Why not use the Blu-ray as the main source? I’m not aware of any visual changes to this film.
It’s a shame a DCP has never surfaced of this cut. The idea that this was a roadshow exclusive was a bit of a misnomer - several theaters which only projected digital showed the extended “roadshow” cut.
It’s how I saw it, at least. I’m not positive how prevalent it was, but I saw it at a second-run theater for about $3. It was by far the superior version.
I have a 90% complete edition almost ready. It uses a higher-quality source for the edited version, features some fine-tuned cleanup, and utilizes the new title card sources.
While the colors of the pilot are more desaturated than much of Spongebob’s original broadcast, cross-referencing with the original frame paintings uploaded to Twitter tells me that the faded look is accurate to the original elements.
That, on top of the issues inherent with this transfer, tells me that the bright colors of the VHS are likely inaccurate. Therefore, this current version will be corrected to the Season 1 HD master.
If color correction is to be done in the future, it will also be easier to have a master which matches in color over the entire transfer. Since the majority of this restoration is sourced from the edited HD version, it is easier to correct the VHS footage to that version rather than the other way around.
The print is currently at $1k. Are we still going for it?
Fingers crossed it at least includes the extra scenes added for the roadshow cut. I found better title card references if the missing footage can be found.
Excluding its ending, the film was shot on DV tape at 480p. There’s not much more detail that you could pull out of the source in a new upscale, and though the transfer has issues most of them are stylistic choices by the director.
Besides, the film was already upscaled to HD in an official Blu-ray release. Currently $6 on Amazon:
In The Heat of the Night was rereleased at the end of January with the original Mono mix by Criterion
Could you PM me the download link as well?
I appear to have found these; they have a couple of issues. For one, they are sped up to PAL, so they have a noticeable pitch shift in the original files, as well as some minor combing in other scenes. Still, great to use as reference, and once those problems are addressed they could be a definite improvement.
Things are in the works on this. Expect more news soon…
Jedi Rocks by far bothers me the most. I mean, it contradicts the whole scene, the dialogue sounds like baby gibberish, and the tone is completely wrong. It’s too weirdly choreographed a musical number, and feels too inserted into a film that didn’t need it.
It’s very possible that it will be exclusive on Disney’s future streaming service, if only for a short period. If it is, it would be a hell of a draw in for SW fans.
It is very possible that this version was struck from a print not of the final cut, like the accidental showings of the Blade Runner workprint. However, the fact that the original version then became lost makes this an unlikely scenario.
I had this same thought with sealed copies of ESB and ROTJ on Laserdisc. I ended up taking both out of the plastic; ROTJ to watch and ESB to frame on the wall.
This project was already completed by another user, using a HD 16mm element. If similar quality elements show up for Great Pumpkin or All-Stars, I may consider putting a project together with those elements.
However, what that version demonstrated is that there are more changes than just the introductions. To create a release-accurate version, a complete element would probably be for the best. Given only intros through the releases online, it seems like waiting for a high quality scan will be best for this project.
I toyed around with doing Simpsons upscales a few months back using the waifu2x algorithm.
My advice - be careful how you rip it. Season 2 in particular gave me a lot of issues due to switching between the interlaced main episode and progressive footage for the intro.
Fantastic. Count me in as well. I’ve wanted to find the LD for years and watch my original issue vhs copy every year.
Also for those who love the soundtrack as much as I do the 200gram Kevin Gray mastered LP is still available and in some ways I think even better than the Analogue Productions 45rpm version. Definitely get the 200g before it’s gone as it will go sky high in price.
Take a look on eBay for the laserdisc. It comes up every once and a while, and the prices of common discs aren’t too bad. That’s how I got my copy, at least.
Can I get a copy of this 16mm as well?
I’ve never heard of this, but it looks amazingly 80’s.
EDIT: Just checked, and it’s already been done on you-know-where, if you have access. The episodes also appear to be all up on the site you posted, as well.
for some reason that PCM track doesn’t sync up to my blu ray despite having the same duration and is at 23.976 a shame cause it’ sounds pretty good also had to convert it to PCM for it to work in mkvtoolnix corrupt file perhaps?
Unfortunately, this is just a straight rip of the PCM audio from the laserdisc. It would have to be manually resynchronized to match alongside the BD footage.
Now, if he did this with the original ride recording, it would be absolutely perfect. As it stands, it’s certainly not a bad way to relive the original ride, albeit a slightly revisionist one.
2, 3, & 4 don’t look too bad, but there are some significant problems with 1.
You’ve got some color fringing with the lights, which tells me you either did a manual correction with them or the color manipulation blew them out.
There’s also a problem with the grain structure; there’s a lot of color blotching in many parts of the image. This is likely due to the very thick grain in this scene on the original print, but many walls and objects have very poorly resolved color.
It also is significantly darker, which crushes a lot of the facial details in the scene, Neo and the postman’s eyes being prime examples.
This isn’t to say your results are poor. I understand that these are supposed to be a source to reference for a proper Blu-ray color restoration, and that job is fulfilled pretty well in the later screenshots. But DrDre’s tool isn’t an end-all be-all solution for a single-pass regrade of a film. Scanning 35mm introduces its own biases, and some scenes like this one have heavy generational loss that will require their own tactics to resolve in a way that resembles the original material.
davextreme, would you be able to put the original uncompressed files for this on MEGA or another filesharing site?
YouTube’s compression is terrible on anything lower than 720p. It specifically has a lot of trouble with macroblocking (square image artifacts across the screen) and edge aliasing (jagged edges on objects). These two greatly degrade the image quality.
I can put up my own links, for non-MySpleen users, if jimbotron235 is OK with it. Otherwise, you’re out of luck if you don’t have an account there.
Did you capture the soundtrack from this print as well? If so, at what quality?
Just curious, seeing as the BD has a 5.1 remix.
Getting there. My priority is A Charlie Brown Christmas and finishing that before this upcoming holiday.
The new version will have a full CC to attempt to improve the rather muted colors. I plan on posting some images soon, but it’s corrected using the VHS as a reference.