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- The Power of Two (The Acolyte as a prequel to the prequels) [RELEASED; Runtime 2h 39mns; 4K]
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It would be great to have the Padme Funeral scene from Totj in the last episode!
Big fan of a lot of your stuff. Personally, I am not a big fan of just adding scenes so characters have screen time. It was my biggest problem with BB2 that those Phee and Batch scenes in the first half felt so disjointed/disconnected.
BB3 Feedback:
Very nice finale. Overall this edit is very good, has good pacing and works nicely. That is an achievement considering the source material.
A few suggestions that came to mind while watching:
Omega is told to stay on Pabu by all characters and then just comes with them anyway to the Snow planet.l without a reason given for it.
The cyanide equivalent hidden in the teeth is not etablished and never comes back. The reference to it in the interrogation scene can be cut without losing anything.
After Rex sees the target hologram of Omega, it cuts to the Batch waiting for Echo. (who was with them the last time we saw them) This feels a bit disorienting. Showing Echo leave or working with another timejump somehow might resolve the issue.
Adding the Batch attaching to the science vessel (very trimmed version) might flow better. Between Echo being onboard in Disguise and the Batches Ship being attached to that vessel it is really felt that something is missing here.
I really think these are super close to perfection. Now on to Rebels. 😃
Just finished BB 2 (had to pause yesterday).
It worked quite well, I especially Like that both movie 1 and 2 now end with the Batch facing Crosshair, but with almost flipped dynamics as to who is ready to forgive the other side. What I have not mentioned so far: The technical quality of these edits is also top notch
Got 2 more suggestions, 1 nice2have and 1 that I feel is needed for continuity:
It would be a nice thing to have the shuttle crash onscreen and not just mentioned in dialogue. It is awfully convenient that there just happens to be a shuttle crash either way, so this is more nice2have and I see the reason for cutting it, since the scene could be hard to place pacing wise.
The one thing that took me out of the movie was that we did not see Batcher being freed, but Omega still refers to his empty box. I think this could be fixed in 2 ways: Either the scene of Batcher being freed could be put in, or the direct reference to her Box being empty could be removed. (with the 2nd option implying that she just got let loose with all the other dogs.)
The big thing this edit does right imho is to jump over most of season 2. While there are a few things I liked there, it is almost impossible to get around the Phee and Pabu introduction, which always messes things up. Looking forward to part 3 and the Rebels stuff.
Of the points I mentioned, I really think establishing Cid and AZ is the big one, although believe me I GET the urge ro get rid of her. xD
BB2 Feedback:
I think the Crawl can be a bit more vague. Should be enough to mention that the Batch is laying low. Phee does not need to be introduced by name here.
In the same vein, it should be enough if the crawl says that Echo and Rex are off together.
Also, showing the attack of Rex and Echo on that convoy and extracting the data would be a good, action filled start to the edit. And it would establish the stolen data a bit better.
Furthermore, if direct references to Crosshairs crime are taken out, it would be implied in this edit that Crosshair is just taken prisoner because he is supposed to be questioned about the whereabouts of his squad. Which means his portion of the Crawl can be omitted and we don’t have such a big thing happening offscreen.
Ideally, there would an “Intermission” short movie or something that has Crosshairs journey in it. But I think that goes a bit against your vision.
Feedback for BB1:
I do like a lot of the choices in this edit. The way the training room sequence from ep1 was cut around was super elegant. The time jump also worked quite nicely.
The edit does not establish why Omega is in the cell. By adding that scene back in Lulu would also get established.
Right before the time jump, after Crosshairs assignment, a scene could be added of the Batch meeting Rex in Cids bar. (implying that they are there to meet Rex) This would set up the events after the timejump nicely.
I think a more direct establishing of Cid would be great. A scene of the Batch getting rewarded for a successful mission and getting the next one after the time jump could work wonders. (edit: this could maybe also be used to show that AZ now hangs out at the bar, so this is properly set up for movie 2, when AZ is the whole reason to return to Cid)
The ending scene is a good fit thematically, but it could do with some setup. Maybe it could also help to cut the reference to the footage being taken from Ramparts Venator. If that line gets cut, the implication could be that it is the recording of the batches ship.
The audio levels seem unbalanced.
Started the Bad Batch 1 and the Star Wars Medley almost blew my ears off, then when it transitioned into the episode the sound was way too silent.
Sent some mails, curious to see what you did to Bad Batch and especially rebels. Condensing that show into 4 movies seems like a pretty tough challenge.
Hi. New to this site and just wondering where I can see this revised Episode 1?
One of my main reasons for signing up here was to ask if anyone has ever made or even proposed edits I’ve been thinking about, which I believe would go some way to salvaging The Phantom Menace.
