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DominicCobb

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#1156843
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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TV’s Frink said:

Valheru_84 said:

Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.

This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.

Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.

This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.

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#1156824
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Ok, so then what is the problem with Rose? I am confused what remaining complaints there might be.

Here’s a helpful post from the other forum.

You’re the only one. Rose is the worst Star Wars character ever. Yes…even worse than Jar Jar. At least he has good theories about him being a Sith Lord. Rose served zero purpose the entire movienother than trying to save her crush’s life while sacrificing the entire universe to the FO.

Where’s that post from? I remember reading it somewhere…

I can’t find it now because there’s too many pages of outrage in too short a time, but it’s in one of these two threads.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153592/content-update-1-10-2018-mega/p1
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153597/hold-on-to-what-you-love/p1

The best part is that it might not even be Rose that’s added to the game. It might be Holdo. I would love days of whining about something that ends up not even happening.

I bet you if it’s Holdo she will get just as much hate.

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#1156780
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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dahmage said:

Ok, so then what is the problem with Rose? I am confused what remaining complaints there might be.

People are mad that she stopped Finn from having a super bad ass self sacrifice hero moment like Randy Quaid in Independence Day.

The point, of course, being that kind of thing is stupid.

Also, about Rose being working class, she isn’t just working class. She’s the person behind the scenes who does the dirty work while the heroes do the hero stuff. And her class status is important because she is the only character who (at least explicitly) was oppressed by the First Order (well Finn was too of course but in a totally different way).

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#1156751
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mielr said:

dahmage said:

Rose is a better character than Lando was. Barely. But still.

Seriously? Lando was a pretty pivotal character and really set all the events in motion for the 2nd half of the movie. He partnered with Vader to trap Luke and in the process got Han nearly killed and shipped off to Jabba (remember?)

No Lando: no cloud city, no luke/vader duel (no “I am your father”), no carbonite, no Jabba, no reason for rotj basically.

What exactly did Rose do that was so important (besides setting free horse-llama things and preventing Finn from committing an act of selflessness)?

Most of the movie doesn’t exist without Rose.

Like I said, I thought her character was fine. But I don’t understand what you mean.

Mielr was saying that Lando was a consequential character to the narrative. I was saying, in that way, so is Rose.

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#1156747
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Handman said:

DominicCobb said:

Mielr said:

dahmage said:

Rose is a better character than Lando was. Barely. But still.

Seriously? Lando was a pretty pivotal character and really set all the events in motion for the 2nd half of the movie. He partnered with Vader to trap Luke and in the process got Han nearly killed and shipped off to Jabba (remember?)

No Lando: no cloud city, no luke/vader duel (no “I am your father”), no carbonite, no Jabba, no reason for rotj basically.

What exactly did Rose do that was so important (besides setting free horse-llama things and preventing Finn from committing an act of selflessness)?

Most of the movie doesn’t exist without Rose.

That’s not necessarily a good thing…

Well, maybe if you don’t like the movie. But on the question of whether her character is of consequence, then the answer is clearly yes.

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#1156744
Topic
The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Mielr said:

dahmage said:

Rose is a better character than Lando was. Barely. But still.

Seriously? Lando was a pretty pivotal character and really set all the events in motion for the 2nd half of the movie. He partnered with Vader to trap Luke and in the process got Han nearly killed and shipped off to Jabba (remember?)

No Lando: no cloud city, no luke/vader duel (no “I am your father”), no carbonite, no Jabba, no reason for rotj basically.

What exactly did Rose do that was so important (besides setting free horse-llama things and preventing Finn from committing an act of selflessness)?

Most of the movie doesn’t exist without Rose.

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#1156418
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Last movie seen
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darthrush said:

DominicCobb said:

Dunkirk is one of the most purely cinematic films made in recent memory. The sheer tension and emotion Nolan squeezes out of fairly basic story with fairly basic characters is incredibly impressive. A true experience film, and easily one of the best of the year (currently my second favorite, and unlikely to budge).

Nice to hear your thoughts! I have noticed that there are a few people I’ve talked to who fall on both ends of the spectrum for liking the movie or not. I guess it just didn’t click with me the first time I saw it. I will try to watch it a second time with a closer eye and get back to ya on it.

If you’re expecting traditional character an plot development, I can see why you’d be disappointed. The idea is more to drop you into this intense situation and have you experience it from their points of view (with the blank slate nature of the characters helping that).

Handman said:

I found the silent film edit of Dunkirk extremely effective.

I haven’t seen that yet, but it doesn’t surprise me that it would be. Dunkirk basically works as a silent film already.

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#1156365
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

ray_afraid said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

But seriously, why are we actually discussing Oprah being elected? Why is anyone anywhere discussing it?

She made a big and inspiring speech.

meh.

Pfft. Good grief.

I just didn’t think it was that great or that moving. On a side note, I think I’d rather have someone just say thank you to whomever they feel need to be thanked when winning an award like a Golden Globe or an Oscar, instead of making a political speech. But that is just me.

It was a lifetime achievement award.

and not a victory speech after winning election to public office.

Have you even seen the speech?

yes.

Well you have a very interesting interpretation of it.

yhwx said:

I’m not sure if you have to get liberals riled up for a particular candidate. You just have to get them to be really anti-Trump. Isn’t that what the Republicans did during Obama’s tenure?

A lot liberals have sticks in their asses about who they believe to be Acceptable Candidates.

You could argue that the moderates are more open to having someone that just isn’t Trump.

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#1156364
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The Place to Go for Emotional Support
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TV’s Frink said:

I’ve been in this situation also, but it ended up with me and Dom getting married.

Which just goes to prove that moving on and cutting them out of your life really is the best for all involved.

In all serious, stay as way for as long as it takes for those feelings to subside. It’s a shit situation, I think we’ve all been there at some point or another. But there is more out there.

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#1156363
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Last movie seen
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Handman said:

The Adventures of Don Juan (1948)
Another excellent Errol Flynn swashbuckler. He reforms his ways, slightly.

That’s a fun one. I’ve been slowly making my way through his films for the past five years or so. Still nothing tops Robin Hood.

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#1156362
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Last movie seen
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Dunkirk is one of the most purely cinematic films made in recent memory. The sheer tension and emotion Nolan squeezes out of fairly basic story with fairly basic characters is incredibly impressive. A true experience film, and easily one of the best of the year (currently my second favorite, and unlikely to budge).

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#1156358
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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Collipso said:

Which one do you guys consider to be Luke’s theme more:

  • The one that plays when we first see him and Aunt Beru calls his name (the main theme, or a variation)

or

  • Binary Sunset (aka force theme)?

Neither, and both. In the OT, for the most part, the former is definitely his, while the latter is more generally for the Force itself. But with the PT and the ST, the former has become a much more general “hero” theme, while the latter has cemented its status as belonging to the Force and Force users (rather than simply Obi-wan, who it was originally written for). So in the context of the whole saga, neither are “Luke’s theme” entirely, while both still are tied directly to him (being a primary hero and Force user in the series).

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