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We are only releasing Grindhouse versions of Empire Strikes Back, because we had them available, and it was not our main focus.

The prints of Return of the Jedi are already in very good shape, so no point in releasing those.

Also, our main focus is Star Wars, so there won't be any early releases of that either.

Their might be some Grindhouse releases after the main version, however, there are samples of Star Wars out to experiment on.

Team Negative1

I've known some people that have never gotten downloads to work directly from usenet, but that was awhile ago. Programs may have improved since then.

Team Negative1

Those aren't direct download links, just pointers to the usenet file parts.

Team Negative1

Thanks for the post, looking forward to the rest. Another scan would be nice at some point.

Team Negative1

We'll look into it. Sorry about the issues. At some point a torrent will be up on Myspleen which might be easier to get.

Team Negative1

We're posting a clip from Reel 4 for you to experiment on. It is 11 min, 500 megs MP4, 6k bitrate.

- Uncropped

- Unstabilized

- No color correction (Red faded)

- Original dirt and scratches

- Warping

- Tears

- Some visible effects shots

- No sound

- Header and tail included

This is for people to play around with, and see if they can recover information from it. 

We recommend recoloring the scenes using a different source, as these are too faded to really restore.

Details, and links at reddit under AMPSdeux.

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http://www.reddit.com/r/AMPSdeux/comments/2rsy41/star_wars_and_empire_strikes_back_grindhouse/

Team Negative1

As part of the continuing Grindhouse series, we will be revisiting and reposting the 11 minute clip from Reel 4 faded Eastman in 1080p.

Details and links at AMPSdeux are coming shortly.

Team Negative1

Harmy should be getting the ending Yub Nub dance sequence shortly.

Team Negative1

Check out ESB Deconstructed for the RAW version. Also, there was an 11 minute Raw sample of a faded Star Wars Reel 4. Check AMPSdeux for details.

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http://www.reddit.com/r/AMPSdeux/comments/2rsy41/star_wars_and_empire_strikes_back_grindhouse/

Team Negative1

We are hoping to get this up on Myspleen shortly. There may have been a preview on usenet, but it wasn't all the files.

The full archive will be about 11.1 Gigs total.

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1 ESB Deconstructed

2 ESB Color Correction 1

3 ESB Comparisons (2x,3x,4x)

4 ESB Test cleanups, and color correction

Team Negative1

Thanks, hope to see it up soon. Just checking back.

Team Negative1

There will be screenings of The Empire Strikes Back in London.

Tickets on sale soon : March 18

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http://www.secretcinema.org/tickets/

Details here:

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http://www.slashfilm.com/secret-cinema-empire-strikes-back/#more-284498

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Release the raw. We can do our own correction.

Thanks.

Team Negative1

These are not meant to be watched as is. They are mostly for experimentation, and modifying on a computer. Its simple to put them in letterboxed formats, as some people will do that.

Viewing them on a Ultra Widescreen or 21:9 monitor allows for easier fullscreen with nearly the correct theatrical aspect ratio.

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We have some footage from an earlier project that the previous member, -1 did for Star Wars :

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/star-wars-evolution-the-evolution-of-video-formats/topic/13546/

That might be continued.

Also someone else started an extended version:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Extended-Edition/topic/16611/page/2/

Finally, we're thinking of making a 'Super Grindhouse' version of Empire Strikes Back with the deleted scenes, but no clean up, since they work better without it.

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Each release has served a different purpose.

The Grindhouse is the most advanced version using the best reels and parts and extensive color cleanup.

The DCP was the previous version used for projection.

This RAW version is for archival purposes and experimentation for those that want to play around with fixing the various issues. Also included is a different color corrected version with more saturated colors and some minor cleanup done on it.

Team Negative1

We are almost ready for a release shortly. Here are some details:

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March 2015,

Here is an archive of original scan of the first print we had.

There are 2 versions included here:

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1 1080p Non corrected Raw Version

2 720p Color corrected Version

Also included are several comparisons of different prints,

using selected reels:

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1 - 2 prints [original and partial Fuji]

2 - 3 prints [original, Eastman, and Fuji]

3 - 4 prints [of reel 3]

The first can be used as a reference version, although a

small segment of Reel 2 has been inserted.

This is for people to see the origin of our scans, and

how some of it was used for the Grindhouse version.

You can experiment with fixing it, and to see a color reference,

we have included a 720p downscale also.

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There are also some test color corrections and cleanup

to show what can be done.

There are numerous issues with the scan as listed below,

although it is watchable.

For : Original Version 0 Deconstructed Workprint

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Format : 1080p MP4 high profile

        VIDEO : 1920x868 .h264 video

        AUDIO : AAC 192k 48k Stereo English

Corrections : Added in partial scene at Reel 2.

              Added in credits from Grindhouse.

- Uncropped

- Not letterboxed

- Original dirt and scratches

- No color correction

- Warped scenes

- Blurred scenes

- Unstabilized scenes

- Platter scratches

- Sprocket scratches

- Visible garbage mattes

- Visible mattes

- Visible effects in composite shots

- Header for Reel 1 and Footer for Reel 6

- NOT compatible with GOUT sound

- Includes a basic Stereo soundtrack

There are some glitches at the reel change areas, and also

a few sound glitches.The second half of Reel 3 has some

framerate issues, but stays in sync.

Compatibility : 

At this point, there is no GOUT compatibility and the audio is English only.

For : Color Corrected Internal Test Version 1

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Format : MP4 low bitrate

    Video : 1280x556 .h264 video

    Audio : AAC 128 48k Stereo English

Corrections : Extensive color correction. Substution of better Reel 3,

and fixes to sound.

- Cropped

- Not letterboxed.

- Original dirt and scratches

- Warped scenes

- Blurred scenes

- Unstabilized scenes

- Platter scratches

- Sprocket scratches

- NOT compatible with GOUT sound

- Includes a basic Stereo soundtrack

- Credits are partial.

Technical : This is a low bitrate downscale to 720p

Compatibility : 

At this point, there is no GOUT compatibility and the audio is English only.

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Team Negative1

Ok, well in that case. Maybe we'll wait it out. Good luck and keep us posted.

Team Negative1

Ok, we'll look into it, and get back to you.

Team Negative1

Again, maybe its time to distribute the files to someone that can convert and release the project, that's less busy.

I'm sure there are plenty of volunteers.

Team Negative1

The final stages of the ESB Deconstructed Workprint are being finalized along with the preview. More details will be released as we get nearer to the release.

The Workprint is surprisingly watchable.

Team Negative1

We've been working on Reel 1 and will be posting more previews on Reddit.

Team Negative1

No problem. Just didn't want you to forget about it. Maybe you can transfer the files to someone else for help.

Team Negative1

Do you need any assistance or another computer.

Team Negative1

Your list is very accurate. However, Reels 5-6, were not Fuji, but Eastman from the first print used in the DCP and Grindhouse versions.

Not sure which reels were Eastman/Fuji in the mixed print.

Reel 3 was fairly damaged from the first print, and replaced with another incomplete Eastman version.

Some of the first print has disintegrated due to aging, however Reels 1 and 3 have survived. 

Information, samples and discussion here : http://www.reddit.com/r/AMPSdeux/comments/2qmp61/esb_35mm_grindhouse_behind_the_scenes/

Team Negative1