TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released) — Page 32

Nice! I’ll let Sir Ridley decide how to handle the sequence, but it seems like a distinctly viable way to go, so thank you for making it available.

NeverarGreat said:

The firing scene has several problems, including the fact that the planet shouldn’t be in sunlight at the time. So there are at least 3 shots that need fixing at some point.

Rewatching the scene in V1, the only shot that looks like it could use some work would be the one with the trees. But it’s only daylight for less than a second before the red beam envelopes everything. Are you perhaps thinking the planet shouldn’t have as much light shining on it when we see it from space?

No, I’m glad you did! It’s now a distinct avenue we could choose to use. In the MC role I’ve come to hold on the project, I’m happy to let Ridley call this one. 😃

I liked the concept behind the video. The visuals of the first Star Destroyer shot and the second one would need to have the same clouds, but other than that it flowed quite well.

Hal 9000 said:

NeverarGreat said:

The firing scene has several problems, including the fact that the planet shouldn’t be in sunlight at the time. So there are at least 3 shots that need fixing at some point.

Rewatching the scene in V1, the only shot that looks like it could use some work would be the one with the trees. But it’s only daylight for less than a second before the red beam envelopes everything. Are you perhaps thinking the planet shouldn’t have as much light shining on it when we see it from space?

Yeah, I have actually just done that shot:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/206094
The planet originally had the sun shining on it, so it should definitely be darker in the two other shots as well.

“It’s the First Order” alone makes sense, and since “they’ve found us” is rather obvious, I would vote for losing that part, especially since the dub isn’t seamless.

Sir Ridley said:

Good point, but I like the implication of the second part of the line. It’s not just a ship that happens to be nearby, it’s there because of them. And it kind of shows Finn isn’t just worried for his own safety. They’ve found US. Which leads to the question about Rey. I like that.

Very well put.

^Very good. I retract my vote 😃

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A new attempt at a climactic resolution, with bare bones audio as usual:
https://vimeo.com/212513029
Password: Split Wing

With the moving of the Starkiller ignition, first time viewers may be wondering where the X-wings are as the base prepares to fire. In the original version the absence of the X-wings was justified because they arrive later and save the day, but in V1 they are MIA, and in fact they have allowed themselves to be drawn far away from the Oscillator.

Here I attempted to give them one last bombing run before the station fires. Some VFX of missiles could go a long way towards selling this part, and the placement in the Oscillator scene could change. I merely put it there because it was almost exactly 2 minutes from ignition.

After the unsuccessful bombing run, I think it would make sense to have the sound of bombs impacting the Oscillator as Kylo and Han converse. After the ignition the X-wings presumably retreat (Perhaps they think the Starkiller is a one-trick pony), which is where we find them when Chewie blows the charges. Poe decides to go back and finish their job.

The final X-wing run is the one I like the most, since it cuts the interior of the Oscillator entirely to give a moment of suspense where it isn’t clear if Poe survived.

The pacing of the scenes feels too conflicting. It worked in ROTJ because the dialogue of the Emperor was describing the action we were seeing. These are disconnected and feel like they are competing, imho.

DominicCobb said:

These rearranging ideas all sound kind of fun on paper but I don’t think I’ve seen anything that works in practice.

I’m still of the belief that the way to save the trench run is simply to make it seem like the weapon is going to fire again, this time at the Resistance base.

Yeah, for every 5 ideas only one works out it seems.

But your idea might work. Although we can’t use any of the Resistance base scenes, it may be possible to cut together the unused Hux/Snoke dialogue. Since it would be extremely difficult to use the Resistance base dialogue on the subject, the implication would be that the fighters are just fulfilling their original objective, unaware that the station is able to fire again.

Especially if that’s the case, it wouldn’t do anything to merit any of the chipper attitude at the end. All it’d do is offset the ‘revenge’ motive for the trench run, and even then it wouldn’t since the fighters would be unaware.
Maybe the dialogue between Hux and Snoke could be considering their next target, just enough to imply that it’s important this thing be destroyed.
Although, having the base about to fire again would address the apparent “problem” (only for those very aware of the theatrical version in which one star equals one shot) of SKB exploding into a star after it had discharged.

Hal 9000 said:

Especially if that’s the case, it wouldn’t do anything to merit any of the chipper attitude at the end. All it’d do is offset the ‘revenge’ motive for the trench run, and even then it wouldn’t since the fighters would be unaware.
Maybe the dialogue between Hux and Snoke could be considering their next target, just enough to imply that it’s important this thing be destroyed.
Although, having the base about to fire again would address the apparent “problem” (only for those very aware of the theatrical version in which one star equals one shot) of SKB exploding into a star after it had discharged.

I think that if the audience is aware of the threat to the Resistance with the Snoke dialogue and the inclusion of ‘Prepare to fire’, the revenge aspect of their attack is pretty much mitigated. If the audience understands that the base can fire several times from a single charge, we could infer that the pilots at least suspect that possibility as well.

I’ll give it a go later and see if it’s possible 😃

DigMod said:

I watched the Snap scene and found it a little confusing visually. The first time through my eyes told me the old man was speaking, then the second time my eyes told me it was Han. as far as the mix, it seems like the voice is a little too upfront and needs a longer fade in and fade out to make it more seamless. Not sure this line is needed though, but I’m sure there is a logical reason 😛

I feel like a mention of the Republic is extremely necessary here because in this edit the Republic still exists at this point. Up to this very moment in the movie, the Resistance hasn’t decided whether or not to attack the base, since in the (hopefully) reinstated scene of Sella, Leia has asked the Republic for help. In this scene, we are reminded of the Republic’s continued refusal to communicate or help, and so it is only at this point that Han suggests the Resistance go it alone.

I further tweaked the lip movement and refined the audio for this scene. Now 3PO has a line from the deleted scenes (‘Oh my, this is a catastrophe!’), and I found a shot of BB8 from later in the scene that I think does a better job covering Snap’s line. He actually turns to look in the direction of Snap, which is fortunate. The reaction shot of Poe is now where BB8 was, and also fortunate is the fact both shots are the same number of frames. There is a slight continuity issue where the guy explaining the oscillator jumps position around Poe, but it’s blink-and-you-miss-it.

Video:
https://mega.nz/#!OI8iwQyT!xdsb9t6FoixQruTWkoDPmd-MihYr-rG2gUSQHFDztTQ

Audio:
https://mega.nz/#!iYVC2DTI!GhXuAs7MCEzxfYJTqE7NFWbUJl9pqGIoUbD53ShejLo

That’s definitely an improvement. I’d say it would be worth it to include if indeed the envoy deleted scene is used as well.

^Excellent! Now we just need that deleted scene…

Sir Ridley said:

Progress! Here’s the latest version of the Maz’s castle sequence. Thoughts?

https://youtu.be/TqZeT7FN0c0

Since Rogue One just came out on Blu-ray, I thought that there might be a Star Destroyer-over-Jedha sound effect that could be used for the two effects shots, since it seems strange for Finn to be reacting to something so silent.

Here’s the full quality X-wing approach shot that I partially fixed months ago. Now the blast wreckage is almost gone and the weapon nozzle has been further cleaned up:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/206515

https://mega.nz/#!qZNzDaiY!2JwOqIjiRtiqTugy5XISdIB0gGXdh4wZqKX-i3jfn6w

JEDIT: This is version 5, not 4.
Further JEDIT: I forgot that Sir Ridley already de-wrecked the shot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXof4rOHbk&feature=youtu.be
I wouldn’t mind if those planet textures were integrated into the new shot 😉