...) and sometimes it's all a little much, but there are two other main stories - one involving two biomechanical Shakespeare-loving robots on a mission to figure out what the fuck is happening on Mars, and the other involving humans on Earth who live very much like H.G. Wells' eloi  - that made up for what the Trojan War story lacked.

It's chock full of incredible ideas, but it just doesn't have the character depth that made Hyperion my favorite science fiction book since Dune.

I would also like to vote for Slave 1 not jumping to hyperspace at the end of the sequence. It seems crammed in there and I imagine it took Fett a bit longer than 3 seconds to deduce where Han & Co. were headed. Only then could he jump to hyperspace.

Sorry for the triple-post.... I don't have anything to add for months, and then I get keyboard diarrhea! :)

Ronster said:

I don't really want to babble on about this but here is what I see in the Bobba fett scene.

1. The Falcon fires it's engines and flys through the junk.

2. Slave 1 fires it's engines and follows the falcon in close pursuit through the junk but with no intention to attack.

3. We are shown another shot of the falcon being pursued in close proximity by Slave 1 and both ships are now exiting the junk.

4. We are now inside the cockpit of Slave 1 Boba fett is looking through a periscope of sorts. We then see Boba fett swivel in his cockpit chair while the falcon gets further away suggesting he is no longer following them.

now on point 4... is the periscope forward facing or is it off to the side as in are we seeing a side shot of Boba fett facing forward in the cockpit of slave 1 or are we behind Boba fetts chair and he has turned 90 degrees to the right only to swivel back to forward facing?

In my mind the periscope is forward facing for ergonomics.. Meaning he has cut off pursuit and this is a side view of the cockpit.

 

No offense, but I think you're creating a problem where there is none. We know that Boba Fett is a bounty hunter, we know his job is to track and capture Han, we see him lay in wait, and then begin to pursue the MF, and then later on Cloud City, we see the Empire has laid a trap. The Empire could only have discovered where Solo was headed thanks to Boba Fett tracking them, and then we see Boba in the carbon freezing chamber there to claim his prize.

This is one of those cases where the movie expects the audience to be smart enough to take these pieces and assemble them into a coherent whole without needing to be spoon-fed.

You see to be trying to find holes so that they can be plugged up by new shots and changes, but this isn't a case of holes, it's breathing room for the story to come alive in the viewer's imagination.

Is the periscope forward-facing or off to the side? What does it matter, we know that Fett is a bounty hunter hunting Solo and we see that set-up paid off at Cloud City.

I'm not trying to be pedantic, I just think this is not the issue that it's being made out to be.

exitzero said:

Just add an extra line of dialog to explain everything like George Lucas did every scene in Red Tails.  When the Stormtroopers swarm in behind Han, Leia, & Chewie after Vader takes Han’s Blaster away have one of the Stormtroopers say-

“I’m sure glad Boba Fett was able to figure out the Millennium Falcon was headed here to Bespin while he was tracking them in Slave 1 and jamming their radar.”  And then maybe Chewie could step in some poo.  I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

Ric, is that you?

:)

Ronster said:

I just watched the clip on facebook again... And whilst I like the increased distance It's a shame to lose the falcon leaving the junk also as a consequence but nevermind.

I don't see what you mean. The falcon still leaves the junk, at 2:45 in the clip below:

https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=2353822522780

Bingowings said:

I don't think there are many private investigators who can follow behind someone so fast they get to their destination before the person they are following behind.

But spacetime is very bent.

Apparently, if you fly in a straight line fast enough, you'll eventually come up behind yourself. Bent indeed.

When my uncle is investigating someone, he doesn't just follow them everywhere they go. He learns their schedule and common places well enough that he can guess where they're going and take a different route to get there ahead of time. Or he'll radio to his sons where to pick up the tail so he can turn off and not arouse suspicion of the mark.

If you could only watch one zombie film in your life, it should be Dawn of the Dead (1978). It's the entire sub-genre in one film, and as Bingo said, the length/monotony is part of the experience.

If you had to watch two, it would be Dawn and Shaun.

You know what has no reason to exist? The word "overrated".