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#1035916
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Machete Order? mmm
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TFA, SW, ROTS, ESB, TPM, ROTJ, RO, AOTC

Really a quite compelling viewing order if you think about it too much.

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#1035915
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Tyrphanax said:

ferris209 said:

Tyrphanax said:

I’m going to be very interested to read these posts again in four years.

I still maintain that Trump will not turn out to be the next Hitler nor will he be the great savior. I think when it’s all said and done he will probably be a “meh” president with liberals upset that he wasn’t the catastrophe they rant and rave about and everyone who believed what he said upset that he failed to live up to 95% of his campaign promises.

I more or less agree with regards to Trump himself… I think he’s a bad person, but I doubt we’ll see anything truly groundbreaking one way or the other from him during his time in office (though we will continue to have at least one ridiculous drama or scandal or controversy per day). I’m more interested about his cabinet picks and the Republican-controlled congress.

The right wing has a chance to prove they know what they’re doing with regards to America, and we’ll see if they truly do (or not) in these coming years. They face very little opposition in congress and from the President as well as eventually the supreme court, so it’ll be interesting to see their agendas at (mostly uncontested) work.

Intersting is not the word I would use.

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#1035683
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Star Wars at box office
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All eight live action SW films are in the top 100 adjusted. No other franchise has that many.

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#1035679
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What do you HATE about the EU?
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LuckyGungan2001 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

NeverarGreat said:

I see images like that and wonder how they are in the same universe as that quaint 70’s movie. You know, the one featuring a farmboy, a down-on-his-luck hot rod driver and his giant doglike sidekick, and a sassy Mexican Revolution styled princess.

It’s almost as if it’s a realistic depiction of a galaxy, where things are different depending on the location or time.

LOL. There’s nothing “different” about how Legacy portrayed anything.

To be honest, I haven’t read the Legacy comics, but I don’t get the idea that everything in a fictional universe has to resemble everything else.

It should at least be in the same spirit.

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#1035665
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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TV’s Frink said:

SilverWook said:

Tyrphanax said:

eiyosus said:

There’s an old vacuum commercial with Frank Sinatra (I think) dancing with a vacuum (or maybe it was Singing in the Rain Footage) that they made sometime after Forest Gump pioneered the technology of placing old actors (or JFK, in the case of Forest Gump) in new footage, so they’ve been at it for a while now.

It was Fred Astaire and a Dirt Devil and they got in a lot of trouble with his estate.

Uh, it was his estate that pimped him out while stiffing documentaries and other legit venues of even being able to use film clips of him. Moral of the story, don’t marry a control freak late in life who will whore out your likeness after you’re dead.

Well I’m screwed.

Sorry, have to pay the bills somehow.

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#1035475
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What do you HATE about the EU?
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The other clear influence, I believe, is high seas swashbuckling. As with other influences, it’s always been there in SW from the start, though I do believe in some ways it is more pronounced here.

I remember my first general impression of the score was that it sounds far more like classic pirate films than any of the other scores do, and I think that fits the tone of the film rather well.

The main character, Rey, is a scavenger, who salvages parts from beached shipwrecks. Finn definitely feels like a soldier who’s jumped ship and shacked up with pirates. Speaking of pirates - Han’s always been one, and that’s perhaps never been more true than in this film (where we see him board and capture his old ship, haul dangerous creatures from some far flung land for money, and end up with other pirates boarding his ship looking to collect on a number of debts). He later brings the crew to Takadonna, which yes is has castle, but 100% feels like a Tortuga type island refuge for pirates.

There political situation has parallels. There’s no one power that controls all of the galaxy (seas). I just watched The Sea Hawk recently and some of the similarities are striking. In it, the Spanish Empire has been taking over a great deal of land, with secret plans to eventually invade England (and take over the whole map). England and the Crown is “peaceful” with them, but the Sea Hawks (English privateers) have been attacking Spanish ships. The Queen is publicly dismissive of them, but covertly supports them. There’s even a section of the film that deals with finding a map!

Then there’s the end of the film. Rey finds Luke on an island, and indeed the whole planet feels very much like an island in uncharted waters. The trip to Ahch-to feels very much like a journey off to an unknown spot in the New World (even if the location is supposedly ancient).

