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TDS91939 said:

See I don’t mind the show not featuring Sith or Jedi, I love that they didn’t do it this time. I know it’s not going to happen but, for season 2 I reaaaaaaaly want David Oyelowo to reprise his role as Agent Kallus

I can’t see that happening either. I don’t think we’ll see any Rebels Easter eggs. They’re going all out to have the series run seamlessly into Rogue One. I really hope we get Krennic and Dedra facing off against each other. Big question for me is how much of the Death Star plot do we get, CGI Tarkin?

TDS91939 said:

At risk of being hated on. Unfortunately I HATE Andor, to me it seemed like the most crap non Star Wars piece of media I’ve ever seen. And everyone seems to love it because of that reason!! I’ve seen the word “perfect” being thrown around a lot when people talk about Andor Which baffles me but, I’m really looking forward to seeing this edit!! Since reading the changes makes it seem like it’s more “Star Warsy” which I love; because I feel like that’s what Andor was missing.

It’s certainly different. It focuses more on characters and plot with less of the fantasy element, and is a slower-paced as a result.

There are no Jedi or Sith and just a couple of small dogfights in space, so it lacks the features that many associate with Star Wars. However, it does a fantastic job of showing the power of the Empire. You really feel the oppression in the series and that makes payoffs like the prison break and the Ferrix riot even sweeter.

What I’ve done in these edits is keep the core stories intact and simply trim the fat and speed up the pacing.

Sounds very interesting.

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Tojima890 said:

Heeey can you give me please the link for season 1 and 2?
Did you make it also for season 3?
I heard you made a great Job 😃

I’ve sent you links via DM 😊.

Bl49er said:

Hello there!
Could I get a link to this?
Thanks!

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Thanks Glogus. It’s sooo close to release. Just a few music transitions to sort out. I’ve got another project on the go at the moment that I’m prioritising, but this will be done by the summer. Then onto season 6.

0kingskins0 said:

Can I please get a link to this?

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GLogus said:

smudger9 said:

GLogus said:

Smudger, I watched this edit again and just can’t believe how much of an improvement it is over the original. I simply can’t give enough praise. However, have you ever thought about ending Episode 3 with Mando leaving the armor with Ahsoka to pass on to Grogu, and saving the Luke/Grogu stuff for the beginning of Episode 4?

Thanks so much!

I have considered restructuring episodes 2, 3 and 4 and it’s something I’ll go back to after Ahsoka is finished. I think everyone can agree that the Grogu-Luke reunion was done extremely poorly in the series and it’s trying to decide at what point this occurs in the edits. Much to ponder!

Hi, smudger. Do you think you still might revisit this at some point. I know you’re hard at work on other projects, but I just thought I’d ask.

I’m hoping to. Unfortunately I’ve had a partial hard drive failure which has corrupted my Mando edit libraries. I’m about to send them off to see if they can be retrieved.

westo4 said:

smudger9 said:

TOTE Devoted: Bariss and the other inquisitors are introduced to Vader.
Final Clone Wars scene of Vader and Imperial troops exploring the wrecked Venator.

Might be a stupid idea, but have you considered switching the final two scenes?
In my mind it would work as following: After Padmé’s funeral Anakin hears about what happened to Ahsoka, he goes to look for her. She’s dead, all ties to his old life are over. Cue Bariss and the other Inquisitors awaiting their new leader Vader, the true beginning of a new era.
I do understand how great of a closing shot the CW ending is though, so I understand keeping it as well. Either way I’m so stoked to see what you’ve come up with!

The issue really is that there is a bit of a time skip to that Final scene because there are full-on OT-era troopers. Also being without dialogue it works so well as a final scene.

Just found this original thread, so thought I’d transfer my Siege of Mandalore discussion to here.

I’ve made some great progress with this and it is basically completed, other than the opening pan shot. It will be finished this week and then I’ll do a couple of watch throughs next week from my Greek holiday sunbed and release it just before the Acolyte airs.
Here is the change list.

For now I’ve decided to retain the Bariss content, but in a trimmed version which cuts out the other Jedi recruits. It essentially acts as an epilogue along with Padme’s funeral and the Vader snow scene. The other thing I’ve added to the final scenes is Obi-Wans holo message from Rebels, which plays as Ahsoka looks over the clone helmets. The aim for the final few scenes is provide a definitive end to the prequel era.

