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#1175144
Topic
Religion
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dahmage said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

The scientists say it was a small thing and then it became a big thing. Those are technical terms.

The scientists don’t even have to check in at the front door of Hell, they go right through the VIP entrance in the back.

Along with the women who wear yoga pants?

Um…no.

Darn. I guess you shouldn’t trust everything you see on the Internet.

as long as you still trust me.

You could just be a precocious dog.

Am I a precious little dog? My world is falling apart before my eyes!

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#1175137
Topic
Religion
Time

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

The scientists say it was a small thing and then it became a big thing. Those are technical terms.

The scientists don’t even have to check in at the front door of Hell, they go right through the VIP entrance in the back.

Along with the women who wear yoga pants?

Um…no.

Darn. I guess you shouldn’t trust everything you see on the Internet.

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#1174927
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-saw-treating-the-victims-from-parkland-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/

As I opened the CT scan last week to read the next case, I was baffled. The history simply read “gunshot wound.” I have been a radiologist in one of the busiest trauma centers in the nation for 13 years, and have diagnosed thousands of handgun injuries to the brain, lung, liver, spleen, bowel, and other vital organs. I thought that I knew all that I needed to know about gunshot wounds, but the specific pattern of injury on my computer screen was one that I had seen only once before.

In a typical handgun injury that I diagnose almost daily, a bullet leaves a laceration through an organ like the liver. To a radiologist, it appears as a linear, thin, grey bullet track through the organ. There may be bleeding and some bullet fragments.

I was looking at a CT scan of one of the victims of the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who had been brought to the trauma center during my call shift. The organ looked like an overripe melon smashed by a sledgehammer, with extensive bleeding. How could a gunshot wound have caused this much damage?

The reaction in the emergency room was the same. One of the trauma surgeons opened a young victim in the operating room, and found only shreds of the organ that had been hit by a bullet from an AR-15, a semi-automatic rifle which delivers a devastatingly lethal, high-velocity bullet to the victim. There was nothing left to repair, and utterly, devastatingly, nothing that could be done to fix the problem. The injury was fatal.

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#1174871
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/gun-rights-positive-good-and-the-evolution-of-mutually-assured-massacre

But what I noticed in these responses was this: Not only did most people think was a crazy idea. Some people – actually a lot of people – were positively shocked that the President even proposed it.

I wasn’t shocked. Not at all. And that’s not because I’m used to the President coming up with inane ideas. Not everyone follows the “gun rights” dialog as closely as we do at TPM. This idea of arming teachers and school administrators has become a commonplace response from “gun rights” advocates. They have a whole storyline about how making schools “gun free zones” encourages school massacres. The fact that Trump suggested this idea was entirely predictable. I would almost go as far as to say that it is the mainstream policy response from “gun rights” Republicans, which is to say almost all Republicans who are vocal on this issue.

But it goes back further still, more than a decade to a largely discredited and significantly disgraced “gun rights” economist named John Lott. Lott wrote some foundation studies that didn’t withstand serious scrutiny. He also got in trouble for creating fake online identities to praise his work. But that was beside the point, as the debate developed. This idea became gospel in the world of “gun rights” politics.

What Lott did was apply a kind of crude game theory to the gun question – call it Mutually Assured Massacre. The logic goes something like this. If most people are unarmed, the guy who’s carrying has tremendous power and can kill more or less with impunity, at least in the immediate aftermath of a shooting. No one can shoot back. But if everyone is armed or any given person might be armed, you’re going to be a lot more cautious about going for your firearm and shooting someone. Because they might be armed too. They might shoot back. Or the person next to them might be armed. If everyone is armed, everyone will be on their best behavior. Because they’re all equal in terms of lethal violence. Shootings will go down, not up.

In the abstract, where no humans actually exist, there’s actually a compelling logic to this. If I know you’re armed, I’ll be on my best behavior. You will too because you know I’m armed. Of course, in practice, almost everything is wrong with this logic. It relies on an extremely crude version of economic rational action and an even cruder form of game theory. This is particularly the case when you realize that the fraught, angry situations where people impulsively kill other people are by definition not rational. This doesn’t even get into situations like school shootings where the assailant usually intends to die in the massacre. It also doesn’t get into accidents, misunderstandings. It’s completely nuts.

But this basic concept: more guns, paradoxically, means more safety informs almost every aspect of current pro-gun politics. The concealed carry movement is a good example. Lott’s argument was more concealed carry permits would make people and society at large safer. A big driver of concealed carry is people who just want to walk around armed, either to make themselves feel more safe, more cool, more macho, whatever. But the policy arguments from gun rights advocates mostly come back to John Lott: more guns in private hands means more safety. Same with open carry and a bunch of other parts of the “gun rights” agenda. It’s pervasive. It’s gospel.

