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#337707
Topic
Lord of the Rings on Blu Ray
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zombie84 said:

"look at how CLEAN this is! Its not dirty! Its really SHARP! You can SEE everything really clear!"

 

Are you implying that crystal clarity is an inherently bad thing? Okay, let's flip the argument around. Instead of "Why should we remove grain?" let's ask "Why shouldn't movies have the picture quality of a polished mirror?" And I'm not talking about movies that already exist. I'm talking about for films that have yet to be made.

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#337247
Topic
Lord of the Rings on Blu Ray
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ChainsawAsh said:

I understand your argument, but as a preservationist, I can't accept it - that's like saying that old effects should be updated to meet current technological standards because it's ugly in comparison to what we see now. While there are those who would argue for that, the concept horrifies me.

 

I don't see that as the same argument at all. Old effects, ugly or not, were deliberately added. The directors didn't have a choice of whether the grain was there or not. If grain were deliberately added by the filmmakers, then I would be against removing it, because its presence was a conscious choice. However, with natural grain, there was no choice. Yes, they could choose between different film stocks for variations in the grain level, but they didn't have the opportunity to buy No Grain Film Stock (C).

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#337225
Topic
Lord of the Rings on Blu Ray
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ChainsawAsh said:

Oh, and about film grain - saying you're not a fan of film grain is like saying that you're not a fan of pixels in HD video.  The only difference is that pixels in HD cannot change at all, while film grain is a chemical process that does change, even on the same shot.

I think you know what I meant: the tiny little spots that litter the picture and are not simply dirt particles. In my opinion, what matters is what was meant to be in the shot, what was meant to be seen. In other words, the actors, the sets, the props, and whatever special effects that are added in post. Anything and everything else must go. That's why I like Lowry. Not only does it remove the offending spots, but it fills them in with what most likely would have been there. I'd rather see simulated perfection than actual imperfection. Then again, I can understand the concerns of most of the people here (preservation of the films original form), but I'm a person who's more interested in aesthetics than historical preservation. Two different mindsets, that's all.

But thanks for the rundown on film detail. It was very interesting. So, by the time we reach Ultra-HD (that experimental format with... 7680x4320 resolution, I think), will we have basically hit the detail "ceiling"?

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#337176
Topic
Lord of the Rings on Blu Ray
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Jay said:

Peter Jackson has said in interviews that he's been working on the Blu-ray release. I think we'll see them at some point next year, most likely as a box set with all three films. Hopefully we get the extended cuts in addition to the theatrical cuts and Warner doesn't force us to double dip.

The films weren't shot with HD cams; they were shot on Super35. Film has a higher "resolution" than HD, so that's actually a good thing. I'm very concerned that the recent anti-grain trend will lead to digital noise reduction on these releases, which removes film grain--along with high frequency detail. It's been a problem on many recent Blu-ray releases because of misguided studios trying to make films look "clearer" and more like video.

I doubt they'll have to redo the CG from the ground up. It was most likely rendered at 2K resolution during post production, which is slightly higher than HD's 1920x1080.

 

Okay, so what is the resolution of 35mm film, then? I asked this film fanatic at my university and he said it was unlimited. Sorry for sounding like I'm jumping the gun, but I'm calling bullshit. A picture has to have a finite amount of detail. There has to be a point where scanning it at a higher resolution would only pick up flaws in the film stock, if that.

As for grain removal, I've voice my opinion several times on here that I am not a fan of grain. However, I realize that grain removal needs to be done competently, and DNR just doesn't cut it. I'd rather have a cloud of filth over the picture than have it blurred to fuck and back. If they're going to do it, I hope they use Lowry. No blurring of detail AND no grain.

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#337175
Topic
Inconsistent use of "the force"
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C3PX said:

When the term "canon" is used in context of a work of fiction, it typically means any work related to the original and created by or accepted by the original creator as an authentic part of the over all story of the fictional universe he created. All this crap about a-canon b-canon c-canon is BS used to legitimize the fact that ol' boy George wants to pull in more dough by accepting royalties from the selling of liscened SW novels, but also doesn't want to be confined by rules or events related to those novels. Which is fine, but why not disregard them as canon altogether, instead of this "different levels of canon" stuff. Canon is suppose to be what is offically accepted, it either is or is not.

