Nien Nunb

Does anyone know what sound mix was on the Image DVD? I used to have it but I gave it away years ago.

I would think the Signature Edition box set should have the Mono track as well.

I may be mistaken but I thought the 5.1 mix was created in 2000 for the films 25th Anniversary DVD release? So any editions prior to 2000 should be Mono.

stretch009 said:

Nien Nunb said:

I doubt will ever be a full screen HD release of anything, let alone BTTF.

 

Unless I'm interpreting this wrong this seems incorrect.  Older movies like 'It's a Wonderful Life' and Disney's 'Alice in Wonderland' for example are full screen and HD and I know many more are too.

 

 

Sorry, I was referring to full screen versions of films that were intended to be presented theatrically in widescreen. Obviously Films Like The Wizard of Oz and Casablanca will remain in their proper aspect ratios.

I finally got the Annie Blu-Ray the other day after having put it off for the last few months, and the reports I’ve been hearing that there were missing sound effects definitely seem to be true, There are indeed a handful sounds missing throughout the film. the one I immediately noticed was when Annie beating up the dog bullies in the alley, the grunts of the last boy are missing as he is being punched by Annie.

I was wondering, how difficult would it be to drop in the missing bits of audio into the Blu-Ray’s DTS-HD Master track, using the Pan & Scan DVD’s 5.1 DTS track as a source? I don’t really have any experience with this.

It seems like this movie is probably never going to get a perfect release, but the Blu-Ray is definitely the best home video release there has been for this film, audio issues aside.

I doubt will ever be a full screen HD release of anything, let alone BTTF.

There is a Full Screen DVD release of the Trilogy though, Which is probably the best quality release there will be considering P&S/Full Screen is pretty much dead.

I actually have this release as I also grew up with the full screen versions as well and at the time because of the highly publicized framing errors of the Widescreen release, of which I also had but never sent in for corrected replacements, So I picked up a used copy of the Full Screen set like a year later at a Video Game Shop.

How convenient that this thread is currently on the subject of defective discs, as I've just gotten through trying to play my UE DVD copy of From Russia With Love on 4 different Blu-Ray players and after about 20 minutes of dicking around with my living room player it's finally playing. First it wasn't recognizing the disc at all and kept spitting it out, then it was recognizing it as a data disc, then finally it randomly started to p0lay.

It seems this particular disc has alot of trouble playing on Blu-Ray players, it seems to play on a regular DVD player just fine.

One thing that has annoyed me greatly about collecting Hitchcock on DVD over the years is that out of the 100s of DVDs I own, his films literally seem to be the only ones I've ever had a problem with the disc having a defect that renders it unable to play properly.

I was watching a cheap public domain compilation of his earlier work the other day when all of the sudden it started to freeze and skip which, being it's a $5 bargain bin set didn't surprise me too much but it reminded me that I still do not even own a copy of my favorite Hitch film Notorious, because the earlier editions that are out of print were kind of pricey the last time I checked, and when the 2008 Premiere collection box set from Fox came out I refused to buy it because of the large number of defective discs that were reported.

Also, I didn't even get a copy of North by Northwest until my Birthday in like 2008, by which time it had been re-released in an Amaray case. I figured surely by then the layer change error which affected early pressings and rendered the 2nd half of the film unplayable had surely been fixed, but sure enough it was a defective copy and it conveniently went out of print days after I got it.

I just find it strange that there seems to be such a widespread case of defective DVDs released years apart by different studios by one specific filmmaker. a highly celebrated and respected one no less.

BTW, I was thinking of getting Notorious on Blu, but I heard the transfer sucks. can anyone verify the quality?

Yeah, Those P&S abominations from Sony are God awful. I had the P&S only release of Last Action Hero at one time and although I can sometimes tolerate watching full screen if no other option is available, that version was completely unwatchable with it's horrible electronic panning. I eventually found a used copy of the earlier flipper disc release and tossed the pan & scam copy into the trash where it belongs.

Also, Annie is one of my personal favorite films and I am still irked by the fact that I cannot purchase a decent copy of the film. I didn't even bother with the Anniversary disc after finding out it was P&S only, and even the earlier flipper release had a crappy widescreen transfer from what I've heard.

There is going to be a showing of Blade Runner at my local Theater on Friday at midnight, Me and 2 friends are going and I'm curious to see which version it will be and what the source is.

Speaking of James Cameron, has there ever been an HD broadcast of True Lies? That is another film that has only ever had a bare-bones non-anamorphic DVD release with a laserdisc sourced transfer.

Yes, The Director's Cut that is on Disc 3 of the 5 disc Blu-Ray is the one I was thinking of. I've only seen the version on HDNet once but I know they've shown it several times.

That is interesting, I didn't think the HD broadcast looked much different from the Blu-Ray the last time I saw it.

I'm pretty sure the HD broadcast in question is the same version that still airs from time to time on HDNet.

It's really nothing special, it looks to me like the same transfer as the Blu-Ray but with compression artifacts.

Yes, The Embassy VHS of the International Cut is the one I'm talking about.

Don't get me wrong, the transfers on the box set are amazing, it's just that the colors on older transfers seem to differ from them greatly so I've been questioning how accurate the colors actually are on that set. It's still an amazing set though and the colder look is probably more appropriate for the film anyway. The original Director's Cut DVD is an awful transfer, but it was the only version I had seen for several years so I always associate the film with alot of oranges and browns.