Runtime 2h 35mins

Act 1 (54mins)

Star Wars Logos (2 mins)
Opening Crawl
Pan down to shot of a shuttle exiting hyperspace above coruscant (shot from Rise of Clovis)

TOTJ Practice Makes Perfect (4 mins)
Cut to external shot of Jedi Temple from Tales of the Jedi Practice Makes Perfect.
Jedi Temple scene from Arctic Makes Perfect.
Wipe to Ahsoka arriving at the military hanger. Training plays out up to Ahsoka being stunned.

Gone With A Trace (9 mins)
Cut to Ahsoka on her speeder on Corusctant
Remove Ahsoka talking about fixing her own bike - Trace fixes it in this edit.
Remove Trace “don’t take too long”
Remove scene of Ahoska fixing her bike.
Trim fight between Trace and Bintu’s thugs.
Remove Droids storyline. We now cut from Rafa greeting the Alien in the laundromat to Ahsoka and Trace working on Trace’s ship.

Deal no Deal (19mins)
Cut chat about the Silver Angel name.
Remove Anakin and his cruiser - he’s su[posed to be in the user rim. Ahsoca, Trace and Rafa now lift off from the hangar and leave coruscant without incident.
Cut the meeting with King Yaruba - they arrive at Kessel and head straight to the spice mine.
Cut Ahsoka “That was more of an ethical debate”.
Cut trace and Krim talking abut trust.
Cut Rafa “I think we transmitted that to you already…. Let’s get out of here”.
As the crew get captured in their crusier I reversed the wide shot of their ship so that the shot pans out and inserted the clip of Bo Katan and her night owls discussing the identity of the Jedi they can see.

Between the crew dumping the spice and arriving on Oba-Diah I have inserted the Anakin Padme scene from A Distant Echo. I used the establishing shot of Annxes from “The Bad Batch” and rebuilt the audio with re-score using “Anakin and Padme”.
I used an AI Anakin voice to change his concern about Rex from the Echo issue to reference Fives.

Dangerous Debt (4mins)
Only the scene of Ahsoka, Rafa and Trace in the cell has been used.
The rest of the episode has been cut.

Together Again (16mins)
Initial scene of Ahsoka, Trace and Rafa in the cell has been cut - this has essentially been replaced by the scene from Dangerous debt.
Second scene of Rafa and Trace acquiring a nice shipment has been removed.

Act 2 (47mins)

Old Friends Not Forgotten (25mins)
Cut Anakin and Kenobi talking about Ahsoka and Maul as Bo’s ship arrives.
Trim Ahsoka and Anakin walking down the corridor.
As Ahsoka meets the 501st I have used the next sequence from Practice Makes Perfect to create a flashback of her training.
Trim Ahsoka twirling her new lightsabers.
Cut Ahsoka wishing Anakin good luck.
Cut most of Ahsoka’s free-fall to the surface of Mandalore.

The Phantom Apprentice (22mins)
Cut Maul “your way of thinking is behind the times.
Cut Rex and 501st running through the tunnels.
Cut Ahsoka “Tell Anakin……” And Obi Wan “I will”.
Cut Maul talking to Jesse about the grand plan.
Cut Maul “information is a valuable commodity”
Trim Maul/Ahsoka battle including Ahsoka losing and regaining a lightsaber and Ahsoka telling Maul Anakin would have beaten him easily.

Act 3 (41mins)

Shattered (22 mins plus 2mins additional)
Cut Yoda asking Ahsoka if she has a message for Skywalker.
Trim Bo and Ahsoka farewell.
Cut first clip of Maul and Ahsoka sensing something in the force.
As Ahsoka stands on the bridge I have added the next flashback sequence from Practice Makes Perfect.
As Rex and the 501st head doff to hunt down Ahsoka I’ve inserted the first scene from TOTE Devoted of Bariss in her cell as order 66 is carried out.
Cut Ahsoka having difficulty finding Rex’s chip.

