snooker

snooker said:

Here’s how I’d cut Jyn and Krennics interaction (link expires in two days)

https://streamable.com/ci0e7g

ildiem said:

I agree thematically with most of these cut ideas, but I worry about how much we’d realistically have left since Rogue One’s editing is quite breakneck as-is. It’s a shame there’s no full deleted scenes available honestly.

I understand your concern entirely… I hope most of these can work out but it could get rough

IkeIsNotAScrub said:

+1 on cutting Krennic and Jyn’s dialogue beyond “Who are you?”

“Who are you?”
close up of Jyn’s face when Krennic is saying “I lose nothing but time.”
close up of krennic as he is shot

maybe Galen shouldn’t be able to share any words with his daughter either. She just runs up to him and he’s already gone. “Nothing you can do about that.”

I support removing any tension at all between Jyn and Cassian. Of course them looking at eachother in the elevator but him getting close and saying “welcome home” might be too far, too. Maybe trim some of Cassian holding Jyn back from krennic, too.

Plus the music during the last minutes of episode three should probably also be swapped out. There’s probably something from season 2 that would fit really well.

Also during Cassians big speech in episode 2 I think you should edit out Jyn’s sarcastic “I appreciate the support.” to let Diego have his big moment. The shots around a later reaction shot of Jyn are taken from the same take and edit seamlessly together if you still need to cut away for continuity.

In my rewatch of the official cut of Rogue One today I was struck by just how bad the dialogue in the Vader Krennic scene is. It doesn’t advance either character and is blatantly just there for fanservice.

And I like the hallway/ tantive scene being post credits. The realistic, gritty world of Andor has given way to the fairy tale of the rest of Star Wars. They fought for it. Letting us sit on that last image of Cassian for a few minutes of credits is a really great way to sell that transition in my opinion

Looks really fantastic!!!

Oh yeah that’s really good

Lucas obviously had contemporary politics in mind when making his movies why would he lie about that. The Force is riffing on new age hippie mysticism. He named like half the villains in the prequels and the clone wars after corrupt american politicians and arms manufacturing companies. Even if sometimes he exaggerates and says “Star Wars is about Vietnam” you’re very silly if you deny that his political views manifest in his work.

Also

NFBisms said:
also just kind of an insane story, they were gonna do that shit in the actual war

oh my God

Vladius said:

Everything in the movie is trying to be subversive and question the premise of Star Wars. So the Jedi aren’t good or necessary, Luke hates the Jedi and wants them to end.

The movie ends with Luke saying the Jedi will continue and the Jedi returning directly inspires the galaxy to rebel against the first order in specific and oppression in general. I think the movie is absolutely fine but I Cannot believe that we’re seven years out from the release of it and people can’t grasp the very Obvious and Inoffensive themes that characters constantly directly state and restate throughout the last 45 minutes. I mean the second to last scene of the movie is Rey asking how they’ll build a rebellion with so few people and Leia touches Anakin’s lightsaber and says that they have everything they need. The Symbol of hope (specifically in the Jedi) is strong enough to save the day.

The movie at most makes you Think about the implications of Star Wars’s most basic themes (war is bad!!) but at the end states that “getting hope and learning from the past is good and fine actually.” The closest it actually gets to criticizing star wars itself is the note about bloodlines not being the most important thing in the universe.

uhh anyways i dont remember any bad lines from the movie because i haven’t seen it in years. I’ll rewatch it soon and get back to everyone on that. Probably not.

This is incredibly exciting! My only note is that it seems like the clip you shared has too much echo? Or at least I don’t remember it being so echo-y.

Plus I think Torbin willingly choosing to kill himself and denying Mae that catharsis is really important to both their characters? It kind of echoes the final episode too. idk I always see people on here who dislike that scene or think it doesn’t work in the context of the flashbacks but when he did that was the first time the show put me on the edge of my seat

Fantastic work everybody! I’m so proud to have even been some small part in this! Thank you so so much Hal for leading this whole charge

Long J-cuts like that aren’t really present in ANH so that implementation sticks out stylistically.

