RE: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"**ADYWAN** - **Suggestions now closed but tidbits are still open**
Ronster said:
We are getting a new clip at Christmas so hold your fire. But I do really like the trailer it get's me pumped up.
There is one more tidbit of info I want to share and I am also starting to realize far reaching ramifications to the whole escape from echo base sequence if it was to be altered and I don't mind if it is not or it is but for more general interest purposes.
this is the last bit of informed guesswork about an older version that we never saw. On the shot where they run past the old Wampa door as it is in the film as we know it. The music could have been originally intended for the last rebel transport cockpit shot calling for Princess Leia and they could not wait much longer. And that is all I have left to say but I am not 100% sure about this but this is currently my instinct.
But I think it matters very little at this stage but again just interesting really.
I would like to see a bunch of fan made trailers could be a good promotional drive before it is finally finished.
How's this for an idea? I'll donate $100 to adywan if you promise to stop pointing out things that need fixing in TESB. Seriously.
dan76 said:
Also, in the trailer I thought the shot of the Falcon was weak, it has the fake motion blurring that cgi never gets right - the image felt thin and light.
CGI in teasers and trailers is rarely, if ever, the finished shot.
AntcuFaalb said:
#3263827 for me.
If we get that far before ESB:R is released, I'll throw myself in my apartment's garbage compactor.
Those are just raffles. I thought people universally loved raffles. Buy a ticket, you could win a prize! Suddenly it's a mercenary activity? Please.
DuracellEnergizer said:
I do consider the human characters of the universe descendants of humans from Earth, after all
How can they be descendants of Earthlings if Star Wars happened "long ago"?
kane1138 said:
adywan said:
TV's Frink said:
Blinky!
FINALLY!!! I was wondering if anyone was going to get the deliberate 3 eyed reference.
If the creature has 3 eyes on one side of its head, wouldn't it have 6 eyes in total?
It's a 3-eyed reference, not a 3-eyed lizard.
No one can improve on this. ESB:R Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZliwkutFwV0
I was shocked to see it was posted 3 years ago. And the first version was posted in August 2010. How time flies!
Ronster said:
as it is in the original it just looks like he is just following them without any thought of blowing them up.
Right. Because he has orders not to blow them up.
i really love 90% of the canyon scene, but I do have one issue with it.
In the original, the camera following the MF in the second shot does a bit of a turn and rotates slightly, mirroring the path of the Falcon, like the camera swoops ever so slightly. This helps create dynamic tension. Your shot is a steady track forward. Even though the camera moves at the same speed, the dynamic motion is missing, and so it feels "slower."
I know it's probably too late to re-film it, but I would always regret not telling you in case there was a chance to tweak it.
Keep up the great work, Ady!
Bingowings said:
Like the Death Star goof couldn't that just happen in real life?
Of course, but a real Stormtrooper would've taken a second to fix his helmet, whereas an extra can't do anything to draw attention to himself, so he just walks out of the scene with his helmet askew which is silly.
Tomorrow morning I climb in cab of the 14' U-Haul truck I packed all day today and begin my one-way trip east, moving from Chicago to New Jersey. I've been in a long-distance relationship for the past 2 years, and it's finally coming to an end. The distance, not the relationship. :) I took a great job out there with a company where I can build a serious career, and that job starts on April 14. A lot of big, sort of scary, changes. I'm feeling a lot of different things right now. Been saying goodbye to friends and family for the last week. Leaving a lot of people behind, but what's waiting for me at the other end is worth it.
I always thought ray was afraid, but I'm not sure of what.
(Does it take anyone else a long time after clicking "reply with quote" for the page to load? It's seems like it's always been very slow for me. Too slow to wait this time.)
iamweasel, why u trollin. You're at originaltrilogy.com arguing that it isn't worth restoring the OUT at 4K because a) it wouldn't look very good, and b) not enough people would buy it. Them's fightin words, son.
Scanning a 35mm film print for a 4K digital intermediate is not really anything like converting 2D to 3D. You think a film has to be shot in 4K to be 4K, and that also isn't true. Even though 35mm film is just shy of 4K, you have to scan the print at 8K to properly resolve the grain and produce an accurate 4K DI. The OUT would look fantastic given a proper 4K restoration, like the recent Lawrence of Arabia blu-ray. Enough people would buy it to make it worthwhile financially. And they could use some good will points heading into this sequel trilogy gamble.
But seriously, the ESB:R page is nowhere to bring this "not worth it" idea.
