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Harmy said:

Pretty much, yeah.

 ok cool.  as long as the inconsistencies are consistent with the original inconsistencies ;-)

harmy, on the latest work print i noticed the colors in the desert seem to jump from light brown to a very vibrant yellow which i found jarring.  It starts when c3po and luke look for r2d2 and ends when they arrive at bens hut.  I can point out the shots and state whether they are light brown or vibrant yellow if you like.  were the colors that way originally?  i assume you'd know the best out of anyone.

Harmy said:

So if someone has some crazy suggestion they want to see done, now's probably a good time ;-)

fix the SKINTONES....(waits for czech profanity).

but seriously the far matte shot of mos eisley when ben and luke are looking at it while standing on the ridge looks a tad too yellow.  was it that way originally?

i noticed in the desert when c3po turns around and says "no more adventures" the sky has been color corrected to match better with the other shots.  while i think it flows better was it that color originally?  i'm just curious, not saying you should change it back or anything.

by the way i love what you did with the colors when owen and luke are buying the droids.  i can see their faces much better.

i assume you will be releasing 5 other 2 gb reels?  lol...looks like i may need to buy another hard drive.

just skimmed though work print 3 reel one (i will watch it completely later with pop corn and refreshments) and all i can say is....harmy, you are the anti-george lucas.  bravo. 

if you would like some constructive citicism i noticed at 3:10:11 the shot seems kind of dark.

Harmy said:

WILL YOU FUCKING SHUT UP ABOUT THE FUCKING COLOURS!!! JUST HEARING THE WORD SKINTONE MAKES MY OWN FUCKING SKIN CRAWL!!!

There, sorry, had to do that, because when I posted the WP2.3 I said this:

Again, try to keep the colour comments to a minimum, since the colour correction is very much preliminary. I want to know if I forgot to undo some changes and stuff like that.

And being quite tired, the above was my actual real-world reaction ;-)

 oops...lol. yeah sorry, missed that memo about the colors.  i just saw a link in your post and clicked on it eagerly with out reading the disclaimer :-)

i'm sure harmy is tired of tweaking colors non stop but i think skin tones are really important. 

maybe tarkins skin was that yellow originally but it just seems off to me

i know it's probably too late to point out but in WP 2.3 i noticed that alot of the characters have very yellow skin...look at tarkin after the rebel meeting about the death star!

i'm not sure if much can be done about it at this point though.

I always thought of han stepping on jabbas tail as a way to cover for the fact that george had planned jabba to just be a human originally.  in the original footage han walks behind the human jabba without stepping on anything.  but if you change him to the new jabba there is no way han could have walked around him without encountering his tail so lucas covered for that with a lame special effect of displacing the image of harrison ford that looks almost like a jump cut.

just more proof that the guy was making it up as he went.

awesome.  how does lapti nek look?  better than the gout?

ummm...there is no one on earth who would think that is seamless.  I don't mean to start a flame war here but this kinda seems like a troll post to me.

i noticed that one of the laser shots that was censored in the special editions is censored in your WP 2.2.  I don't have WP 2.2 on me right now so i can't give you the time code but it's when luke and han get to the prison cell holding and the guard behind the conosles goes to pick up his gun when the fighting starts.  instead of showing him get shot it immediately cuts to him falling backward.  I think the uncensored shot was in version 1.  did you leave it out to see if we were paying attention? ;-)  i'm surprised no one else has caught that.

wow

if the whole movie is as good as that lightsaber sequence i'd be willing to wait until 2013 if necessary.

star wars has never looked this pleasing to the eye since the original theatrical release.

ok so i started watching the workprint and recording all the parts with dancing greys due to brightening but once i got to the death star meeting room with all the generals i stopped because it pretty much became continuous since that scene is very dark in nature.  on the contrary on really bright scenes the dancing greys are not there.  here are most of the scenes before the death star meeting room with dancing greys.

5:11-5:13
6:19-6:22 <---when c3po says "hey you're not permited in there its restricted"
6:28-6:29 <---when c3po says "you overweight glob of grease"
6:31-6:33 <---right before c3po says "secret mission, what plans?"
6:39-6:40 <---right before c3po says "i'm goin to regret this"
6:45-6:48 <---when the pod is shot out i noticed greys around it..intentional?
6:49-6:54 <---"hold your fire there's no life forms it must have short circuited" mostly on the back of the guy on the left
12:35-12:42  <---alot of dvnr smearing on the jawas as they take r2 to the sand crawler in the background
12:55-13:49 <--alot of dancing greys especially in the vaccume tube as it comes down to suck up r2
14:23-14:32 <---de'se'd shot of sand crawler
14:51-15:01 <---taps r2, "wake up"

that's as far as i got.  they really look like compression artifacts brought out by brightening.  I don't think it's my media player because i played the workprint in media player classic, vlc, and windows media player and still noticed them.

does anyone else notice these?  It might be my monitor settings.

I guess you could make the case that it is extra detail uncovered from the crushed blacks but they look unnatural.  when i'm in a dark room i don't notice grey pixels dancing around.

i don't want to seem like i'm trying to tell you how to do your job though...because you are obviously very good at it :-)

sorry i haven't been able to get you those scenes with too much brightness.  i have been busy.  it's not that big of a deal any way.

also while i think it is cool you are taking color correction requests I think you should be careful.  if you take too many the end result may feel like a patch work quilt.  it looks like you are basing some of the colors off of mike vertas sample.  which may or may not have the same color timing as the gout which you are basing the rest off of.  I think for the most part you should try and base the colors off of as few sources as possible to maintain consistency.

Harmy said:

That wouldn't help, it was in there too.

 are you talking about the dvnr smearing?

I guess that's not what i have a problem with because i can see uncle owens and lukes faces much better in the 2004 hdtv broadcasts.  must be the colors instead

i'll get those scenes with the bright black levels for you ASAP

couldn't you use the 2004 hdtv footage when you see uncle owen and lukes faces when they are buying the droids?  might look odd though when spliced in with the other footage

i just got done watching the work print and i am super excited.  I however noticed that there are some scenes that have been brightened alot and thus have elevated black levels.  The blacks look grey and creates the effect of looking through wax paper.  It probably wouldn't be noticable if you adjusted your monitors settings though.  I can point out the scenes if you are interested in fixing them.

also i like the warmer color pallete but in some scenes it has made characters faces harder to see.  mostly lukes and owens faces when they come out to buy the droids.  however if this was present in the original film then i guess it is correct.

but overall it is a vast improvement to v1.  any prediction on when part 2 of the work print will be done?

also i was wondering when you do esb and rotj v2 will You_Too be providing you with the color corrected blu ray footage?

skimed through the work print and the middle shot kind of bothered me

mainly because the sky colors are so different. the first shot comes almost immediately before and the third shot immediately after.  can you color correct the middle one or possibly rotoscope v1s sky in?

you are awesome man.  downloaded all the files in one fell swoop. rapidshare must have been feeling generous.

I would love to see this latest work print harmy!

does this mean you will be brightening all the stars through out the movie?

curse you megaupload and your unavailable links!

i will be clicking you every 30 seconds until my demands are met

EDIT:  just got done watching it and WOW...that was superb.  the stars changing wasn't that noticable to me as it was for some other people.  Although it would be nice if it could be fixed.  also the ending was a riot.

This is the thing i'm looking forward to the most...even more than christmas. 

There are just some things money can't buy ;-).

that new title shot lookes sexy as hell by the way.

sorry if anyone else has said this but I noticed on the 30 minute work print that after the opening crawl the star field seems to change brightness.  Is this right?