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DominicCobb

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#1058952
Topic
Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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joefavs said:

Eh, if I’m being honest I’m sure I won’t stay gone, but I do think I need a break. It seems that the board is becoming more about hating most of Star Wars than liking any of it.

We seem to be of the same mind about this (and many other things) so I do hope it won’t be a permanent break. I should really spend less time here to but I’m dumb and can’t help myself.

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#1058950
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Jeebus said:

Alderaan said:

chyron8472 said:

As Hillary said, she would have been a good president

No. No she wouldn’t have been. She would have been god-awful terrible. Just like Trump is god-awful terrible, but in a different way.

Just because Trump is a joke, and he is, does not mean she would have been good or better.

It was truly a lose-lose situation in this country.

Woah, I think that’s the first thing I agree with you on 😛

And another thing I disagree with both of you on.

If Trump has proven anything, it’s that those who said he would be god-awful terrible were more right than they feared, and those who said he’d be a funny meme who wouldn’t get anything done were very wrong (although thankfully as of today at least one thing has been narrowly prevented).

I cannot fathom how Clinton would have been in anyway worse or even a fraction as bad. Cannot at all.

Everything that people feared from her is showing up in spades. Lying through teeth? Check. Personal interests over country? Check. Lining pockets with foreign dollars? Check. High chance of starting a war or two? Check. Flagrant disregard for the needs of the working class? Check. Gross incompetence that threatens national security? Check. Goldman Sachs? Check. Keeping the swamp full of bureaucratic insiders? Check. Being too tired to put the in the hours necessary? Check.

I guess he isn’t murdering his critics* or running a kiddie porn ring out of a pizza place though.

*yet

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#1058949
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Last movie seen
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Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

As far as I can see it’s 60 minutes of some guy talking about Garfield. Unless I’ve missed something, how is that a movie?

It’s a commentary on our post modern world, setting its sights on the very idea of criticism with biting irony and satire, without a hint of sarcasm that so often befalls other works of parody. It employs actors, production design, uses the entire Philip Glass score for Kundun, and in a similar vein to Best Picture winner Birdman and Alfred Hitchcock’s Rope, uses a single, unbroken take. It’s production values are high enough to be considered a professional effort, I don’t know what to really call it if not a movie, it is certainly art of some kind.

Seems more like some sort of video essay? I mean the concept of “movie” is a rather nebulous term so technically you could apply it to all manner of videos. That doesn’t mean you should, though.

And, though I’m sure you know, neither Birdman nor Rope is really a single, unbroken take.

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#1058948
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Last movie seen
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Handman said:

Honestly, it’s not as if TFA is some kind of masterpiece even worth raving about. It was okay, not amazing, not awful. I’m sick of seeing all this condescension over it.

Isn’t this post itself condescending?

Also, I think it’s pretty clear DE is on the same page as you there.

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#1058598
Topic
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - FanEdit Ideas <strong><em>SPOILERS</em></strong>
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Jeebus said:

ForceGhostRecon said:

I’ve taken out Tatooine… works much better now. Vader also now says “Send a detachment to retrieve them.” instead of “Send a detachment DOWN to retrieve them.”

https://vimeo.com/209742146

(still needs to be fine-tuned, but gets the idea across)

Very nicely done.

What version of the Imperial March did you use when for when Vader boards the Tantive and assesses the aftermath?

Sounds like the one from RO when Krennic meets Vader.

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#1058584
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

Lol!

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-healthcare-pass-ahca-obamacare-2017-3

President Donald Trump is giving House Republicans an ultimatum: Pass the American Health Care Act on Friday, or Obamacare stays.

Mick Mulvaney, the Office of Budget and Management director, made clear to Republicans on Thursday night that Trump wants a vote Friday and that he is done negotiating on the bill to overhaul healthcare. If it is not passed, the president will move on from the bill, reports said.

This is kind of brilliant, in a way. Republican’s want to repeal and replace, so if it doesn’t happen he’s shifted the blame entirely. Meanwhile, they will continue to benefit from all the Obamacare things they would have otherwise lost. So this is pretty much the only way to ensure this bill doesn’t irreparably damage Trump in the eyes of his voters (which is why Dems will need to start leaning in even harder on calling it “Trumpcare” and making it clear this is his failure).

It will be interesting to see how the vote plays out. Either way some Republicans aren’t going to make it out alive. The Dems lost a lot of seats because of the ACA in 2010, and it wasn’t nearly as unpopular as this.