Victory and Death (19mins plus 1min additional)
Add final flashback scene from Practice Makes Perfect using the scene of Rex and Ahsoka walking into the Hangar.
Minor trimming to the hangar battle to remove static shots.
Trim sequence with Ahsoka falling through the air.
Inserted Barriss recruitment scene from TOTE Devoted before we see Rex and Ahsoka looking at the crashed Ventor and clone helmets.
Obi-Wan hologram warning from Rebels added to scene of Ahsoka looking at the clone helmets.

Epilogue (10mins)

TOTE Doveted: Barriss arrives at the fortress inquisitorius and we immediately cut to her being tested by the Grand Inquisitor. The other Jedi there for testing have been cut.
TOTJ Resolve: Padme funeral scene plays out in full.
TOTE Devoted: Bariss and the other inquisitors are introduced to Vader.
Final Clone Wars scene of Vader and Imperial troops exploring the wrecked Venator.

The chips have become such an important part of animated canon. We have the arc in Clone Wars season 6 and it continues into Bad Batch.

Shane said:

smudger9 said:
I agree. It was set up for an amazing finale, but they just didn’t deliver.
We should have had a major clone rebellion, Rex and his crew should have been involved and at least one of the batch should have died. And Ventress should have tied into Omega’s future.

And I can’t believe alpha didn’t make an appearance!

While I don’t think there is anything your edit can do about this, I definitely got the feeling that the writers didn’t know this was going to be the final season until they were already well into producing the season.

I get the vibe that they had to pivot and the finale we got wasn’t the finale that was planned, but who knows.

I’m pretty sure they always knew this would be the final season. But I agree it was very odd to leave so many threads hanging which could have easily been tied together.

Martinkaworu said:

Your Bad Batch fanedits are the best TV-to-movie Star Wars fanedits I’ve seen, and I’ve only ever seen the TV shows as movies, so that’s saying something. Your Episode II particularly was a stroke of genius in that I couldn’t imagine what you could have possibly cut as it all worked so well as a movie - and a good one at that.

I’m very excited for a season 3 movie.

Thanks so much Martin. I’ll be back onto episode 3 at the end of the month. I’m just finishing off a Clone Wars project that I’ve been itching to complete for a while.

WtarSars said:

Some of the outside scenes in the clone hideout episode match the hanger lighting when the Zillo breaks out. Trying to see if theres a way that Clone force 99 calls in reinforcements and they show up to help. It just kills me that when echo joined them for the mission they didn’t think to bring Rex or the other clones. It’s not like his whole reason for fighting is to save clone lives. If theres any way at all to insert some of those scenes into the finale it would be worth it.

It’s just not an option for me. It would take some serious special effects to pull that off. I’m just an amateur editor, I have to work with what Lucasfilm gives me 😞.

I agree with you both that it could be jarring to suddenly have Barriss appear and take on a major story role right at the end. I have thought about combining it with Ahsoka’s final episode in Tales of the Jedi. It would make a great episode in a TV show format but not as a feature. I think I’ve managed to produce something that works as an epilogue to the movie.

I have put the first Barriss scene during the order 66 sequence, so she doesn’t appear from nowhere and I will mention her in the opening crawl. In terms of the rest of the Barriss content.
The Siege of Mandalore arc already has an epilogue of sorts with Vader finding Ahsoka’s lightsaber. What I’ve done is use that scene, a condensed version of Barriss’ recruitment to the Inquisitorius and the Padme funeral scene to create the epilogue. It plays out in chronological order with small time skips and shows us what directions these characters are going in as we head into the Dark Times and also hammers home that dark times are ahead.

Here is the sequence. Let me know what you think.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OaSO65TfzCiXSPZDmHsTI78g8X90877o

Hi all,

This has been an awful long time coming, but I’ve decided to dip back into the Clone Wars.

I’ve always wanted to do something with the last 3 seasons because they had some fantastic stories and the animation really improved, particularly with the final season.

I still have my live action and Bad Batch projects to continue, so the Clone Wars project will have to fit in around them and I’m not going to do things chronologically. I’m going to start with the final season, largely because the thing that actually triggered me to dive back in was the Tales of… series, which have arcs that fit in and around the final season. So here we are:

Episode IX [The Siege of Mangalore]
Includes:
Clone Wars: S7E2 and S7E5 to S7E12
Tales of the Jedi: E5 & E6
Tales of the Empire: E4

I have completed my second cut and the audio editing is about 80% complete so I should have this released by the end of the month.