.Mac. said:
Their purpose is for a little extra detail and excitement
I think this deserves to be repeated. Let's not let reality get too far in the way of entertainment. I want to watch ESB:R and say, "YEAAAHHH!" not, "Those speeder flaps are conforming to the laws of physics perfectly." This is art and entertainment, not a documentary.
adywan said:
Jacen said:
How's that big-ass computer monitor working for you, Ady?
:)
It's still working great, thanks Jacen :)
Today i filmed the very last shot for the speeder flaps. Had some disasters along the way ( the paint deciding to react with the under-painting and bubble up all of a sudden on the 5 paint job, where it has been fine for the 4 previous ones, for example), but it pretty much went a lot smoother than it could have gone. The very final shot was for Wedge's screen right speeder flap. The final shot became the only one that didn't need a second or third take. I got it in one. Now to stick it into the composite and get the last few shots for this section completed............
And here is a short clip of the flaps in action.....
For some reason the video won't load for me. I'm on a Windows laptop, using Chrome. Says "Facebook Internal Video - Unavailable. This video is only accessible from within the corporate network or VPN."
Very weird.
EDIT: None of FB's videos are loading for me. I'll try again later.
The Emperor would know about Luke Skywalker by this point. He's the guy that blew up the friggin Death Star. Word gets around.
Well I know someone who's not getting any spaghetti.
Unlimited Bags has a nicer ring to it than Limited Discs.
mrbenja0618 said:
muddyknees2000 said:
Allow me to clarify that. The SHOOTING of the new canyon is complete. Integrating it into the film is still ongoing.
Allow ME to clarify that the COOKING of the noodles is complete.
Integrating it into the spaghetti sauce is still ongoing.
I don't have time to walk all the way downstairs to the kitchen, can someone tell me how soon we might expect dinner to be released?
Amen, muddyknees! I actually feel like very few fan-edits are about "changing the films so they are different." Most fan-edits I've watched, and the ones I like the most, are the ones that are intended to improve a film by cutting, restructuring, or restoring, not by making different. Add to that that these edits are executed by editors with a very clear vision that is consistent in both the wide scope of the entire piece and in the details that make it up. The best fan-editors are able to do what professional editors do: get in the heads of the actual filmmakers and maintain what is true in the spirit and letter of the work. It's not a question of "what would be awesome?", it's a question of "what would be correct?"
That's not to say that radical revisions can't be interesting, but that's not the vision adywan has for Revisited, and the best suggestions tend to be the ones that fit that vision.
Reegar said:
The man makes one detail-oriented suggestion and people leap on him. Well, Adywan's edits do in fact revolve around detail much of the time.
It's hardly "one" suggestion. I'm sorry, it must be 40 or 50 suggestions from Ronster in the last few months, and all but a couple are totally ridiculous.
Google Drive is a great way to share files between trusted friends, but would be rubbish for this, considering there are people actively trying to get adywan's work removed from the internet.
Have you tried Dailymotion, adywan? I've watched every Doctor Who Confidential episode on there and that's the kind of thing that gets removed quickly on YouTube.
I FINK U FREEKY - Die Antwoord
So... weird. can't... look away...
ImperialFighter said:
If I get you right Ronster, I think you're trying to describe a *very slightly* more gradual 'gradient' of blue aura/haze/atmosphere effect around Hoth in certain closer shots of it. Like say, there would be a quite pronounced shade of blue nearest to the surface of the planet, which would then fade gradually out to even more transparent and slightly less noticeable 'shades' of faint blueness against the blackness of space.
If I'm getting you right on that, then I agree, despite some of the pic examples above giving differing results. It's quite a subtle effect, but it can make a difference. And it would apply more to shots of Hoth that are nearer to us. While that would be a nice, if very, very subtle addition, it's no biggie I reckon.
The thing is, ImperialFigher, that's not haze or atmosphere in the pic Ronster posted. It's bloom created by light convolving inside the imperfect camera lense, caused by close proximity to the planet. It's the same effect as if you hold a light close up to your face in a dark room, the light bounces around inside the lens of your eye and so you get a bleeding effect around it. It's an optical illusion.
I hate to belabor the point, but I'm just trying to get across that this is not a matter of atmospherics, it's a camera artifact. Sophisticated cameras and image-processing can eliminate this light bleed, so it's not right or wrong for the image to have it, but it's a lot less likely to be apparent at a distance, because the planet appears less bright. In the image below, the sun is the brightest source of light, so it has an aura, while the Earth, as a result, has a clean boundary.