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#1058578
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I picked a few paragraphs from the article below.

http://www.economist.com/node/21563298

CNN is good at reporting hard news, because it has lots of good reporters. It has 45 bureaus around the world—more than Fox News and MSNBC combined—and about 4,000 employees. Its ratings soar whenever there is a terrorist attack, flood or war. When American embassies were recently stormed in Libya, Yemen and Egypt, for example, CNN got a lift.

When the news is about words rather than action, however, CNN struggles. Conservative viewers like to hear Fox’s Bill O’Reilly fume about “far-left loons”. Liberals like to hear MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow condescend to conservatives. Gasbags in a studio are cheaper than camera crews in the Middle East, which may be why CNN’s profit margins (around 37%) are less than MSNBC’s (46%) and Fox’s (55%).

If the next boss chooses to differentiate CNN further from its rivals, by commissioning more global reporting and less hot air, it will cost a packet. But Mr Whitaker is bullish: “If it got our ratings up substantially, it would be worth it,” he says.

This is irrelevant to the articles posted. Again, please point out the bias and inaccuracies in the articles.

Again, they are known for hot air.

If anything that article quote was implying the opposite.

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#1058542
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Handman said:

Biden would be almost 80 years old at that point, he’d enter office older than when Reagan left. I’m not sure about that. I mean, 70 is pretty much the new 50 for these politicians, but 80 seems remarkably older.

What? I was talking about last cycle.

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#1058541
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Han Solo Movie Spoiler Thread
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darthrush said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Just throwing this out here;
maybe what he meant to say was “how he made a name for himself”.

Han was already a fairly well know smuggler by the time of ANH, so this film might revolve around some big event that makes him famous in the criminal underworld. My guess would be some expansion on the Kessel Run as it hasn’t made an actual appearance in the new canon yet.

I hope it’s this. I would hate it to be that Han Solo is just his nickname.

It doesn’t have to be a nickname. People change their name all the time. Sounds like the kind of thing a smuggler might do. shrug

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#1058526
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

The Internet is no place for such rational conclusions.

EDIT: Fo beat me to it.

Voting for Hillary was the best shot at defeating Trump.

In retrospect, perhaps it wasn’t. At least regarding the primaries.

Signs point to inconsiclusive on that front (though it seems the question will always linger).

One thing I think is probably for certain, Joe Biden would have whooped Trump’s ass. Shame.

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#1058374
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Fang Zei said:

Lord Haseo said:

What are the specific points of contention that JJ and Kathleen had?

Maybe someone with more knowledge of this can speak to it, but there were rumors swirling during pre-production that JJ was going to leave the project because he and LFL weren’t seeing eye to eye.

As far as I know this had to do with the release date.

I’d be very interested to read a history of the production of Rogue One whenever LFL is willing to release that info. I’m not sure I completely buy the general idea of what caused the reshoots - LFL/Disney didn’t like that the movie was too weird or too un-Star Warsy or whatever so they hired Gilroy to replace Edwards. I think, more likely than not, the film simply wasn’t good, and Edwards knew it as much as Kennedy or anyone else. A lot of the changes were deep seeded character and plot things, so it’s probable that the main issue pre-reshoots was that the story wasn’t tracking. Edwards has worked with Gilroy on reshoots before so I think that was very much a collaborative process, and I’m pretty sure the only reason Gilroy directed anything at all was because Edwards simply didn’t have the time to direct all the reshoot material by himself. Now, is it possible that there was an attempt to make things “more Star Warsy”? Sure and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why Desplat left, for instance. But I don’t think that was the primary goal and I don’t think it was really “made by a committee” other than the fact that a bunch of people sat down in a room and thought “how can we fix this story?”

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#1058369
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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@Density first of all yes I could tell you who directed every Marvel film off the top of my head because I’m dumb like that.

Second of all, I wrote that late at night so maybe my points weren’t entirely clear. The main thing is, there’s a big difference between a studio executive and a producer, the latter of which I consider filmmakers. Marvel movies are formulaic because of Kevin Feige and Marvel studios, not Disney. Again, it’s the delineation between studio and production company that goes back to my initial post. Marvel studios, the production company might have a prerogative to make everything follows a similar structure or style, but Disney studios doesn’t. What’s in their strategy is more “this Marvel movie on this date, and that one on this date.”

