Hardcore Legend

I have thoughts on how a Boba Fett movie could work in this new Solo era but I will save them for spoilers stuff.

God bless Ron Howard.

TLJ didn’t have many exciting characters/new offerings. The First Order Troopers were all the same (since the film took place a day later). Rey, Finn, Poe didn’t see much change. Snoke’s character is dead halfway through. DJ was no Lando. There was no new Yoda for this part. Even Luke didn’t have a lightsaber until the very end, and they didn’t sell that figure.

At least with Rogue One, there were new Troopers, new Droid, new characters (Baze/Krennic/etc). With the new saga films, I’m sure for most kids, once you’ve bought a Kylo and a First Order trooper, you’ve got all you probably wanted.

Collipso said:

to be fair, i think the prequels would benefit immensely if the cgi was remade.

I agree. A recoloring and updated CGI would be nice.

I wonder why it is always so difficult to get someone to mimic Carrie’s voice. The Ford impression was good here. Even on Rebels, the Leia voice actor just wasn’t great.

TV’s Frink said:

We’re going to give them lunch and then complain they didn’t earn it like Luke did by crash landing on Dagobah.

Luke brought his own lunch to Dagobah. Yoda rewarded this level of planning with a gift of mud and wamprat stew. Luke was a better student, Yoda a better teacher. Nice going, Disney!

On the amazon reviews, it appears the newer versions of "ViewHD 2 Port 1x2 Powered HDMI Mini Splitter for 1080P & 3D no longer strips HDCP

Any alternate suggestions?

NeverarGreat said:

That would be annoying if true since she never met Yoda in life, and only being able to see people you knew as Force Ghosts is one of their unwritten rules.

Or has she?!?! Rey as re-incarnated Anakin CONFIRMED!

If they are planning on this being a trilogy, it’d be cool if Jabba was either behind this whole heist or he comes in at the end and kills everyone outside Han, Lando and Chewie and offers them the chance to come work for him or die. Show how ruthless Jabba really is.

However, they said on Star Wars Show that this film has a ton jokes in it. Jabba killing everyone would be a bit too dramatic.

DominicCobb said:

Well, I’m not arguing the semantics of the words “tragedy” and “redemption.” We know what I’m saying. Ben’s turn to the dark was lamentable, and I believe he should have the chance to turn back to the light.

Whereas Ben and (a handful of students with him) killed only the remaining students (less than a dozen) after his teacher tried to murder him.

Unless we are believing Luke is lying, Ben had already turned to Snoke by the time they had their fateful moment in the hut.

I think this is what got deleted?

DominicCobb said:

I honestly don’t understand this mindset but I now it’s very prevalent. The only way I can figure is people are used to Vader being redeemed because they saw that movie when they were a kid, while with Kylo he’s the guy almost singlehandedly responsible for ruining the lives of characters they loved when they were kids. That’s really the only explanation that makes sense to me.

I don’t think that has anything to do with it. Once you know Vader is Luke’s father, you look back and see that everything Vader does in ESB and ROTJ is to be reunited with his son. It shows a level of humanity for the monster. Also, his lines about the Force show that he still holds to a belief in something.

Everything Kylo has done is for revenge. Revenge against his father, his uncle, his mentor. He has no reverence for anything (kill the past). Other than his feeling of being alone, there is nothing there but hatred, petulance and rage. It would be difficult to create movement towards redemption with only 2 hours left in this saga.

Likewise, I don’t know how you create any conflict in Rey over not killing Kylo. We leave TLJ with her, Luke and Leia agreeing Kylo is a lost cause. Her doing a 180 in 2 hours is a tough sell, especially since she already spent last film going down that path.

darthrush said:

DominicCobb said:

Did some posts get deleted here?

Yep.

I’m not rewriting what I wrote, but be clear…it ended this discussion in an affirmative way for myself.

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

Vader was a much worse person.

In the OT? Nah.

After we have his backstory fleshed out, yes. The poor younglings!

Yes in the OT. Sorry that you like Han Solo more than Obi-wan.

He didn’t kill Obi-Wan

Um, what?

Darth Vader did not kill Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan became one with the Force before the blow was struck.

