R2D2

I doubt that the current pitch of voices on PAL video (VHS, Laserdisc, DVD) is incorrect. If you slow down the 25 fps to 24 fps none of the voices does sound natural any more. Leia sure doesn't sound like a woman any more!

I have heard star wars avi files of german audio run at 23,976 speed. It's unwatchable - actually unhearable!

I doubt that home video release in PAL don't feature the original pitch of voices. People would remember the difference frequencies of the actors between hearing them in cinemas and hearing them at home. This 4% are very easy detected, especially if you are familiar to the voice of the actors.

I think for the studios it's quite easy to create two seperate audio tracks because you have the audio track without the voices to begin with and just insert the actor voices at certain timestamps. The speed of the voice track however doesn't necessarely have to match the speed of the main track.

Blurays features the original 24fps but the pitch (frequency) of the voice actors don't change! If there was an international cinema release you can bet that the voice actor do sound on PAL DVD as they sound on Bluray.

I will reactivate my starwars hdd this week and hopefully find all the stuff 'krieg der sterne' related. If I remember right, I have kept all those captures of the crawls, at least from the vhs videos (I was never able to play my Laserdiscs).

I am looking forward in any attempt to recreate the german cinema experience.

@grisan: Please keep the laserdisc Logos at the beginning somehow included, if at least as a bonus feature or share it here like the 1982 LD release. Such things are part of german star wars history as well.

Hi guys!

Well, I wasn't really lucky with LD-Players. Bought 2 of them via ebay, both stated in working condition, both of them not working after shipping. My motivation in buying a 3rd LD Player is like zero.

I have all the german Star Wars LD sets at home but can't play them.

TV's Frink said:

Wow, is this an ot.com record necrobump?

Also, I lol'd at this:

R2D2 said:

I am from Austria (Schwarzenegger,Mozart,...)

Many mix up Austria (state in Europe) and Australia (continentm, kangaroo), that is why I added the info here.

skyjedi2005 said:

The original German dub was archived on the German gout, now out of print as is the japan release and the USA release.

Too late to buy new copies.

The USA release is still easy enough to get through second hand sellers on Amazon.com, but unless you live in the UK getting the UK release is next to impossible, the same with wanting to own any other regions release or countries.

I have all three movie discs of the German GOUT. The audio however is not without errors (see thread history).

Seeing Star Wars in german is not only about having another audio track running, it's about having the german title crawl, german alien subtitles, and it even had german credits at the end.

Dunedain said:

It would be cool if a German Star Wars fan with the German GOUT DVD set would make the German Dolby Digital 2.0 soundtrack available, then the PAL audio speed up could be reversed and it could be synched to the U.S NTSC GOUT video.

That would be really interesting to watch, since the Empire is based on the German military. And the German Darth Vader is *awesome*, far superior voice. :)

If you reverse the PAL audio speed up you will get a slower (deeper) voice of everybody, which doesn't feature the original voice frequencies. Instead of seeing a NTSC version of German GOUT for NTSC countries who barely speak the language I would prefer a PAL version with at least the german text crawl reinserted.

I know the X9 is a NTSC only device but so far no one has released the original trilogy in any other languages than english. the german gout dvds for example suck.

the german audio track on it is missing stuff, and it's ac3 only. instead of the german title crawls that have been made and shown in the cinemas the gout dvds use the english title crawl and have the german translation as dvd subtitles. so weak. 

from the official site:
http://www.starwars.com/movies/saga/bluraymay4/index.html

"Fans will get an exclusive first look at some of the collection's extensive special features at this year's San Diego Comic-Con International -- which marks Lucasfilm's 35th anniversary as a Comic-Con presence. In 1976, the fledgling film company was looking for innovative, grass-roots ways to promote its underdog release, a film no one expected to succeed -- a space opera known (at the time) only as Star Wars. One of the first film companies to reach out directly to core audiences by way of fan conventions, Lucasfilm will return to the venue to showcase the full evolution of the epic story with a special first look at STAR WARS: THE COMPLETE SAGA ON BLU-RAY. "

asterisk8 said:

We already know the truth. Lucas thinks one day everyone who saw the OOT will be dead and all that will be left are people who grew up with flashy CGI. He's pandering to children from the future.

If all people, who saw & appreciate the OOT, will be dead, he won't make any profit releasing his "holy grail" to the public. So my guess is there will be a release at some time because he is into the money!

Don't you find it interesting that the official site for US users gives specs of having 6.1 DTS Surround Sound and explicitely leaves out the fact that it might be DTS-HD, while the official site for german users gives specs of 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio.

DTS Facebook now released the info that the US discs will feature DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1.

The THX Demo DVD featuring Star Wars Episode 1 Clips was mastered in 6.1 DTS Surround Sound already, so the audio master might be from that time of period or even older.

My summary this far:
'Everything will be revealed' can't be any more wrong. We basically know nothing about this release yet. I won't buy this set!

Harmy said:

Bingowings said:

GOUT 2020 in PostageStampOrama (TM), the LD Transfers now with even thicker boarders.