That said, when we talk about real canon, it is what Lucas and official sources make it out to be. Sure, I mentioned my personal canon, but that is just a fancy way of saying the works I wish to accept as having happened in my own personal experience of the franchise. When we start changing the meanings of words, such as "canon" to mean what is most plausable or what makes the most sense, or what was set out first, we muddle the meaning to the point where it is no longer a useful word.

 

I agree that the creator defines canon, not the fans. I have my own personal canon as well, but I realize that in a debate, I have to adhere to the one held by the responsible parties. I don't know what VaderHayden's rant was about, but it seems he thinks himself able to judge what is "real" Star Wars and what is not. I think we can agree that he is mistaken. He simply doesn't have the right to make that decision.

Anyway, I agree that the whole GTCSN canon scale was contrived for the sake of appeasing both GL and the EU fans out there, but I think that to say that it betrays the meaning of "canon" is not necessarily true. The whole point of fictional canon is to define what is part of the story and what is not. Since such a designation is up to the creator (or his cronies), that means he/they can define such a system however they want, either in black-and-white terms like Star Trek (series and movies are canon, nothing else) or with a multi-tiered system that can throw out contradictory elements and rewrite itself (the canon scale used by LucasBooks). If a piece of information is not contradicted by another piece of information on a higher level (or by a decree from LucasBooks), it is "truth", just like the series and movies in Star Trek. The only difference is that this "truth" can be overwritten at a moments notice if a contradictory piece of information from higher up on the scale appears. Seems more orderly than the black-and-white approach, actually.

For example, what if there is a contradiction between a later ST series and an earlier ST series? There's no real precedent for which series holds the "truth", so it's really up to the fans. With SW, a lot of those concerns (not all, of course) are easy to sort out. Couple this with the fact that the writers for the EU are trying more and more to make everything gel, and the only wild cards SW deals nowadays are when GL tries something crazy (like the new TV series, which completely fucked the whole Clone Wars timeline up its ass) or when trying to reconcile really old EU information (like from the Marvel Comic series).

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#337052
Topic
I want my money back from the 04 DVDs and the prequels tickets.
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Gaffer Tape said:

This is one of those arguments that nobody can win because both sides are wrong and both sides are right. When you get right down to it, art is entirely subjective. There is no way to give an absolute evaluation of any type of art. However, because a large number of people can agree on what is good and what is bad, criteria has been established, and art can be valued against the criteria to come up with an assessment of its value based on these categories. While it is not perfect, studying art enough to come up with definable characteristics does lend credence to opinions rather than simply, "I may not know art, but I know what I like." It may be true, but it's impossible for the speaker to explain what it means to anybody else. People who define art as purely subjective might dismiss any kind of attempt to grade art as impossible or wrong. And those who believe art has to live up to at least a certain standard would argue that criteria are necessary for any type of discussion about art. What's probably true is that the answer is somewhere in between. As a certain user here wonderfully misquoted recently: "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody is one."

 


Well said. I am of a somewhat scientific mind, so the lack of a completely objective scale by which to measure the "quality" (whatever that is) of an artwork means I disregard any judgments about art that are stated as facts. Oh, and that was my quote! Yay, I'm famous!

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#336910
Topic
We should sue George Lucas.
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Vaderisnothayden said:

It's thoroughly reasonable for fans to get pissed off when a beloved classic is senselessly messed with in ways that totally don't fit.

 

 


In your humble opinion, of course. Other people think the added elements aren't intrusive at all. Are you saying they're wrong because they don't agree with you? Isn't that just a tad egocentric?