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#1035381
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Episode III: Revenge of the Ridiculousness
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If you’ve seen that interview, JJ is clearly joking (as he often does). Anyway, LFL’s new canon policy is pretty hardline and doesn’t and hasn’t allowed for people to randomly canonize old works (despite what Wikipedia might hope).

Still, canon is what you make of it. If you feel like the HS should be canon, go for it! Nothing wrong with personally seeing it that way. But the chances it is officially canon is very slim to almost definitely one. Not that any of that matters for Frink’s edit. And I have to say, I’m with him. HS? No thanks.

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#1035239
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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imperialscum said:

Sougouk said:

imperialscum said:

Sougouk said:

However, I really hated the CG Tarkin. The scenes with CG Tarkin, threw me out of the movie experience.
Unfortunately, he’s an important character and needed to be in the movie.
It sorta felt like a “Who Framed Roger Rabbit” Meets “Star Wars”, mixing Animation/CG with Live Action.

For me, Tarkin was one of the highlights of the film.

In all honesty, the CG of Tarkin is a good effort, but I just wish they didn’t go the CG route.
If there was a way to superimpose old Tarkin footage from Star Wars to match up with the scene.
I know that wouldn’t be perfect either, but they might’ve been able to pull that off a little better.
As long as they kept the scenes short.

Anyways, to each their own.

One this is for sure, CGI is way better than having a new actor (in terms of visual appearance). That never works, especially when it comes to well-established characters. I am pretty sure it will not work for Han Solo.

Well, if by “work” you mean he will not look or sound like Harrison Ford, then you are right. That doesn’t mean it won’t be good though. The worst thing they could have done for that film would have been to have the lead performance be a CGI Han Solo with an HF impersonator. I shiver at the thought of it.

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#1035238
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Episode III: Revenge of the Ridiculousness
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yoda-sama said:

DominicCobb said:

yoda-sama said:

DominicCobb said:

Lucasfilm, 3 years ago.
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page

That has what exactly to do with the Holiday Special? It is supposed to still be canon, and I stand by that until you provide proof other than various fan writings having been invalidated as we all know. Obviously we shouldn’t keep on that here, unless you have some concise example to offer.

Did you read that article? LFL’s new approach has always been very clear. New canon = episodes I-VI and TCW plus anything made from 2014 on. Where is exactly does the HS fit in there? I’d love to know.

Yes, I can and did read, it said it includes those things, not limited solely to them. I said, if you can come back with a concise example that mentions the Holiday Special specifically as part of the EU that got thrown out, that would be acceptable. If you just have speculation without much to back it up, let’s not muck up Frink’s Ridiculous thread with it.

While Lucasfilm always strived to keep the stories created for the EU consistent with our film and television content as well as internally consistent, Lucas always made it clear that he was not beholden to the EU. He set the films he created as the canon. This includes the six Star Wars episodes, and the many hours of content he developed and produced in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. These stories are the immovable objects of Star Wars history, the characters and events to which all other tales must align.

It said included and the very clear implication was that it was limited solely to them, and nothing they’ve said or done since then has suggested otherwise.

There is literally no reason at all to think that when they said this that they meant “these things are canon and the other stuff is not, except maybe the Holiday Special because everyone loves that one, right?” I honestly cannot fathom how you think a complete wiping of the EU which explicitly ditches all books, comics, video games, TV shows (besides TCW, as stated), and TV movies wouldn’t include ditching the Holiday Special.

Though I can’t find a concise “Holiday Special isn’t canon” answer offhand, I don’t see why I would need to. Common sense and everything we know about the EU wipe is on my side.

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#1035219
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Episode III: Revenge of the Ridiculousness
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yoda-sama said:

DominicCobb said:

Lucasfilm, 3 years ago.
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page

That has what exactly to do with the Holiday Special? It is supposed to still be canon, and I stand by that until you provide proof other than various fan writings having been invalidated as we all know. Obviously we shouldn’t keep on that here, unless you have some concise example to offer.