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#1174724
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

TM2YC said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

I’m in high school. I have many wonderful teachers. I don’t think any of them should be armed. Some of my teachers, and again, I love them, can hardly even operate a DVD player. I do not want any of them to be given firearms.

What about police officers that are extremely well trained and especially for a school environment and whom had been extremely background checked?

yhwx said:

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157761427787777

Every time another one of these mass shootings happen - right when the Republicans start telling us that the answer is more guns, guns for everyone, guns for teachers, guns for students - I think about Chris Kyle.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157915056803840

Chris Kyle was the American Sniper guy - a highly decorated Navy Seal sniper with 150 confirmed kills in the Iraq War. Whatever else is true about him, he definitely was very good at shooting guns and used to being in combat environments.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158367697723392

Kyle knew that the man he was with was dangerous. He knew he was armed - he armed him! To the degree that anyone could be forewarned and prepared for a situation, Kyle was. And yet the other guy shot two armed and trained men dead, got in a car and drove away.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158835043774470

Today a bunch of men are going to go to a gun store and they’re going to buy their third or 10th or 25th gun, because this scares them, and they think the gun is going to keep them safe.

You tell me in which scenario does a nut with gun have a better can at killing a lot of people.

  1. Going into a school where no one is armed.
  2. Going into a police station full of armed cops.

Or instead of hypotheticals, let’s use real numbers:

23 percent of emergency department shootings involved a perpetrator taking a gun from a security officer

But that’s in hospitals. Maybe schools are different.

Maybe these security officers need better training and maybe they need holsters better designed to prevent a perp from doing that.

Honestly the way some of you are talking, it is a wonder you don’t post that you think cops should no longer carry guns. Maybe the military as well.

Yeah I’m not crazy about the fact that cops have the ability to kill people. That’s something that needs fixing.

First of all, I don’t believe in the death penalty, and that’s after due process. So I certainly don’t think a cop should have that power.

So you don’t think a cop should have the ability to defend himself/herself. Got it. ok. I am not going waste my time engaging you on such stupidity.

We manage just fine in the UK without letting our Police execute members of the public

  1. the UK isn’t the US. Many more badguys are armed here.

You are so close to getting it! Why are more bad guys armed here?

BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY GUNS AND HAVE BARELY ANY RESTRICTIONS ON GETTING ONE.

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#1174721
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

  • What if the bad guy is surrounded by hostages? Are they expected to engage anyway?

obviously, this where quality training would help. Cops need to be trained to know when to shoot and when not to.

Might want to talk to black folks to see how that’s going.

  • If Chris Kyle, a highly trained marksman, and good guy with a gun, was gunned down in a shooting range, surrounded by other good guys with guns… what makes you think an (at best) amateur marksman will fare better?

He will certainly fair better than someone who is not armed!

Well he didn’t fair so well.

He’s dead.

  • What if having hundreds of guns in a single building is… bear with me now… not a great fucking idea? What if that building was filled with our children? Doesn’t that make it… an even worse fucking idea?

If the choice is having armed cops to defend our kids vs. leaving our kids unprotected, I’ll choose armed cops. Also these “hundreds of guns” if that is how many there’d be, would have to be strictly regulated. I think any guns coming into to school would have to be on the cops’ person 100% of the time. No leaving them in bathrooms, no locked closet with guns . . . ect.

But it’s extremely hard to get people to follow these protocols. And if you get more people, it’s going to be harder to harangue all of them in to following those protocols. If there’s more guns, there’s more opportunity for mistake. If you stand in the middle of a road for ten seconds, you’re much more likely to get hurt by a car in a car accident than if you did the same for one second. Your exposure to the possibility of a bad outcome is greatly reduced. And that’s why we need less exposure to guns.

We can do this. We can get legislation passed. Legislation has already been passed in some states, as Mrebo I believe said. It took decades to bring down Jim Crow, but it only happened because of hard work and protest. Now the world moves much faster. I’ll admit it, not all days I’m as optimistic as I am today, but we can still get something done.

Post
#1174705
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

I mean seriously, get over this, get over me, and get over yourself. There’s more to this site than fixing whatever you think is wrong with me.

Frink, if you really think _ender has to be the kind of friend you want him to be, you might want to rein it in there.

That makes zero sense.

To you. Hence the problem.

But he isn’t requesting that _ender change himself. Neither am I. So it doesn’t make sense if you think about it that way.