What I think is silly is the idea that Disney told LFL they needed another Death Star in TFA and such. I mean do we think Bob Iger or Alan Horn have any idea what a Ponda Baba is? Blame LFL, not Disney.

We both agree that there’s probably too much existing properties getting made. However, I tend to be of the mindset that if they’re bad, oh well I won’t watch, and, if they’re good, that’s awesome! There’s nothing inherently wrong with nostalgia or fan service, despite what many here seem to think (and no I’m NOT saying only people here).

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#1058318
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Apologies for forgetting the obvious overall Disney strategy of “make everything a stale copy of something else.”

Yeah, of course they have a say in what stuff gets made, but they’re not really dealing with the intricacies of how, at least not for the most part. They have nothing to do with the fact that Marvel’s movies are to an extent formulaic, for instance. I mean seriously, what’s the prerogative for that? There’s literally no reason why a studio would want everyone of their movies to have the same plot, despite what many people here have convinced themselves. If two Marvel films have similar plots it’s because of lazy writers (or ones with not enough time), it’s not because some devious studio exec walked into the writer’s room and said hey make sure to copy the plot note for note or whatever.

All the studios have the same shit. Look at Fox’s recent and upcoming slate and you’ll find all the same stuff - sequels, reboots, adaptations, etc. You can cherry pick two recent “different” films to show their range, but you could just as easily point out X-Men: Apocalypse, one of the laziest superhero films I’ve seen recently that probably deserves the critique of “same old shit” more than any recent Marvel film; and then of course there’s Fant4stic which speaks for itself.

Disney’s obviously on a recent kick of remaking their animated classics because surprise! they make a lot of money. But they’re not all mindless fan service. Pete’s Dragon is very different from the original and also happened to be one of the best films last year.

As for the stupid South Park member berry bullshit, I don’t know what to say but that yeah people like seeing things they like? There’s nothing wrong with nostalgia if done properly. Obviously sometimes it works better than others but the idea that ~nostalgia~ is this brain numbing intoxicant that studio execs mix up and spit out to the mindless masses is just tiresome.

Basically, too long didn’t read version: ALL studios like using existing properties because they know people like them and will give moneys. The quality of the end product, however, is ultimately up to the filmmakers. If they can’t find a way to work with the nostalgia in a way that satisfies you, blame them.

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#1058295
Topic
What anthology/spinoff film would you like to see?
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joefavs said:

A few months ago I was talking about this at a bar with some friends, and we decided we’d like to see a Heart of Darkness riff about the droid who DID impersonate a deity, because there must have been one somewhere along the line if C-3PO’s programming specifically forbids it.

Sold

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#1058257
Topic
Ranking the Batman films
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ray_afraid said:

Frinks got it right. Fans would have loved Ledger anyway because it was a great performance of a loved character. But the rest of the world (most people) went nuts over it because of his death after portraying such a dark character.

To a degree you’re probably right, but I’m certain it would have been a widely popular performance (and film) regardless. Because it was great. If it wasn’t great, no one would have cared.

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#1058148
Topic
Ranking the Batman films
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The character and the performance would have been a hit regardless (perhaps even more so if he had another chance to play him).

You think people quote “why so serious?” and etc. just because Ledger died? That’s the only crazy thing I see.

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#1058064
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

The disparity between what you think you know and what you actually know is hilarious.

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#1058047
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

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#1058001
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The Random EU Thoughts Thread
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ZkinandBonez said:

DominicCobb said:

I’ve been thinking about picking up any old EU book. What are people’s favorites beyond the obvious (Thrawn trilogy, Han Solo adventures)?

I really enjoyed Shadows of the Empire.

It’s not an overly elaborate EU story as it’s set between ESB and ROTJ, and it’s just one book so you won’t have to commit to a trilogy or a whole series.

I enjoyed that one, even though I thought Xizor and Rendar both sucked. It was fun.

joefavs said:

K. W. Jeter’s The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy was pretty neat.

Is that a Boba Fett thing?

Also, anyone read the Jedi Academy books?

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#1057999
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The Random EU Thoughts Thread
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I don’t know much about the EU in general, but if I had to, from my limited understanding, pick the two biggest EU characters, it’d probably be Thrawn and Mara Jade. Which is to say nothing of their quality (in fact I’m halfway through HTTE and I don’t care much about either), but they just seem to be the ones most talked about or of most importance. I mean, she married Luke. That’s kind of a big deal.

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