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#336716
Topic
Night Of The Living Dead Deleted Scenes
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ReverendBeastly said:

Those aren't deleted scenes. Those are scenes that John Russo, without any authorization or consent of George Romero of any kind, shot specifically for that DVD release, and then edited back into the movie. It's a joke, and a mean one at that.

 

Well, considering that Russo co-wrote the damn thing, I don't really think any consent was necessary. Granted, the new scenes were laughably bad, but that's neither here nor there.

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#336715
Topic
We should sue George Lucas.
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vote_for_palpatine said:

He caused the rift in SW fandom, didn't he?

 

This is the non-SW fan in me talking here, so don't get too upset: If the fans weren't so insane, there wouldn't have been a rift to begin with. Numerous other films have had major changes made to them years after the fact without their fanbases going ballistic. Most of the people who don't like it simply say "Well, that was unnecessary" and leave it at that. They'd even buy the new versions and deal with the additions (i.e. not start some [honestly] insignificant boycott).

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#336713
Topic
How to watch the Star Wars Saga?
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Vaderisnothayden said:

Better off to just leave out all the newer stuff. They're not real parts of Star Wars, they're just the spinoff crap tacked on later on. The only stuff worth showing one's kids is the OOT. If they want to discover the other stuff when they're older that's their business. Certainly they should see the OOT before anything else, because that's what was made first. Coming at Star Wars in any other order is unnatural.

 

 

And who are you to say they're not "real" (whatever that means)? GL says they're part of the story, so they're part of the story. Really, you can hate them all you want, but to say they're not "real" Star Wars because you don't like them is incredibly ignorant. You don't get to dictate what is and is not Star Wars.

Anyway, as for the topic of this thread. My preferred order is

 

A New Hope

The Holiday Special

The Empire Strikes Back

Return of the Jedi

The Phantom Menace

Attack of the Clones

Clone Wars (2003-2005)

Revenge of the Sith

 

The new Clone Wars movie raises more questions than it answers ("What happened to Ahsoka?", etc.), so I'd hold off until that storyline has a satisfactory conclusion before showing it to my kids.

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#336006
Topic
I want my money back from the 04 DVDs and the prequels tickets.
Time
skyjedi2005 said:

Good Luck on that! Lol. Seriously though I too wish i could get my money back for Indiana Jones IV. The critics in entertainment weekly gave it 3 out of 4 stars on their rating scale 4 of course being the highest. It is the critics job to tell you how awful a movie is. In the past they had lied about how great Revenge of the Sith was as well.

"Lied"? "How awful a movie is"? You do know that art is subjective, right? Are you saying the critics are wrong for not sharing your opinion?

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#334141
Topic
Happy Halloween!!
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I've always enjoyed a good scare, so Halloween is one of my favorite holidays. Since 2004, though, the highlight of the season has been going to see the next Saw movie. Being able to look forward to a new installment every year is a nice break from the two-to-three-year waits that accompany most of my favorite franchises. This goes double for my horror favorites, as most of them are lucky to see a movie every five or six years. Hard to believe it's been five years since Freddy vs. Jason. Now I have to deal with the fact that they're rebooting both franchises. That really sucks, because I like to see the progression of the story as the mythology builds up behind it (I'm the kind of person who can find depth and emotion in even the most shallow piece of cinematic trash). Seriously, all my favorites are starting over. First Texas Chainsaw Massacre back in '03, then Halloween in '07 (the single most disappointing film I've ever seen; even moreso than Matrix Revolutions), and now both Friday the 13th and Hellraiser are starting over next year, with A Nightmare on Elm Street and Child's Play in the planning stages.

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#333850
Topic
A brief, brief primer for the Living Dead series.
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I'm the go-to guy in my group of friends when it comes to horror movies, and one of my pals asked me about the Living Dead series and how many installments it had in it, etc. (he had been turning up "Living Dead" titles left and right on IMDb). So, I made up this brief essay on the topic and e-mailed it to him. Then I thought, "other people might find this interesting," so I decided to post it here. Enjoy!