These are basically sound edits - Namely, entirely replacing Jar Jar and the rest of the Gungan’s voices and using a deeper tone and alien language. This would allow all Jar Jar’s dialogue to be replaced with something more credible delivered via subtitles.
The Anti Cheese Edits have done this.
totally preferable to the original
Just out of curiousity, what is the status? 😃
And by no means should you feel pressured by this. Private life takes priority. 😃
Got sidetracked into tinkering with this and I have an overall working structure, but 1 problem.
General structure:
The episodes plays out as normal. When Echo gets hit with the food tray, we have a little flashback to the Clone Wars Citadel Rescue (Both scenes have an “Echo, look out!” which is a nice bridge), which abruptly cuts off and shows Echo being freed in the S7 Episode of CW. (Which bridges nicely into him not wanting to be plugged into machines when he wakes up.
The big change comes into play once Crosshairs chip gets amplified. Since I want to skip most of season 1, I use this amplification process as the reason for the scar on his head. Which works nicely. Tech already mentions that the chips do not seem to have an effect on them (except maybe Crosshair), so that whole story arc of removing the chips is not needed. It even will make Crosshairs turn later on even more meaningful, since he has to overcome the chip, which in this version will still be there and active. Also, having the scar there as a symbol of the empires control over him is more interesting to me than it just being a random wound.
After the Batch escapes (i cut off the conversation at “I know someone who can help us” - Implying it is Rex they are talking about), I jump directly to the end of the season, showing the young Clones getting deported and the contract with Kamino getting canceled and the Leadership of Kamino planning a secret departure. The talk in the Hangar between Crosshair and Rampart talking about their plan for the Kaminoans follows.
After that, I show the Batch meeting up with Rex (No Sid), to finish off their journey and paying off the setup of Rex in the Flashback earlier.
Following this I go into the Prime Minister of Kamino being disposed off and the destruction of Kamino, with the Bad Batch not being present for this. Episode ends with the first tease of Tantiss.
It all kinda works. In this cut, the Empire comes to Kamino to identify the valuable assets worth extracting and once that is done, destroys the city. Pretty ruthless and just feels like a well oiled, fast moving evil machine.
There is one scene that poses a problem though: The moment the batch escapes and Crosshair comes to stop them. For my idea to work, he needs to have his scar here already. I tried to cut out the parts where his helmet is off, but that just did not flow very well. I now tried to work in a shot from the scene in the training room of the finale, adjusting the background and color a bit so it fits better. And this works better, but since in that scene an alarm goes off, we have crosshair looking left and right in surprise. Tried to play that in turn off by being caused by blasterfire of his mates, but it does not quite feel right. Preview clip here, no work into the sound done yet. Need to figure out the path first.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OJLsmGyBdCyHPqDT_4__oC7UXx1K5pEc
Currently I am struggling to find a better idea for this, and with this i am not really happy.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA? 😃
Oh, btw. I also intercut this with Tales of the Empire, which really amplifies the themes of the episodes, but that is beside the point for the time being.
Clone Wars Refocused has a nice cut down 20 minute version of it, which would be my recommendation.
You can check for more options here:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/An-Index-Of-Projects-Help-Thread-for-Star-Wars-Fan-Edits-and-Other-Projects/id/59793
Could any Peter Cushing footage in another movie suffice to add Tarkin to the Prequels even for a cameo as an Admiral, perhaps on Anakin’s battalion? Could one incorporate an idea of him being the one to design Vader’s suit?
I could survey his Frankenstein movies but I’m not really sure if one could use material from it considering he spends the entire time in Victorian era fashion.
Your best shot would probably be to deepfake Tarkin onto another character in the background.
But as is, for me the cameo in RotS is enough. And he also shows up in Clone Wars, so no urgent need imo.
would like a link as well 😉
Since it is an animated movie, it would need to have been rendered in 4k. So it kinda does not matter all too much how high the resolution for the 35mm film is.
If it was released in 2010, chances are quite high it was not rendered in 4k. You might get a bit more detail than the 1080p version, but I doubt it would be much.
Anyone has a good source (5.1 sound) for Bad Batch and Tales or knows how I can create one myself?
When Boba Fett mugs the camera in the SE Jabba the Hutt scene in ANH, add a line, “You’re next, hehehe.”
This and make it the voice of Ryan Reynolds.
Sounds super promising!
Sounds great!
What baffles me is: There is so much legit criticism one can bring forth regarding these projects… There is not even the need to make up “Anti-Woke” arguments.
Or maybe easier: A reflected shot hits the ceiling, smoke comes down, the Droids keep shooting, when the smoke clears the jedi are gone.
Has anyone ever tried to slow them down or add a smoke cloud that covers their disappearance or something?