Did you read that article? LFL’s new approach has always been very clear. New canon = episodes I-VI and TCW plus anything made from 2014 on. Where is exactly does the HS fit in there? I’d love to know.

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#1035158
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If you could only remove one SE change...?
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There is only one change that brings the climax of one of the films to a screeching halt. Vader boarding his star destroyer in ESB is therefore, hands down, without a doubt, the absolute worst SE change.

Jedi Rocks is the most embarrassing moment in any SW film but as a friend pointed out to me recently when we were discussing SE changes it is easily skippable (as is much of that portion of the film, sadly). Same goes for the Jabba scene in ANH. Still, terrible changes.

The color changes are pretty gnarly though I’m not sure I’d really classify that as a “change.” More like a colossal fuckup.

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#1035025
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Are the Prequels Even Worth Watching Once?
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imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

IP55 said:

imperialscum said:

Alderaan said:

[Haarspalter said:]
If you want to find out what George Lucas was thinking when he made the PT

He was thinking the same things he was thinking when he made the OT if you ask me. But there were no longer any constraints or people to reign him in.

I think if George could have, he would have made the originals exactly like he made the prequels.

I doubt that. He had practically no constraints in ESB and ROTJ as he held the rights to the sequels and was doing them with his own company. Even in ANH he had mostly free hands since the studio did not seem to care about the film prior to the release.

I would say it is mostly that in OT he actually had good ideas and was open to feedback from his collaborators.

Irvin made ESB what it was.

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I love people who think the director is the only person responsible for the success or failure of a movie.

Well depends on the film. But in ESB Kershner was a hired actor director while Lucas was basically the creative director of the film.

You’re sadly mistaken if you think all he did was direct actors.

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#1034976
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Are the Prequels Even Worth Watching Once?
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IP55 said:

TV’s Frink said:

IP55 said:

imperialscum said:

Alderaan said:

[Haarspalter said:]
If you want to find out what George Lucas was thinking when he made the PT

He was thinking the same things he was thinking when he made the OT if you ask me. But there were no longer any constraints or people to reign him in.

I think if George could have, he would have made the originals exactly like he made the prequels.

I doubt that. He had practically no constraints in ESB and ROTJ as he held the rights to the sequels and was doing them with his own company. Even in ANH he had mostly free hands since the studio did not seem to care about the film prior to the release.

I would say it is mostly that in OT he actually had good ideas and was open to feedback from his collaborators.

Irvin made ESB what it was.

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I love people who think the director is the only person responsible for the success or failure of a movie.

So the exec producer is. Yeah hitchcock, Sergio leone, coppola films etc weren’t down to direction!

Kersh was a huge part of what made ESB great, arguably the biggest. But Kasdan still wrote the script, and GL had more control than most EPs, though not nearly as much as on ROTJ. Not to mention Kersh was no auteur. I’d say there were a number of talented directors who GL could have hired that would have made just as good a film. On the other hand, GL was intent on being more controlling on ROTJ (and making it faster and cheaper), so it is unlikely any director he would have hired wouldn’t have been willing to completely roll over for him. I’d say ESB is what it is because GL had just the right amount of input, and not any more.

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#1034741
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What are you reading?
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Glad I’m not the only one. I think a big part of it too is that there are these important new characters that I just really don’t care about. I haven’t read a lot of the EU, but I’ve read quite a few books that grabbed me more than the Thrawn ones.

In regards to capturing the spirit of the films on the page, I’d argue it’s not possible. SW is a cinematic saga, through and through. But I would love to read something that gets close. So far the best SW books I’ve read have captured some (not all) aspects of what makes the series great.

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#1034551
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:

It’s true this edit is narrowly focused, but I don’t mind discussion of scenes and dialogue closely related. There was some discussion a while back about whether to remove, “Those beasts,” or, “They’re here.” I think the idea was removing, “They’re here,” avoids having it look like no one told Maz about the impending attack.

I understand. But I don’t see how removing “those beasts” would affect anything (unless you’re removing both lines). I get how removing the latter line would change it, though I’m not sure removing either is necessary with the current lone star destroyer solution, as that doesn’t necessarily imply an impending attack.

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