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#1174692
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

darth_ender said:

For what it’s worth, this forum takes too much of my time and energy. I know the regulars here will criticize me for what I’m about to do. I know that two years from now, someone will say something like, “Remember when darth_ender took his ball and went home?” Regardless, I think I should just give greater energy to real life and stop wasting it trying to be friends with Internet people, especially people who really don’t care. Overall, it’s been a pleasant seven-ish years, people. I’m sure I’ll continue to read the threads I care about. I am just going to log out on all my devices and don’t intend to log back in much if ever again. Thank you for the enjoyable interactions. I mean that sincerely.

You probably won’t read this, but I think you needed this. You took this whole deal a little bit too seriously. And yes, I know that’s a little bit of hypocrisy coming from me.

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#1174672
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

darth_ender said:

yhwx said:

darth_ender said:

I don’t see how I am goading him. I was not rude or disrespectful. I am trying to converse in a more appropriate thread about what I feel is a problem. I am handling it in a very adult-like fashion, and frankly, I don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand.

Your proud declaration that your are in fact handling this an adult manner is what I’m talking about with the “holier than thou” attitude. You keep calling yourself out on your own supposed good deeds.

darth_ender said:

I love how that’s not at all what I was doing. What I was saying is that, considering how often I try to do the right thing, I don’t think it’s very fair that I am the one getting called out by a moderator.

Here’s more of the quite vain appearance you’ve projected to the world in your thread. Always emphasizing the good-doer that you are. Stuff those other folks. You feel that you know best. At least that’s how it appears. It also doesn’t help that your posts are quite wordy and rambling. That doesn’t project a good feeling to the reader.

Also, LOL at wordy and rambling posts. I guess when you specialize in one- to three-word replies, anything else would seem wordy.

Source?

Also, often the most verbose people are the least knowledgeable ones.

Post
#1174666
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

darth_ender said:

yhwx said:

darth_ender said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

TV’s Frink said:

I found the reason I started the thread on page 18!

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

darth_ender said:

Past couple of days, yes.

Sorry to say this, but I agree.

Don’t be sorry, I can handle it.

Of course, you would also think a grown man could handle another man who is effeminate and/or gay, or a few internet people who think it’s weird that he likes My Little Pony, especially without having to start daydreaming about ripping those people’s throats out, but you’d be wrong.

I don’t wanna give away who it was about in public, though. PM me if you want to know.

Case in point.

Oooh a gotcha moment. You must feel vindicated.

Thing is I’m not denying anything in this thread. I just don’t really care that much.

You’re pretty good at hiding behind your pain, you know. You say you don’t care, but you do. The reason why you behave the way you do is to try to cover it up.

Thanks for the commentary, Dr. Chyron.

Thanks for the sycophantry, Dr. yhwx.

Hmmmm…

It’s obvious you don’t know what the word means.

It’s not even in the Oxford American Dictionary. It’s quite an obscure and arcane word.

So if I were to say you are obnoxious because you like to try to point out how intelligent you are, would this be an equivalent grievance.

How am I pointing out how intelligent I am here? I didn’t know the word before I looked it up; obviously I’m a dummy. I’ve said as much several times (me being a dummy, that is).

And who cares if it’s archaic? I knew that while posting it. The point remains true.

Okay then. Let’s play this game. Here’s the definition of sycophantic:

behaving or done in an obsequious way in order to gain advantage: a sycophantic interview.

Being sycophantic is entirely presupposed on an intent to be overly obedient to gain some sort of advantage. If that intent is not in a person’s mind, they cannot be sycophantic. I’ve rarely, if ever, just done something here so that I could get more social points awarded to me by The Great Frink.

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#1174655
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

darth_ender said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

TV’s Frink said:

I found the reason I started the thread on page 18!

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

darth_ender said:

Past couple of days, yes.

Sorry to say this, but I agree.

Don’t be sorry, I can handle it.

Of course, you would also think a grown man could handle another man who is effeminate and/or gay, or a few internet people who think it’s weird that he likes My Little Pony, especially without having to start daydreaming about ripping those people’s throats out, but you’d be wrong.

I don’t wanna give away who it was about in public, though. PM me if you want to know.

Case in point.

Oooh a gotcha moment. You must feel vindicated.

Thing is I’m not denying anything in this thread. I just don’t really care that much.

You’re pretty good at hiding behind your pain, you know. You say you don’t care, but you do. The reason why you behave the way you do is to try to cover it up.

Thanks for the commentary, Dr. Chyron.

Thanks for the sycophantry, Dr. yhwx.

Hmmmm…

It’s obvious you don’t know what the word means.