A long time ago (1968) in a land far away (Pennsylvania), a thrilling saga began. But I'm here to talk about the Living Dead series. Anyway, most people think of George Romero as king of the zombie flick, and some of the people I know cite his Living Dead series as “the one that doesn't suck,” referring to other horror series natural propensity to become increasingly putrid with each sequel. Unfortunately, I then need to ask them if they've seen all of Dead films. Some would proudly proclaim that they've seen all four (now five, with the recent release of Diary of the Dead). I just laugh, shake my head, and lay this sucker on them: “There's sixteen films in the Living Dead series.” That's right, ladies and gentlemen: SIXTEEN. That's as much as Freddy and Jason's exploits combined, twice as many as Michael's, and going on three times as many as Leatherface's. You see, most people only make the connection between the five core films (the ones directed by Romero) and, occasionally, the remakes. In actuality, it's a bit more complicated than that.

While the original Night of the Living Dead was certainly Romero's baby, what most people don't realize is that he didn't write it alone. He had the help of the considerably less successful John Russo. I would think this gives him a legitimate claim to make official sequels. Now, the lawyers out there are probably screaming at me, saying “copyright law doesn't work like that!” Indeed it doesn't, but copyright laws aren't concerned here. Because of an absolutely idiotic blunder on the part of the distributors, Night of the Living Dead, one of the most sacred of modern horror classics, was never copyrighted. Aside from the ramifications concerning the payment of those involved, this also gave anyone free reign to make a sequel or remake. Surprisingly, though, in the decade that followed, no one did. At least, not on film. In 1977, Russo decided to cash in on the effort by writing a sequel novel, Return of the Living Dead. This little footnote to the franchise would have rather large ramifications eight years later. In 1978, the first sequel to NotLD, Dawn of the Dead, was released, and became a huge success. Fast forward to 1985, and a rather unusual situation presented itself. Realizing the Dead franchise wasn't so dead (*rimshot*), Russo decided he had as much a right as any to have a sequel made. Romero didn't see it that way, and after much legal finagling, they came to the conclusion that Romero would continue his own series with “of the Dead” at the end of each title. Meanwhile, Russo would release his little projects with “of the Living Dead” somewhere in the title.

Thus was born The Return of the Living Dead, an adaptation of Russo's 1977 novel, released the same year as Romero's own sequel Day of the Dead. Shades of Octopussy and Never Say Never Again. Of course, it was an adaptation of the novel in the same way Quantum of Solace is an adaptation of Ian Fleming's short story. That is, it's not an adaptation at all. The storylines don't bear even the vaguest of similarities, and while the novel played the zombie angle as straight as Romero's films, RotLD was little more than a slightly morbid comedy. And somehow, some way, it rocked. I think it may have something had to do with Linnea Quigley spending half her screentime completely naked. In the films, it is said that Night of the Living Dead was based on real events, and the Return series is therefore a sequel to these “real events”. While the original film suggested that raditation from a sattelite caused the dead to return, RotLD makes it abundantly clear that the culprit was a chemical agent known as 245 Trioxin. Also, the NotLD plague was apparently a local affair, quickly suppressed and kept under wraps from the public at large, as opposed to Romero's films, which show the same epidemic continuing wordwide over the course of around 37 years. For those who keep track of such trivialities (*coughMEcough*), we now have two divergent timelines, each stemming from the 1968 masterpiece. In 1988, Return of the Living Dead Part II was released, and firmly established “BRAINS!” as a zombie's favorite word. In 1990, Romero, feeling that he had made some errors in the script of the original NotLD (the characterization of the frustratingly useless Barbara being chief among them), did what few directors ever do: he wrote the script for a remake of his own film. While he neglected to direct, he produced the thing as well. What resulted was surprisingly forgettable (other than the appearance of Candyman Tony Todd as Ben). Lightning rarely strikes twice in the same place, I suppose.