THE ORIGINAL THEATRICAL VERSION OF STAR WARS ON BLU-RAY FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! HERE'S THE FIRST SCREENSHOT!!!

:-D

Imagine the following trailer:

For an entire generation people have experienced Star Wars the only way it has been possible, in the Special Edition.

But if you've only seen it this way, you haven't seen it at all!

Now after decades of wasted time in changing perfect movies.

See the Oscar winning original theatrical version.

With its original visual effects.

With its original Sound and Score.

And no more surprises!

just a quick note:

40+ hours of bonus features minus 24 hours of audio commentaries gives us 16 hours remaining special features. the more detailed described disc 9 contains around 7 hours leaving 9 hours of special features.

this means disc 7 and disc 8 will contain around 9 hours of special features together.

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i don't understand why lucasfilm can't get it right. they miss a really great opportunity. why release the movies without video commentaries or multi angles? i remember reading interviews in which GL talked about the need to wait for the advantages of the blu-ray technology - where he can show us the bluebox version, the preliminary animated version, the final version of each and every scene of the entire saga. it looks like after all this waiting we won't be getting this!

'dts 6.1 surround sound' is dvd niveau, high-def sound would be called 'DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1'. strange.

what i am expecting after seeing this spelling error on the doc-title is another rushed & pressured release. what such a release would really need is once more missing: love and passion for doing it well.

30 hours of Special Features in marketing language means the following thing:

6 movies a 2 hours, each with an audio-commentary, equals 12 hours of bonus features.

If they add another audio-commentary, another 12 hours is 'away'.

So in worst case: only 6 hours of footage besides audio stuff will be featured, spread over 3 BDs.

Btw: the official Blu-Ray Teaser is now avaiable in 720p:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JLltQkcHZys

Watch official Pinky Lightsabers in HD.

Thanks for posting!!!!

someone has posted it on a.b.starwars. Thanks a lot!

Hello all!

I have just bought a Laserdisc Player via ebay. This time I wanna make sure, the player still works after the Transport.

Does anyone has some knowledge about Transport Screws / Parking Position on Pioneer devices? The player I bought is the CLD-1600.

With BR, R2D2

Shouldn't we at least expect a quality like the alternate cloud city scene with han/leia, which was of quite good quality and released in 2004, within the empire of dreams doc. this was a decent 480p anamorph release.

i have posted the thx ultimate demo disc on a.b.starwars.

Hello there!

I have just posted the in Depth commentary of Episode I on a.b.starwars. I manually saved the content and change the html/css back then in order that it is playable without internet access and looks more pretty. You will need to install the dvd software provided on the disc.

Sadly, I didn't get the other text commentaries .

You can grab the commentary from rapidshare as well:

http://rapidshare.com/files/390123539/starwars_episode_1_dvd.starwars.com_official_text_commentary.zip.html">http://rapidshare.com/files/390123539/starwars_episode_1_dvd.starwars.com_official_text_commentary.zip.htmlhttp://rapidshare.com/files/390123539/starwars_episode_1_dvd.starwars.com_official_text_commentary.zip.html

The goal would be to create a dvd (blu-ray) subtitle track out of it.

BR, R2D2

Hi Jambe Davdar!

Would it be helpful if I provide the THX Ultimate Demo Disc? It contains the same on-set audio sequences as the THX Wow Laserdisc only with better image quality. Watching Youtube Part 1 seems like it does use the Laserdisc quality version.

BR, R2D2

R2D2 presents

Star Wars Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith

German TV-Reports Collection Volume 2:

May 20th - June 19th 2005

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R2D2 präsentiert -

Star Wars Episode 3 Die Rache der Sith

TV-Berichte Sammlung Teil 2:

20. Mai - 19. Juni 2005

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About the Release:

This is my collection of Star Wars TV-Reports and TV-Footage, broadcasted on Television in Germany.

The time area of the broadcastings is around the premiere of Star Wars Episode 3 - Revenge of the Sith.

This is a fan-made dvd, not meant for sale!!!

Have Fun and enjoy!

Your R2D2

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F e a t u r e d B r o a d c a s t i n g s

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20.5. Viva Film ab 0:23:10

History on the Star Wars hype

Movie Clips and Behind the Scenes from SWEP3

Filmfevistal de Cannes Footage

Germany-Premiere in Berlin

Spaceballs - THE Parody

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22.5. Pro7 Making of 0:22:19

Movie Clips and Behind the Scenes from SWEP3

Germany-Premiere in Berlin

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22.5. Pro7 Focus Tv 0:11:31

featuring Star Wars Merchandising

with Footage from...

Germany-Premiere in Berlin

SWEP3

Hasbro Toys

Premiere in Düsseldorf, Germany

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19.6. MTV Movie Awards 2005 0:04:14

featuring...

Star Wars Episode III Spoof in English.