It’s not even in the Oxford American Dictionary. It’s quite an obscure and arcane word.

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#1174652
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

darth_ender said:

I don’t see how I am goading him. I was not rude or disrespectful. I am trying to converse in a more appropriate thread about what I feel is a problem. I am handling it in a very adult-like fashion, and frankly, I don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand.

Your proud declaration that your are in fact handling this an adult manner is what I’m talking about with the “holier than thou” attitude. You keep calling yourself out on your own supposed good deeds.

darth_ender said:

I love how that’s not at all what I was doing. What I was saying is that, considering how often I try to do the right thing, I don’t think it’s very fair that I am the one getting called out by a moderator.

Here’s more of the quite vain appearance you’ve projected to the world in your thread. Always emphasizing the good-doer that you are. Stuff those other folks. You feel that you know best. At least that’s how it appears. It also doesn’t help that your posts are quite wordy and rambling. That doesn’t project a good feeling to the reader.

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#1174630
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

TV’s Frink said:

I found the reason I started the thread on page 18!

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

darth_ender said:

Past couple of days, yes.

Sorry to say this, but I agree.

Don’t be sorry, I can handle it.

Of course, you would also think a grown man could handle another man who is effeminate and/or gay, or a few internet people who think it’s weird that he likes My Little Pony, especially without having to start daydreaming about ripping those people’s throats out, but you’d be wrong.

I don’t wanna give away who it was about in public, though. PM me if you want to know.

Case in point.

Oooh a gotcha moment. You must feel vindicated.

Thing is I’m not denying anything in this thread. I just don’t really care that much.

You’re pretty good at hiding behind your pain, you know. You say you don’t care, but you do. The reason why you behave the way you do is to try to cover it up.

Thank you for your commentary, Dr. Chyron.

Post
#1174626
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

https://www.caseyliss.com/2018/2/17/no-putting-more-guns-in-schools-is-not-a-good-idea-you-friggin-morons

again, I wasn’t talking about arming teachers, I was talking about having extremely and specially well trained police officers(or perhaps a whole new unit of law enforcement for guarding schools(I have to think of a good name for such)).

Still, a lot of the same questions apply. For example:

  • Regardless, how do teachers [in this case, police officers] know who the good guy is, and who the bad guy is? How do we ensure there’s no friendly fire?
  • What if the bad guy is surrounded by hostages? Are they expected to engage anyway?
  • If Chris Kyle, a highly trained marksman, and good guy with a gun, was gunned down in a shooting range, surrounded by other good guys with guns… what makes you think an (at best) amateur marksman will fare better?
  • What if having hundreds of guns in a single building is… bear with me now… not a great fucking idea? What if that building was filled with our children? Doesn’t that make it… an even worse fucking idea?
Post
#1174611
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

darth_ender said:

DominicCobb said:

darth_ender said:

DominicCobb said:

darth_ender said:

DominicCobb said:

darth_ender said:

oojason said:

I think many on here have some, if not varying degrees of all of those flaws you posted there d_e, yourself included.

If you’re going to try and use this thread to try and goad Frink - or carry on/escalate from the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread - then think on mate.

Of course we all have such flaws. But there is no doubt that Frink’s character is unique to this forum, usually in a pleasant sense, periodically to an aggravating sense.

However, I am not trying to goad or escalate anything. I was trying to follow mrebo’s advice from that thread:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

To be honest, I genuinely feel you’re not as enjoyable or nice as you used to be. Or maybe I’m just nicer than I used to be, leading me to sit on my high horse. 😛

I think you and Warb are just suffering faulty memory, but ok.

Im getting flashbacks of the Luke Skywalker debate. I think Frink is as delightful as ever 🐣

I think we should give the dead the respect they deserve in this thread and not get bogged down in petty internecine fights (definition provided for Dom’s benefit).

I don’t see how I am goading him. I was not rude or disrespectful. I am trying to converse in a more appropriate thread about what I feel is a problem. I am handling it in a very adult-like fashion, and frankly, I don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand. So far, I don’t believe we’re even close to that point.

What’s more, you swooped in on my comment in the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread because a lack of careful phrasing made it look like a portion of my comment was a broad generalization, even though the latter part of the comment should have clarified. You quickly corrected me and stated that I shouldn’t generalize (to which I agreed) and presumably accepted my point that liberals and atheists should be respectful of religious/conservative individuals who have died. Literally, you castigated me for not using the word ‘many’ in one of two appropriate places. Meanwhile, Frink’s disrespectful comments, both before and after that, received no moderation, and they were clearly far more offensive.