In 1993, Return of the Living III came out and took the series in a surprising direction. That mother was DARK, man. While Romero's films have a theme of general bleakness for the future of humanity, RotLD3 was a very personal film, dealing with a young man who uses Trioxin to bring his dead girlfriend back to life. While there's plenty of gore for the hounds, this was easily the most emotionally touching film in the series, and the ending was nothing short of tragic. After this, though, the Dead series took an unusually long eight year hiatus (the longest since the NotLD-Dawn gap). In 2001, the Dead greeted the new millennium with the Russo-produced Children of the Living Dead, easily the most often forgotten installment in the series. It is somewhat unique, however, in that it is the only film thus far to have a single, easily distinguished zombie (the deceased serial killer Abbot Hayes) as the main villain of the story. It apparently takes place in the RotLD timeline, as the zombie outbreak of 1986 are referenced (it should be 1984, but it's obvious what they meant) and those of 1969 (the “true events” upon which NotLD were based) are even shown. Despite this, no mention is made of Trioxin, nor is it the catalyst for the epidemic in the movie's main story (a surviving zombie, Hayes, is responsible). Three years later, the remake of Dawn of the Dead was released. Apparently, though, it does not take place in the same continuity as the NotLD remake, as the zombie outbreak is recent and completely unknown to the characters involved. Romero, seeing that the time was right for another undead social commentary, released Land of the Dead, the fourth and, apparently, final installment in his original zombie series.

This was followed by (God help us all) two Sci-Fi original movies later that year, Return of the Living Dead: Necropolis and Return of the Living Dead: Rave to the Grave. They sucked. Let us speak no more of them. Worse than them, and most appalling to the hardcore fans, though, is the absolutely execrable Day of the Dead 2: Contagium. Most people tend not to include this in the list of films because it was made without either Romero or Russo's involvement. I include it simply because the makers had gotten ahold of Day's copyright, and thus were legally entitled to make a sequel. It sucks, though. It sucks so, SO hard. As for where it fits into the timeline, well, let's just say one of the movies MANY weaknesses is that it can't possibly fall in the same continuity as the movie it advertises itself as a sequel to! At first, I thought it may fall in RotLD's timeline, since the zombie outbreak of '68 (should be '69, but whatever) is unknown to the public and all is well. In addition, a military biological weapon is the cause of the zombie outbreak. However, the title suggests this is a bacterium or a virus, instead of a nerve agent like Trioxin. Can a nerve agent be called a contagium? The symptoms of the infected are different as well, but that's been a problem in all the RotLD movies. It may be in their timeline, or it may exist in yet a third, which it only shares with the original NotLD. The following year, 2006, saw someone FINALLY taking advantage of NotLD's public domain status for something besides selling piss-poor DVD transfers. Night of the Living Dead 3D benefited from the talent of the vastly underappreciated Sid Haig and a surprisingly solid cast of unknowns. The story tried its best to be something different from the original, and succeeded in becoming my favorite rendition of the story, despite the ridiculously cheesy 3D effects.

Figuring the franchise had been milked enough for the time being (six films in three years!), the Dead took a year off. 2008 saw the release of Romero's Diary of the Dead, which reboots his franchise, as the zombie plague is an unknown phenomenon instead of a 40-year-old crisis. The same goes for the Day of the Dead remake, also released in 2008. It does not follow from Dawn '04, despite sharing a lead actor (in another role), and stands on its own. That brings us to the present. To recap:


................Dawn78---Day85---LotD
............../
NotLD68
..............\
................RotLD---RotLD2---RotLD3---CotLD---Necropolis---RttG---Contagium

With NotLD90, Dawn04, NotLD3D, Diary, and Day08 each having a separate continuity. Now, was that so hard?

...

I need a drink.

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#331425
Topic
Anything higher than 1080p for consumer HD?
Time

Well, in theory, you could fit just about any resolution video onto a disc (however, the higher you get, the less video will fit on the disc). Problem is, what are you gonna play it on? The best TVs out there are limited to 1080p, so it doesn't matter how many extra pixels the video has. It will downsize to 1080p so the TV will be able to display it.