The International Cut VHS has more in common with the old Director's Cut DVD transfer than any of the newer ones, but it also looks quite different from any other transfer, which is why I'm curious to see what the Criterion laserdisc looks like.

Didn't Embassy put out a laserdisc too? I wonder if it's the same transfer as the VHS.

As I was watching a transfer of my Blade Runner VHS the other day it occurred to me that every release that I have seen of this film has had significantly different color timing.

Now I have never seen the criterion laserdisc so i have no idea what that one looks like but between the Embassy VHS, the '97 Director’s Cut DVD, and the archival cuts included in the box set, the colors vary wildly between each transfer.

I have never seen any version in a theater so I have no point of reference on that front, but as I was watching the VHS transfer I noticed a few scenes that looked significantly different than any subsequent transfer, most notably the scene when Deckard and Bryant were screening the replicants.

in the VHS the coloring was heavily shifted towards brown and the light reflection on Bryant’s head was orange, whereas the colors in all other transfers including the 1992 Director’s Cut (which has more of a red orange shift than any other transfer) lean much more heavily towards blue with the light reflections being white.

What I’d really like to know is which color timing is the most accurate to the original theatrical release. personally i’m kind of partial to the look of the first director’s cut DVD although I know that it is generally regarded as a horrible transfer and is probably nowhere near accurate but it was the first version I saw and is the look I most associate with the film.

My primary computer is down at the moment but when it is back up and running I can do screen captures to demonstrate what I am talking about if anyone is interested.

Other notable differences I spotted in the VHS:

-The Tree in the opening Ladd Company logo is gray rather than green.

-The part at the beginning when Deckard is ordering food, the lights behind the Asian guy are orange rather than white.

Has anyone else noticed that the end credits for the first film on Blu-Ray seem to be incorrectly displayed? They appear to be vertically squished and I don't recall them ever looking this way on any past transfer I've ever seen.

I know they changed a few things back to the way they were in the theatrical release like the "Coming Summer 1990" tag in Part II so I don't know for sure if this was an intentional change or not, but it certainly doesn't look like it.

I didn't want to start an entirely new topic for this but I've never seen this issue addressed anywhere.

Wouldn't it be illegal though for a random theater to edit a film at their own discretion without permission?

SilverWook said:

On the flip side, I saw a promo on AMC for E.T.'s 30th anniversary, and the walkie talkies are gone! The last couple times I've seen it on tv, it was the 2002 verison.

 

Really? Do you know which network was showing it? I haven't seen the 2002 version in quite a long time. The version that HBO has been showing in HD for the last few years is the 1982 version.

Alright, I've been reading a little more into the different endings and I'm still confused.

Was the shark impalement/Jake dies ending only in test screenings theatrically or was it in the general release theatrical version as well, and was the exploding shark/Jake lives ending shot for the general theatrical release or for the home video version?

The versions of all 4 films that just came on Spike were also on one of the HD movie channels around the time of the 35th anniversary, though I can't remember which one. They were commercial free with a small watermark periodically appearing onscreen being the only logo.

doubleofive said:

 

Nien Nunb said:

I've always wanted to see the BBC cut though, it sounds hilariously bad with all of the exposed effects.

I don't see how it could be more hilariously bad than it is already! LOL

 

You do have a point, lol. I've just always been curious to see the open matte version though, I just can't believe that anyone would show a version of any film to the public with all of the mechanical effects plainly visible.

This film has always confused me with all of it's different versions. I still haven't even figured out which cut is the true theatrical version.

I have the GoodTimes and Universal DVDs, I used to have the AMC cut recorded on a DVR years ago but for some reason I never burned it onto a DVD before I wiped everything off of there.

I've always wanted to see the BBC cut though, it sounds hilariously bad with all of the exposed effects.

Just wondering, Has there ever been an HD transfer of The Matrix from before it was re timed for the Ultimate Collection Box Set?

As great as the Blu-Ray looks, The extreme green tint is kinda distracting at times and I much prefer the original look of the film.

buddy-x-wing said:

R2D2 said:

SilverWook said:

buddy-x-wing said:

I just wish there was some kind of audio commentary or someone to explain to me , that after 30 years why Han's Line in EMPIRE "You could use a good kiss!" was cut from the Blue Ray? I just wanna hear some kind of logical explanation as to how deleting that line ADDS anything or IMPROVES the quality of the movie?  it's like cutting out the punchline of the joke??

Does George really hate HAN SOLO that much that he needs to water down his character at every turn?

I just want to hear the rationale that went into making the decision to remove the line, because now all I hear is the gap where it used to be.

 

I hope this is a joke, or one hell of a audio remixing mistake!

 

I just heard the line on the blu ray. still there.

it's not on my blue ray copy

 

I would say your copy must be defective then, I would definitely return it if you are absolutely certain it is missing.

I just watched ESB and I can confirm without a doubt that the line IS infact still there, I made a point to look for it after reading here that it was missing.

I don't know why but when I put in the 3rd bonus disc, all of the features that are in SD play as a tiny little picture in the top left hand corner of my screen instead of in the center with bars on the sides, almost like a picture in picture kinda thing. It's really annoying and I can't figure out how to fix it, if anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate them greatly.

Also, I don't know if it's just my player or what but this seems to only happen with Fox titles, My Alien Anthology does this same thing with the director's intros when I watch the alternate cuts but they played normally when I tried them on my dad's player.