That’s a frankly ridiculous hair to split that has essentially no bearing on this conversation whatsoever.
You brought it up, not me.

Even if you believe Vader killed ObiWan, he did so in battle. Kylo murdered his unarmed father.

rodneyfaile said:

I wish tickets would go on sale.

Like, BOGO?

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

Vader was a much worse person.

In the OT? Nah.

After we have his backstory fleshed out, yes. The poor younglings!

Yes in the OT. Sorry that you like Han Solo more than Obi-wan.

He didn’t kill Obi-Wan

Um, what?

Darth Vader did not kill Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan became one with the Force before the blow was struck.

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

Vader was a much worse person.

In the OT? Nah.

After we have his backstory fleshed out, yes. The poor younglings!

Yes in the OT. Sorry that you like Han Solo more than Obi-wan.

He didn’t kill Obi-Wan

Also, Obi Wan had a weapon and they were in a fair fight. Han was murdered.

DominicCobb said:

Killing Threepio would be the worst thing that could ever happen in a Star Wars movie.

I would like, if possible, for one last film where C3PO, R2, Chewie are vital supporting characters to our lead. Let’s go look for Lando, Kylo’s real father!

DominicCobb said:

Vader was a much worse person.

In the OT? Nah.

After we have his backstory fleshed out, yes. The poor younglings!

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Hardcore Legend said:

Also, I don’t think we actually saw Vader kill any Rebels in the OT. Kylo ordered the murder of an innocent village of people in TFA. He’s gotta die or win.

That’s right. Instead he sent anonymous soldiers to die for him, only entering the Tantiv once the rebel threat had been neutralized.

Oh, and he went out as a fighter pilot and shot down rebel ships.

Right, which still wasn’t good but was all reasonable things to do in a war. Which is also why he needed to die.

After rewatching TFA last night, the lack of time jump really bothers me when it comes to Kylo/Rey. Basically, in the span of 3 days she goes from watching him murder Han and mame her friend, hating him so much that she slices his face open and wants him to die to thinking it would be OK if he came back to the lightside with her and help the resistance. Just 4 days before that he ordered an entire village of resistance sympathizers executed and oversaw the anhiliataion of an entire system.

ChainsawAsh said:

canofhumdingers said:

There’s tons of awesome aliens in TFA and R1. I like these guys from Maz’s castle.

Wait, are those live-action Zabraks Lasats (like Zeb from Rebels)?

If they are, I hope they never make a live-action Rebels film. My nightmares are all ready pretty full as it is.

100% in, 100% still going to have to adjust to the characters being recast.

At least with McGregor, you believed he could become Alec Guiness. I don’t know that I can believe either of these two become Ford/Williams

GZK8000 said:

Hardcore Legend said:

There is no redemption. He needs to die like a dog. He murdered his father. He murdered his mentor. He murdered all of his fellow students. He attempted to murder his uncle. He either needs to win and the trilogy ends on down note or he needs to die.

I don’t see any reasonable way he can turn to the light and survive. He was part of the murder of an entire system.

You’re almost 35 years too late.

Is this in reference to Vader? Because his death was part of his redemption. There is no logistical way he could have survived and returned with Luke to the Rebels.

Also, I don’t think we actually saw Vader kill any Rebels in the OT. Kylo ordered the murder of an innocent village of people in TFA. He’s gotta die or win.

a_o said:

Hux and Snoke allude to “having the resistance tied to a string.” Were the First Order locked-on to Finn-2-187 and tracking him through hyperspace? Since Finn had been abducted as a child and in their ranks as a stormtrooper for some time before The Force Awakens, did the First Order embed trackers into their soldiers and more easily seek out defectors?

They would have noticed when he left the ship and traveled to Canto Bight

There is no redemption. He needs to die like a dog. He murdered his father. He murdered his mentor. He murdered all of his fellow students. He attempted to murder his uncle. He either needs to win and the trilogy ends on down note or he needs to die.

I don’t see any reasonable way he can turn to the light and survive. He was part of the murder of an entire system.

He throws Edwards under the bus pretty hard there, while Edwards has no way of defending himself since his version will never be released.