TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released) — Page 13

Then again it doesn’t really make sense for him to turn in the original cut either. The only reason why he would are the distant shouts so that should work just the same in the new cut.

Edit: I’ve also been thinking about where to put the deleted scene and so far the only place I found is after the brief cut to Kylo searching for Rey and right before the Falcon’s landing approach on Starkiller base. But I have to admit that I’m not convinced it’ll work there but I wouldn’t place it any later since it would disrupt the final act and I haven’t been able to find any earlier place for it.

About the lone Stardestroyer idea, and the in universe reason for it being there… I’m thinking it’s there to oversee the area, making sure nobody escapes with the droid, and to direct troops and TIEs below. Fair enough, seems logical.

But if it’s there and everyone sees it’s there, there’s no need to hide anything. Assuming Kylo is on this Stardestroyer, it would make sense for him to as soon as possible go for Rey and BB8. Why wouldn’t he fly out of this Stardestroyer rather than appear from nowhere later?

It also makes everything more relatable for the audience. Instead of asking why the Stardestroyer is there and who is on it and what is the point, they can see that it brought Kylo. Everyone knows Kylo and what he wants and what danger he represents so everything is made (seemingly) clear, logically and emotionally.

But sending out Kylo also hides the other, hidden purpose, which is the large scale attack, both in universe and to the audience. To me, seeing Kylo and him actually moving toward the heroes (as opposed to a ship just floating above) gives a bigger impact than a nameless Stardestroyer with an unknown mission.

If you don’t agree, of course I’ll help with whichever scenario you prefer.

I’d say either it’s just the Stardestroyer and both the attack force and Kylo shortly behind it left the destroyer earlier and are arriving unseen. So the Stardestroyer is just there to oversee everything and to keep ships from leaving.
Or the Stardestroyer arrived in orbit and now the full attack force (TIEs and Kylo behind them) are coming directly at the base. The FO, just like the Empire, isn’t really one for surprise attacks I’d say.

But having Kylo and the attack group taking a different route really doesn’t make any sense to me.

And since having only the Stardestroyer works better with the reactions of the bar patrons I vote for using that version.

In the end though, it wouldn’t be difficult for anyone to build whatever version he/she wants since it requires only the replacement of two shots (that is if the VFX for all versions gets done properly and it looks like it will^^).

That’s true. I’ll keep working on a Kylo version for now, I’ll share when it’s done.

In regards to the rest of the scene I agree with keeping “those beasts”, and no intercutting. In regards to the controversial TIE sunset I guess there might have to be one version with and one without.

NeverarGreat said:

@Sir Ridley: Feel free to use this for your Kylo shuttle version if you’d like. I will probably upload the full AVI soon 😃

Thank you, I might! I feel like you could work a bit on the clouds, though. To me they seem a bit too transparent. I think it could look something like this: http://photorator.com/photos/images/land-of-the-rising-sun-clouds-over-mount-fuji-filled-with-the-colors-of-dawns-sunlight-by-rjapanpics-48090.jpg
Even the small clouds in front of the mountain just have some transparency at the edges, the rest is blocking the view.

NeverarGreat said:

That is probably the most natural statement for Finn to make, it just sounds a bit weird to me as it is implemented now. ‘It’s the First Order, they’ve fOUNd us!’ - with the middle part of ‘found’ sounding like it is slightly too highly pitched. Again, not a sound person, just noting what sounds weird to me.

I’m not a sound engineer either but I agree. If the sound clip for that line is available, I could take it for a spin in Audacity or Ableton Live and see what I could muster up. “Found” needs to be teeny-tiny bit slower and “OUN” balanced.

Tbh, I don’t have that much faith in myself but just trying to be useful for once, LOL! 😄

Hal 9000 said:
Star Destroyer appears. Finn returns to Han out of concern for Rey. Rey tries to send BB-8 back, and spots TIEs. Apocalypse Now shot. Maz hands off the saber, sans “they’re here.”

I like it, except that you get rid of “they’re here” instead of “those beasts”. Or do you get rid of both lines ?

I would actually keep both lines in the new context.

I really don’t like “those beasts”. It’s a very dumb line.

Get over it.

I can’t.

Then make your own edit.

Mind your own business dude. It’s a thread to discuss those things. So get off my back.

Don’t want to speak for Hal, but he has stated on multiple occasions that the only changes to this edit would be those that facilitate the Starkiller restructure. So your continued requesting of additional changes to the movie is not going to get us anywhere or add much to the discussion.

You hated the film, it’s no secret. Hal didn’t. His edit is supposed to be a baseline for other edits to work off of. If you have other changes in mind, make your own edit. It’s that simple.