yhwx

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

No I’m asking what evidence in the ESPN thing? A lot of people (not just blacks but let’s say a lot of black people) thought it was offensive and shouldn’t have been done. Warb’s opinion is that those people are wrong, my opinion is that he shouldn’t give that particular opinion. I’m not saying he can’t, I’m saying he shouldn’t. What’s the available evidence that says I’m wrong or that Warb is right?

Your opinion is not contrary to Warbler’s opinion. Your opinion is opposed to Warbler’s opinion itself. You’re opposed to the idea that he has an opinion. Warbler’s opinion being wrong doesn’t make yours right.

Even if his opinion is incorrect, white privilege or not, he should be allowed to have it. And this is an open forum, so as long as he is civil he should be allowed to communicate it.

Can we just assume you’re going to agree with everything he says so you can spare us 30 more posts with the same gif?

I’m not sure of how good of a poll Public Policy Polling is, but this is a stunning result.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/08/trump-holds-steady-after-charlottesville-supporters-think-whites-christians-face-discrimination.html

Asked what racial group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 45% of Trump voters say it’s white people followed by 17% for Native Americans with 16% picking African Americans, and 5% picking Latinos. Asked what religious group they think faces the most discrimination in America, 54% of Trump voters says it’s Christians followed by 22% for Muslims and 12% for Jews. There is a mindset among many Trump voters that it’s whites and Christians getting trampled on in America that makes it unlikely they would abandon Trump over his “both sides” rhetoric.

Overall 89% of Americans have a negative opinion of neo-Nazis to 3% with a positive one, and 87% have an unfavorable opinion of white supremacists to 4% with a positive one. Just 11% agree with the sentiment that it’s possible for white supremacists and neo-Nazis to be ‘very fine people,’ to 69% who say that’s not possible.

How do eight percent of people have no opinion on white supremacists?

generalfrevious said:

yhwx said:

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

Is this a question or a statement? I can’t tell because the thread title has no punctuation.

Statement

Well yeah but you fixed your thread title and also I see what you did here.

Also you liked TFA until YouTube told you not to, so I’m not sure how KK fits into that bit of info.

It was agonybooth, not YouTube. How many times do I have to say this?

Kennedy is the one who is overseeing everything right now. She is the one who chose to play it safe and just give us what we already had while denying what we want.

Maybe when TFA first came out it was okay to be less critical of the movie because it passed the bar lowered by the prequels (i.e. Star Trek 09). But in light of Rogue One cynically exploiting the fans for profit, and bringing in such auteurs like Ron Howard and Stephen Daldry while firing Lord & Miller for yrying to do something new with the franchise, it seems right to view TFA more critically than in 2015.

That doesn’t make any sense.

Yes it does, because the context in which the film exists has changed. In 2015, it was a new beginning, going back to the roots after the disastrous PT era. Now it’s the first product in the assembly line, part of the cinematic universe trend of the 2010s, where it’s just recycling what was done before to make a profit.

Bottom line, it isn’t aging well, just like Star Trek 09.

Still doesn’t make any sense.

Most of the time, you shouldn’t grade films on a curve because of later events. Your opinion might change over time as you grow, but the “context” of a movie shouldn’t change the rating of a movie, with few exceptions.

People’s opinions of Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back don’t change because they think Return of the Jedi was modified to sell more toys.

It’s not a mistake, it’s just language evolving.

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

Is this a question or a statement? I can’t tell because the thread title has no punctuation.

Statement

Well yeah but you fixed your thread title and also I see what you did here.

Also you liked TFA until YouTube told you not to, so I’m not sure how KK fits into that bit of info.

It was agonybooth, not YouTube. How many times do I have to say this?

Kennedy is the one who is overseeing everything right now. She is the one who chose to play it safe and just give us what we already had while denying what we want.

Maybe when TFA first came out it was okay to be less critical of the movie because it passed the bar lowered by the prequels (i.e. Star Trek 09). But in light of Rogue One cynically exploiting the fans for profit, and bringing in such auteurs like Ron Howard and Stephen Daldry while firing Lord & Miller for yrying to do something new with the franchise, it seems right to view TFA more critically than in 2015.

That doesn’t make any sense.

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warb, should we call the group we’ve been talking about blacks or African Americans?

I suppose African American is the preferred term. If you want me to cease using the term black, I will.

No. From what I have heard and have been told, there isn’t really any agreement on the preferred term. Some people want to be called black, some African American. Who is right?

I’ve hard that “person of color” is becoming the “woke” term now-a-days.

Takes too long to say. 😉

Thankfully, the acronym PoC is totally clear and non-confusing.

If global warming will drive the whole world to extinction in a matter of decades, why does this matter?

TV’s Frink said:

Ok, even I think this is going too far.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/business/media/robert-lee-university-virginia-charlottesville.html

ESPN has removed an announcer from its broadcast of the University of Virginia’s first football game next month because he has the same name as a Confederate general memorialized in statues that are being taken down across the country.