Brief Outline: (Runtime 2h34)

Act 1 (53 mins)
The movie opens on Coruscant with the first 2 scenes of Tales of the Jedi: Practice Makes Perfect as a flashback prologue. This shows Ahsoka’s test at the Jedi Temple and the first part of her training with Anakin and the 501st. This serves 2 purposes, firstly as a way of having Anakin and the 501st present in the first act and secondly to open on a scene that is relevant to the finale.

We then cut to Ahsoka on her speeder and she meets the Martez sisters.
The Martez arc is included and essentially becomes the first act. It’s not my favourite arc by any means, but its essential as it shows us how Ahsoka is surviving following her expulsion from the Jedi order and it provides the inciting incident for the movie - Ahsoka discovering the location of Maul and Bo Katan asking for her help.
The plot for the arc has been heavily condensed so that it totals just 45mins.
This act also includes the Anakin/Padme holo chat from the Bad Batch arc. This acts as a spacer scene to replace cut elements from the Martez arc, it maintains Anakin and Rex’s presence in act 1 and its just a great scene with relevance to ROTS.

Act 2 (52 mins)
The Siege of Mandalore and Maul’s capture play out as the second act with minor trimming and the addition of the next training segment of Practice Makes Perfect as a brief flashback for Ahsoka as she is reunited with the 501st.

Act 3 (49 mins)
Order 66 and Ashoka’s escape with Rex play out with minor trimming as the base of act 3.
There are 2 further flashback scenes using footage from Practice Makes Perfect. One just before order 66 and one as Ahsoka and Rex are walking to the hangar bay.
During the order 66 sequence I have inserted the first scene from Tales of the Empire: Devoted where Bariss is looking at the Jedi Temple from her cell.
After Rex and Ahsoka escape in the Y-wing the rest of Bariss’ recruitment to the Inqusitorius from Resolve is intercut with the final 2 scenes of the Mandalore arc and the Naboo scenes from Tales of the Jedi: Devoted.

If anyone is keen to see what I’ve done so far here is a completed 20minute segment. This is the Order 66 segment which includes one of the flashbacks and the first Bariss scene. I’d be grateful for any feedback.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fj9nDM14p-L4YtVsL0aH8I8_Fnlnzsck

JasPet said:

Both were 10/10! Cut right to the good stuff, and the edits are invisible. It has pretty much all the info you need to know for season 3 and yet is still paced very well. I had a great time. Thank you, and happy Star Wars Day!

Thanks Jas. glad you enjoyed them.

Annoyingly there isn’t any way to change the basics of the plot, Omega is crucial in too many scenes away from Tantis. And to be honest my goal with these edits is to avoid sweeping story changes.

I’ve gone through the first 2 acts and managed to bring them in at 2 hours exactly. With some further scene trimming I should be able to shave a few more minutes off. I’ve cut out most of the Juggernaut episode by moving the focus to Rampart at the labour camp and simply have the Batch appear on the Juggernaut to rescue him. Very much like the Rebels breaking Jynn out of the Wobani camp in Rogue One. Intercut with Omega on Tantiss is works really well.

Now I need to condense Flash Strike, The Finale and half of Into the Breach down to an hour or less!

yoshif8tures said:

Well the show showed promise but they teased too much and ultimately played it far too safe and predictable for my tastes.

I agree. It was set up for an amazing finale, but they just didn’t deliver.
We should have had a major clone rebellion, Rex and his crew should have been involved and at least one of the batch should have died. And Ventress should have tied into Omega’s future.

And I can’t believe alpha didn’t make an appearance!

EddieDean said:

arabian said:

I also found the finale really strong, and a great ending to the show. I still maintain that beginning an edit before a show/season is done is not always the way to go because a general framing starts building up of how it will play out. If the season/show goes in a different direction, there is inevitable disappointment. I don’t think that’s fair to the show. (Shrugs) that’s just my opinion, though. I know it’s become more the norm to do it this way. Anyway, I do think you’re a brilliant editor.

I always edit back to front for this reason. The finale is where you get your payoff of plot and character storylines, and so I work backwards, making sure that I’m including anything that sets up those later payoffs.

Absolutely.

arabian said:

smudger9 said:

Well, after an excellent opening this season really did limp along with the finale being a bit of a disappointment. I really don’t think there is enough plot to warrant 2 films.