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DVD-Specs:

Type: DVD-5

Size: 4.327.880 KB

Video: PAL, MPEG-2 VBR, 720 x 576, 25 fps

Audio: Dolby Digital 2.0, 192 Kbps

Language: German

Subtitles: no dvd-subtitles during broadcasts

Menu Feature: yes

DVD-Rom Content: none

Protection: regioncode-free

Source: Broadcastings, analog Cable TV

Air Date: between May 20th and June 19th 2005

Production Date: December 2005

Release Date: April 30th 2010

Release Type: Newsgroup alt.binaries.starwars

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Used Hardware/Software:

* WINTV-PVR 150

* Avisynth

* CCE-SP

* SonicFoundry SoftEncode Dolby Digital

* DVD Maestro

?

Checkout:

www.originaltrilogy.com and their petition for a proper restoration of the theatrical cuts of the original Star Wars trilogy.

You are welcome 'none'!

Well, there were several reasons to hold the release back at first place: Copyright Issues, no Usenet Account, bad Upload Speed. But somehow George seems to tolerate these releases in some way.

I will try to release Volume 2 until the end of the week. It contains another 60min of TV-Footage from that time area.

R2D2 presents

Star Wars Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith

German TV-Reports Collection Volume 1:

April 17th - May 18th 2005

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R2D2 präsentiert -

Star Wars Episode 3 Die Rache der Sith

TV-Berichte Sammlung - Teil 1:

17. April - 18. Mai 2005

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About the Release:

This is my collection of Star Wars TV-Reports and TV-Footage, broadcasted on Television in Germany.

The time area of the broadcastings is around the premiere of Star Wars Episode 3 - Revenge of the Sith.

This is a fan-made dvd, not meant for sale!!!

Have Fun and enjoy!

Your R2D2

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F e a t u r e d B r o a d c a s t i n g s

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17.4. Pro7 Focus TV 0:21:15

Short history on Star Wars

Movie Clips of SWEP3

Star Wars Episode III Behind the Scenes

ILM Hilmar Koch interview

Utapau CGI Creation

Creating General Grievous

Anthony Daniels interview

Sound-Mixing with Matthew Wood

Fanfilm Tydirium

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28.4. Pro7 taff 0:01:11

Star Wars Episode III Soundtrack premieres.

Behind the Scenes look on the Musical Journey.

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29.4. RTL2 News 0:02:12

Star Wars Episode III Soundtrack premieres.

Behind the Scenes look on the Musical Journey.

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11.5. arte KurzSchluss - Das Magazin 0:13:45

George Lucas - review on the beginnings of his

career. The time before Star Wars.

Movie Clips of SWEP3

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13.5. BR5 kinokino 0:01:17

World Premiere on the Festival de Cannes 2005

Movie Clips of SWEP3

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13.5. ZDF Mittagsmagazin 0:03:24

Premiere in Washington.

Movie Clips of SWEP3

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14.5. ARD Tigerentenclub 0:17:15

Children Television Show featuring

Movie Clips and Behind the Scenes from SWEP3

Anthony Daniels as live guest star.

Fan club German Garrison Members as live guests

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17.5. ARD nachtmagazin 0:03:08

Germany-Premiere in Berlin

with George Lucas, Hayden Christensen,

Natalie Portman and Christopher Lee.

Movie Clips of SWEP3

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18.5. ZDF drehscheibe Deutschland 0:03:40

Germany-Premiere in Berlin

Movie Clips of SWEP3

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18.5. ZDF leute Heute 0:02:41

Germany-Premiere in Berlin

Movie Clips of SWEP3

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18.5. NBC Giga 0:03:36

featuring ...

Star Wars Unsung Hero Edition:

The Lightsaber Maker & Boba Fett

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18.5. Kika Live 0:09:48

Children Television Show featuring

Movie Clips and Behind the Scenes from SWEP3

Fan Club German Garrison Members as live guests

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18.5. BR5 kinokino 0:01:29

World Premiere on the Festival de Cannes 2005

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18.5. 3sat Kulturzeit 0:06:40

Germany-Premiere in Berlin

Movie Clips and Behind the Scenes from SW

Movie Clips from SWEP3

Fan Film Operation Incom

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DVD-Specs:

Type: DVD-5

Size: 4.217.080 KB

Video: PAL, MPEG-2 VBR, 720 x 576, 25 fps

Audio: Dolby Digital 2.0, 192 Kbps

Language: German

Subtitles: no dvd-subtitles during broadcasts

Menu Feature: yes

DVD-Rom Content: none

Protection: regioncode-free

Source: Broadcastings, analog Cable TV

Air Date: between April 17th and May 18th 2005

Production Date: December 2005

Release Date: April 27th 2010

Release Type: Newsgroup alt.binaries.starwars

?

Used Hardware/Software:

* WINTV-PVR 150

* Avisynth

* CCE-SP

* SonicFoundry SoftEncode Dolby Digital

* DVD Maestro

?

Checkout:

www.originaltrilogy.com and their petition for a proper restoration of the theatrical cuts of the original Star Wars trilogy.