If someday that technology lets you realistically alter mouth movements (a very scary thought) I see it being successfully reimplemented.

I don’t know if my dms are working but I just shot you one! Thank you so much for your work!

I like the Barriss episodes in concept, but they really deserved to be the entire focus. Give her 8 24 min episodes and expand on this same story and I think it could be pretty good.

It honestly feels like the only reason for its existence is so when she inevitably shows up in a later tv show they don’t need to explain it. What a shame.

I don’t know if Luke’s “final lesson” sounds perfect enough

NaturalSelector89 said:

NaturalSelector89, your username is in incredibly poor taste, considering that when you Google it, it was the username of a mass murderer. I must ask what motivated you to choose that username.

Wow! I really love that, RL

I always hated the 'where the last war ended" line because it’s just wrong lol. The Battle of Jakku was seen in-universe as the decisive battle of the civil war.

I’m working on my own subtitles for these and I’d be glad to share them when I finish!

It is so crazy how much better every scene feels in this cut.

The lack of the theatrical release’s very overbearing at times music lets each scene breath and brings out acting nuances I’ve never noticed before. Not to mention the very subtle moment to moment editing changes you’ve made. So many lines are removed, or muted, or moved around. This edit is such a triumph of recontextualization. Instead of feeling like Cassian is stuck in a Star Wars movie, it feels like he’s finally where he belongs.

This is how I’ll revisit/ show people Rogue One from now on.

Thank you so much for your work!

Fullmetaled said:

Can this make color falloff with the lightsabers work on all scenes of the original 6 films? https://youtu.be/CYN2alBR3P8

Messed around with a real quick and dirty test of this the other day actually. It actually looks reasonably fine!
https://streamable.com/te4mt3

I feel like it’s an important thread that will be picked up a bunch later, though. The New Republic citizens, especially those living in the core worlds, didn’t even notice the regime change after Jakku. I feel like the government not taking action against the Imperial remnants is gonna be expanded in the upcoming ‘Mando-verse’ TV shows and it helps segue into the sequels, regardless of how you feel about those movies.

The stuff Carson and the Adelphi rangers are doing, standing up against government inaction, seems like a very ‘Lucas-y’ thread that I actually think is neat.

Yup! It’s commentary on United States politics. There’s clear parallels here to Operation Paperclip. Ever since the new canon started Leia formed her Resistance because the New Republic just wouldn’t properly condemn/go against the growing Imperial remnants. This is like when Lucas compared the Empire to the United States – even though they had gone against the biggest empire in the world and won, they are now too unfortunately similar to them. Of course the New Republic is better than the Empire but the upper class in Coruscant and the working class in the Outer Rim haven’t been made to notice. Nothing substantial has changed about their lives. The status quo is too strong. The New Republic hasn’t done enough to rid the galaxy of the Empire. Things aren’t improving enough.

It’s one of the great things from the books set in this era that I am so glad to see be properly adapted into the shows.

I really liked this episode lol. I can’t wait to see where all the plotlines go! I really loved the exploration of the incompetence of the New Republic because it helps establish the sequel era in this real world political scenario. Love Dr. Pershing’s whole story and especially the scene where the rich Coruscanti people talk about how they can hardly tell the difference between the Empire and the New Republic. Very great stuff!

This season definitely isn’t the casual planet of the week stuff it was in season 1 and that’s a little disappointing - but if they’ve decided to fully commit to this being ‘the big story’ of this era I’m all for it. I also can’t wait to see where Bo-Katan’s character goes! I think she’s the character I’m most interested in right now.

Wowww that sounds so great!

Like i know the in-universe reason is “half the senate hates Leia and could never trust her or her organization because she is the daughter of Vader” but is there any way to indicate that the senate is in a standstill of supporting/trusting the resistance or not?

I feel like ‘The weapon located in the Ilum system’ might be too much of a mouthful – could “the weapon in the Ilum system” work? Other than that fantastic work this is so crazy exciting!