The network announced late Tuesday that the announcer, Robert Lee, a part-time employee who calls about a dozen college football and basketball games a year for ESPN, would no longer participate in the broadcast of the Sept. 2 game in Charlottesville, Va., which became the center of violent clashes this month during a white supremacist gathering.

White nationalists and neo-Nazis flooded into Charlottesville, marching through the University of Virginia campus with torches, to protest the city’s plan to remove a statue of the Confederacy’s top general, Robert E. Lee.

After the violence in Charlottesville, which left one person dead, ESPN executives and Mr. Lee decided that for his safety it would be best to have him to work on a different game that Saturday, a network spokesman said.

“We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,” ESPN said in a statement. “In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play-by-play for a football game has become an issue.”

I agree.

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warb, should we call the group we’ve been talking about blacks or African Americans?

I suppose African American is the preferred term. If you want me to cease using the term black, I will.

No. From what I have heard and have been told, there isn’t really any agreement on the preferred term. Some people want to be called black, some African American. Who is right?

I’ve hard that “person of color” is becoming the “woke” term now-a-days.

The “woke” term?

http://woke.urbanup.com/8283309#.WZ3j6Nwdndw.twitter

Warbler said:

You cannot seem to understand for some reason that you can’t keep making these inflexible rules that you want to fit the entire world into for every situation.

sorry for being logical and literal.

The world isn’t logical and literal. I’m sure this board attracts people who want to think so, but the world is complex. Everything doesn’t fit into a simple grid. There are curves and blurred lines. The world isn’t perfect–and it will never be. That’s by design*.

*–Not implying a god here.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warb, should we call the group we’ve been talking about blacks or African Americans?

I suppose African American is the preferred term. If you want me to cease using the term black, I will.

No. From what I have heard and have been told, there isn’t really any agreement on the preferred term. Some people want to be called black, some African American. Who is right?

I’ve hard that “person of color” is becoming the “woke” term now-a-days.

NeverarGreat said:

Also, I find it heartening that everything has recently been quite sedate and civil on balance, despite the current state of the (inter?)national discourse.

I’m not sure about that, especially with all the middle fingers thrown around.

ray_afraid said:

Till then, courage.

https://youtu.be/NS0txu_Kzl8?t=4932

moviefreakedmind said:

Am I the only one that thinks all food tastes more or less the same? As long as it isn’t McDonald’s or something totally inedible, I’ll eat it without complaining. In fact, the more fancy, gourmet, and “better” the food, the less likely I am to enjoy it.

That sounds weird. I know certain people who can tell the difference from, for example, a real pizza and a pizza from Little Caesars, but don’t really care. I haven’t heard of anyone who can’t tell the difference, or have an inverse relationship between the quality of the food and enjoyment.

I’ve heard some people call the eclipse kinda lame. I think that that’s kinda lame.

In other thoughts, when the eclipse happened, it felt like it was getting dark at the wrong time of day. It was as dark as mid-evening, but the sun wasn’t setting, so you din’t get those atmospheric effects. It’s a really weird thing, and hard to describe.

I felt kind of tired and sleepy after the whole ordeal, with a light headache. I’ve heard other people express similar feelings.

And now for a really crappy photograph:

I tried to take this through the special eclipse glasses, because I thought that the sun’s rays might damage the glass of the camera lens. By the time I heard that it is, in fact, safe to take pictures of the sun and the eclipse with your camera, the eclipse had already almost completely faded.

Here’s a picture that approximates the feeling I described earlier. This is about four minutes after peak eclipse here. The camera didn’t capture the full feeling however, though I edited the photo to approximate it more closely:

It did feel a lot darker than the picture shows.

Finally, two photos of a sunset:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

seriously?

Yes, seriously. What’s your source on it?

I don’t think I need one, It is pretty obvious. What do you think would have been the reaction if someone tried to protest during the National Anthem in the 1950s or during WWII? I think they would have stoned the protesters(not that I am saying that what should be done or that I would want to do that).

Maybe in this years, when America was in its first anti-communist hysteria, but there were a lot of protests in later years, even at sporting events sometimes.

The process of downloading a file from a torrent is relatively easy. Just download a good torrent client, click on a link from the tracker, and you’re off to the races.

Warbler said:

It depresses me that it is not the opinion held by everyone. There was time when just about everyone held this view.

Source?

Steve Miller is still in the White House, and he’s no panacea either.

I like going to sleep late but hate waking up late.

How late do you guys sleep in? It happened around 2:30 here.

TV’s Frink said:

President Pence, you’re up.

The FAKE NEWS media said I looked at the eclipse with my naked eyes. Not true! As you can see clearly, it is one of my idiot body doubles. Jobs!

moviefreakedmind said:

It was pretty cool.

I concur.

TV’s Frink said:

I had never even heard of Antifa until last weekend.

Ditto.