Spoilers Ahead

Omega’s M-count sub plot and faux Jedi training with Ventress went absolutely nowhere and Rex and his clones didn’t appear either, so most of the mid season is meaningless. Fennec, Bane, Ventress and the Teth arc aren’t needed at all.

It may be a challenge to bring this in under 3 hours, but the structure will be:

Act 1:
Omega and Crosshair escape and are reunited with Wrecker and Hunter.

Act 2: Crosshair and the batch settle their differences. The Empire ambushed the Batch on Pabu and Omega sacrifices herself. The Batch free Rampart from the Imperial camp.

Act 3:
The Batch find a way to Tantiss and then the finale.

I had already structured act 1 and it clocks in at just over 50mins. Act 2 is the narrative challenge but I’m almost there with that. Act 3 will be the challenge from a time point of view. The middle act has a lot of ground to cover, so will have to be faster paced than I would like. Annoyingly the return to the Outpost could be cut from a plot perspective, but it is crucial to the Batch mending their relationship with crosshair

I’ll get cracking tonight.

I disagree that the Ventress/faux-Jedi training was meaningless. It accomplished two important things. One plot wise, and one character wise.

1. With this long gestating possibility that Omega might be super Force sensitive because of her high M count, we needed an answer. The Jedi training gave us the first huge piece of the puzzle that no, a clone may have the high m count, but it doesn’t make them Force sensitive. So, that answered a pretty significant question. (And used the incredibly awesome Ventress to do so, which brings us to… )

2. You mention the batch mending their relationship with Crosshair, the use of Ventress was part of THIS arc. Ventress did awful, terrible things, yet she came there, she stayed behind to help Omega. She could have easily killed those three without breaking a sweat but she didn’t. Because she had changed. Just like… Crosshair. IOW, people can change, people can reform. And the three working together to protect Omega from someone bad, and then realizing together that she was a changed person was a huge step in the mending of their overall relationship.

I also found the finale really strong, and a great ending to the show. I still maintain that beginning an edit before a show/season is done is not always the way to go because a general framing starts building up of how it will play out. If the season/show goes in a different direction, there is inevitable disappointment. I don’t think that’s fair to the show. (Shrugs) that’s just my opinion, though. I know it’s become more the norm to do it this way. Anyway, I do think you’re a brilliant editor.

My frustration with the M-count/Ventress episode is that it didn’t have any resolution. Many of us speculated that clone force 99 would all die and Omega would end up with Ventress. That would have been a nice resolution. As it stands it’s a dead end, and one that I’m not sure needs exploring in this edit.

My aim with these edits is to create movies that comprise the key plot elements, allowing people to do a re-watch without having to rewatch the whole season.

Clearly this is going to result in some elements of the plot being lost, and the difficulty is often deciding what elements to keep and what to cut.

Including the Ventress material will push this season to 2 movies. So is the material important enough to warrant a whole other movie? My opinion is that it doesn’t, given that as it stands, that plot line doesn’t go anywhere. And for now I’d rather Ventress stays dead.

TheDimitrios said:

smudger9 said:

TheDimitrios said:

smudger9 said:

TheDimitrios said:

There is an instance in the first Cad Bane scene where Omegas Bow just disappears from her back.
I think adding the few missing seconds there is worth it to not have the Continuity issue. 😃

What is it about that bow? 🤣

Just got round to looking at this. You’re correct. I’d cut Todo knocking the bow out of Omega’s hand. D’oh. Its back in and will be updated when I release episode 2.

Did you get around to this change and the blurry image sequence from ep2 yet? If yes, I would like a link to the new versions. 😃

Also: With one episode left and the Zillo beast playing a big role in the Finale presumably… What does the game plan fpr movie 3/4 look like currently?

Yes it’s fixed. The file is in the original folder link.

At this point my 1 or 2 movie plan depends on the length of the final episode. If it’s a standard length I think a 1-movie edit it doable.

Downlaoded again, the fix in episode 1 does not seem to be there.

Got further into episode 2 and at around 50:00 the music comes only from the left

Ahh sorry. I thought you were taking about the EP2 blurring that you mentioned. That is fixed and uploaded. I’ll replace EP1 with the fixed bow version.