Following all this, I come to this thread to carry on what I hope will be a productive conversation and where Frink might actually acknowledge that he has been ruder lately, and whom do you call out? Me. Never mind the goading that Frink gives chyron8472 routinely. Never mind the harassment that he leveled against Warbler in the NFL thread leading up to the Super Bowl, refusing for pages to acknowledge that he should back down. Never mind the instances where he decides to pick on yhwx and where it clearly is hurting his feelings. Never mind his lack of remorse on most of these occasions. No, call out darth_ender, who 95% of the time tries to be the peace maker. I really appreciate that.

Regardless of whether or not I agree with you (which I actually do, to an extent), I don’t think making yourself out to be the savior of behavioral decency on the forum is really helpful to this discussion.

I love how that’s not at all what I was doing. What I was saying is that, considering how often I try to do the right thing, I don’t think it’s very fair that I am the one getting called out by a moderator.

Yeah and I wasn’t saying you shouldn’t say that. But when you say something like you’re a peace maker 95% of the time (or trying to be), it’s distracting. I almost just posted “95% of the time? Really?” but I’m trying to be a little more constructive.

Well, I kind of appreciate your effort, but that’s like Warbler saying, “I would normally sigh here but I won’t.”

Not if the rest of my post is explaining my issue your post rather than just scoffing at it.

Respectfully, far too often you try to make yourself out to be the only adult here. I know your intentions are in the right place, but it’s honestly kind of annoying.

Perhaps it was the wrong choice of words. What I was doing was acknowledging that I have my lapses and descend into fighting, but 95% of the time, I feel I maintain maturity and keep the peace. I don’t mean that I act as a policeman for others (because usually I just butt out), but I mean I try not to contribute to a problem.

I mean, honestly, I find you jumping in, and mostly critiquing me instead of the guy who clearly does more of the antagonizing, annoying. It’s almost you doing what you don’t like me doing. On the other hand, I don’t really care that much, and I’m just pointing it out because I do feel that Frink does get more free passes from peers and mods alike.

I only butt in because of that bone I had to pick with your post (I appreciate your clarification).

If it wasn’t for that I literally just wouldn’t have commented. I really don’t have anything to say against the rest of your post. I personally don’t think Frink is a problem and I certainly don’t think he’s any different than he used to be. Sometimes he goes too far but then he reins it in. You said your piece and that’s fine. I don’t have an issue with that.

Again, my point is just that when you make yourself out to be more mature or whatever, it’s annoying. I don’t think you can really say that that’s what I was doing by criticizing you, mostly because my goal on this forum isn’t maturity. I like being silly and sarcastic. When I’m at work, I don’t have much opportunity for that besides on here. That’s part of the reason why I find that kind of thing you do sometimes to be annoying.

I’m silly and sarcastic and even tease quite a bit, so I don’t understand the feeling that I try to be high and mighty. I just try to be respectful, and when I realize I’ve crossed a line, I try to apologize quickly and back down. Now that I’ve said this, maybe someone will say I’m trying to toot my own horn, but what I am actually doing is trying to admit that I make mistakes, but honestly say that I try to correct them.

Let me give an example. A month or so ago, I made a joke about menstruation. TV’s Frink, who has made his fair share of crude jokes, said, “I expected better from you,” or something very close. Now, I didn’t interpret what he said as being ‘holier than thou’. I made a joke that someone thought was tasteless or offensive. I apologized and edited the post. But TV’s Frink has made jokes that I have found offensive and unnecessary. Sometimes, I see it hurting someone else. I see the individual being picked on ask for him to stop, and instead, he continues to push buttons. Sometimes, he apologizes, but most of the time, he does not. This is not me trying to look better than him. This is me trying to say, “Look, you are calling me out on my faults. It would be nice if someone called him out more because I see far more people hurt by his behavior than mine.”

The style of your writing us wha made me say that you have a habit of acting holier than thou. While you and Frink may have done the same thing in substance, when you do it, it always feels like you’re acting as if you are better than everybody else and are immune to any sort of folly. It’s hard to articulate, but I think it’s something in the style.

Post
#1174530
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

darth_ender said:

yhwx said:

_ender, you have a habit of acting holier than thou at times.

Define that for me in the context of this forum, because I feel that correcting others is something we all do.

There’s a certain righteousness about it — the tenor of your posts makes it sound like you’re crusading around the forum, ridding it of the sin that has affected oh so many people.

Hopefully that communicates it.

I have jumped to your defense before. Would you rather I not do so? Is that too “holier than thou”?

The problem isn’t with if you’ve defended me or not. It’s your attitude towards this kind of thing.