Come to think of it, at what point will increasing the resolution become pointless? I mean, as far as old movies go. A 35mm frame doesn't hold an infinite amount of detail. Eventually, upping the resolution will do little more than expose flaws in the film, making the picture worse than it was before.

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#329470
Topic
The most godawful sequel?
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NOTE: I'm extending this topic to include prequels, midquels, interquels, and remakes.

 

Now, I know a lot of you are going to jump in immediately and nominate the PT, but think about it for a moment. Nostalgia and the superior quality of the OT aside, are they honestly the ABSOLUTE WORST continuations of a series you've ever seen? I thought not. My personal picks are:

 

Jaws: The Revenge [The sheer technical ineptitude is unforgivable]

Halloween 2007 [Loaded with totally unnecessary foul language and tit shots. Slashers are about BLOOD!]

Hellraiser: Hellseeker [Would have been excellent if it had made any sense whatsoever]

Highlander II: The Quickening [Do you honestly need an explanation?]

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation [MY GOD! The horror... the absolute lack of horror!]

AVP: Requiem [It's worse than the first one. IT'S WORSE THAN THE FIRST ONE!!!!]

Day of the Dead 2: Contagium [Contagium isn't even a word. It's that bad.]

Rasen [a follow-up to something like Ringu should NEVER be this dull]

 

Well, those are the only ones I can think up off the top of my head.

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#329134
Topic
a possible Thank You letter to Lucas
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lordjedi said:

No thanks. But I'll sign a thank you letter when he releases the OOT completely remastered in anamorphic widescreen on either a DVD or Blu-ray disc. Until then, Lucas will get no thanks from me.


I don't care how good the Clone Wars TV series turns out. Until we get the OOT properly released, he deserves no thanks.


So, if someone doesn't give you exactly what you want, you don't see any reason to thank them if they give something else that's good? That's incredibly selfish. I'm not saying the series is going to be good, but if it is, then I see no problem with thanking the person responsible for it.

 

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#328212
Topic
.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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While I mourn the (apparent) loss of this great preservation project, I think that, at this point, it is almost unnecessary. Should PaulIsDead finish his Vintage Editions of ANH and RotJ (and redo ESB with an HD source), then, barring an astounding change of heart on Lucas' part, those projects will become the archival versions of the OOT. Even the best LD cleanup won't be able to compare. While I can't believe I'm saying this, I agree with the gay guy. Let's just let this thread be.

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#327956
Topic
I'm still a little confused about this anamorphic issue.
Time

Time for fun with math! Okay, assuming you have a widescreen TV, the amount of "dead space" on your DVDs goes like this:

 

Anamorphic 1.85:1 Film: Picture is 3.9% black space (1.95% from the top and bottom)

Anamorphic 2.39:1 Film: Picture is 25.62% black space (12.81% from the top and bottom)

Anamorphic 16:9 Film: No black space at all (this is the exact aspect ratio of your TV)

4:3 Film: Picture is 25% black space (12.5% from the left and right)

Nonanamorphic 1.85:1 Film: Picture is 45.95% black space (12.5% from the left and right, 10.47% from the top and bottom)

Nonanamorphic 2.39:1 Film: Picture is 58.16% black space (12.5% from the left and right, 16.58% from the top and bottom)

Nonanamorphic 16:9 Film: Film is 43.75% black space (12.5% from the left and right, 9.38% from the top and bottom)

 

So, as you can see, nonanamorphic 2.39 film leaves over half of the screen completely black! Unfortunately, the GOUT suffered this fate.

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#327849
Topic
Who's worse, TFN or the official site, starwars.com?
Time

I don't know about you guys, but I have yet to see the level of extreme behavior on TF.N that you describe. Hell, other than Go-Mer-Tonic (may he burn in the torturous afterlife cesspool of your choice), I remember not one person coming to GL's defense in zombie's Secret History thread over there. Can you point me to the topics where everyone seemed to be so belligerent? I spend most of my time there on the EU boards, and the discussion there is usual amicable (if a tad nerdy, but that's the pot calling the kettle black).