smudger9

Would love a link to your 3 updated PT edits.

mej72 said:

Can someone provide me a link to the HD video please?

Done

c0rpze said:

Smudger9, thanks again for sharing your edit with the fans. I just finished watching your cut, and overall, I enjoyed it a lot. I felt like I was watching a classic Star Wars ride with a story that flowed very well. You did a great job adding in the opening crawl, creating seamless transitions between scenes/episodes, and narrowing the film down to a core storyline by making conscious decisions on what scenes to keep and what scenes to cut. In the first act, it took me a moment to understand where you were going with the earlier scenes because I was expecting to see specific moments/events that were actually cut. At first, it felt like there was something missing in Mando’s character build but your choice of progression quickly clicked with me once I made the connection between the opening crawl and Mando turning in his bounty. As someone else had already mentioned, the action does seem to feel a bit too constant at times. Though, here I try to imagine the life of a galactic Bounty Hunter that isn’t necessarily all beaches and cocktails. Mando ‘constantly’ has to stay on his feet with little to no rest. Especially now with Grogu in his possession. It’s a dangerous life for a hunter and I think it’s well portrayed in your edit.
There are some minor editor nitpicks I have:

• The 20th Century Fox logo or the reimagined Walt Disney style Fox logo versus Disney’s Star Wars “faces”. The Mandalorian manages to make Star Wars “cool“ again and to be reminded of Kylo Ren isn’t something I look forward to. I may not be speaking for all but the Mandalorian replaces the Sequel Trilogy in my mind.
• The ‘Star Wars The Mandalorian logo’ looks really, really cool but I was expecting the traditional Star Wars logo with a Mandalorian subtitle before the crawl (e.g. “The Mandalorian/Episode I/A Vergence in the Force”). I feel like this would’ve kept the fan edit consistent with any other Star Wars fan edit that has worked to remove these reimagined Disney logos and openings without the crawl. The classic Star Wars logo would hit it a little more home. It’s a Star Wars film but the subtitle would reveal what type of Star Wars film it is.
• I don’t think the final scene should be a hidden scene à la Marvel. I think it should take place after Mando takes down Moff Gideon’s Tie and before preparing his ship to leave Nevarro.

As mentioned, you’ve done an outstanding job with this cut. Your edit will work as a continuation of selected fan edits to compile the best Star Wars saga possible. I am now highly anticipating episode 2. However you decide to patch the story, please do not cut Ahsoka (or Boba Fett). The Jedi episode was one of the best. Here we are shown to believe that Mando has finally found a Jedi that can help him but that of course turns out to not be the case. In other words, we are set to believe that Mando is close to completing his quest but there is more to it than what Mando is able to believe. He doesn’t understand the nature between the Light and the Dark side. Ahsoka attempts to explain this. Mando has to understand that he can’t just drop off Grogu with any force wielder. Ahsoka helps Mando (and the viewer) learn more about Grogu. Additionally, we don’t get to see many Jedis in action (unless we go back to the Prequels era). I don’t think Ahsoka would ruin or diminish the reveal in the final episode of season 2 (I initially thought it was Ahsoka boarding Moff’s cruiser until I saw the black glove and the green lightsaber light up). Ahsoka did not detract from the final reveal in my experience. I think it added to it, heightening the excitement because again, we don’t get to see a lot of Jedis in action these days.

That is all for the feedback I have. Thanks again for allowing me to view your edit.

smudger9 said:

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Thanks for the review.

For the logo, I wanted to move away from Fox because their association with Star Wars is now a distant memory, but keep the fanfare. The Star Wars faces worked better than the Disney Castle! You could always pretend that Kylo Ren is a Legends Sith from KOTOR.

I will be touching up Episode 1 once I have finalised my Episode 2 ideas. That version will have a STAR WARS crawl logo release, as will Episode 2.

The end Gideon scene has been much debated. I tried many ways of including it, but none of them worked for me, and ultimately I wanted a stand-alone film much in the vein of the original Star Wars. That scene just screamed to me… look what’s coming in season 2!

WtarSars said:

I might be wrong here but in the finale, Cara Dune says her "gun is jammed. Is it just me or have they never referred to blasters as guns. later in the episode Moff Gideon even says “drop the blaster”. I personally found it distracting. Maybe you could trim some of these hallway blaster scenes?

In the original Star Wars… Trash compactor scene… “Blast it will ya, my gun’s jammed”

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OutboundFlight said:

I think Ahsoka should be cut.

Here me out. Ahsoka’s episode is one of the best of this season. Incredibly well-paced plus the emotional callbacks to the Clone Wars and Prequels were excellent. But in the grand scheme, it is not essential. In fact, I would say it damages the ending of the Rescue because of how supposedly awe-inspiring the arrival of Luke is… when Mando has already seen a Jedi in action.

Imagine if the story went like this…
– Bo-Katan tells Mando to go to Tython and find a Jedi there
– Mando goes to Tython and Grogu is taken
– Mando leads a rescue, first with the Imperial Base and then the Ship
– After a movie of searching, a Jedi is finally found

It simplifies the plot. I’d argue Ahsoka is great nuance in a TV show, but for a movie, the pacing becomes incredibly rushed and the plot wonky.

Now, admittedly I haven’t worked out all the kinks. You would have to make Ahsoka’s voice sound like Bo-Katan, or potentially compile some clips from TCW and Rebels since it’s the same actress and make her say to travel to Tython. Second, Mando’s spear would be something we can assume he collected between episodes, although I really don’t consider this that big a plot hole. The only admittedly important piece of information we gain is the Child’s name being Grogu, but unless I’m mistaken, I don’t think this ever comes up again? Mando keeps calling him “the kid” and Gideon “the child”.

This would save 40 some minutes from the movie and gives you time to fully develop the Heiress, Tragedy, Believer, and Rescue episodes, which frankly I think are the real “core” of this season emotionally.

My thoughts on the Ahsoka episode currently are to cut the village scenes. Have Mando land, find Ahsoka and then leave.

There is little of value in the end confrontation and cutting the lightsaber action will add more weight to Luke’s entrance.

Thanks for the feedback. Episode 2 is going to be much more challenging! Hope I’m up to it.

All input is welcome in this thread 😃.

Great last episode. However, that cold open has created a problematic story gap. That’s going to take some creative editing to overcome.

I’m erring on the side of a single movie for season 2. I’m excited to finally start cutting things together knowing how the season finishes!

SandMTV said:

I really love Boba killing Fortuna at the end of Season 2.

Great scene, but that has no part in my plan here. I doubt it’ll even make the cut in my Boba series movie!

I think the way to go here is to wait for the finale and then work backwards. There may still be a way of making this a single movie.

I edited together season one into a single movie and it worked really well. As others have said, season 2 is very different and I’m having trouble putting together a plan for it. The Razorcrest is also a massive problem because it will limit the ability to move episodes around. Digitally altering it is way beyond most amateur editors.

JakeRyan17 said:

I’d keep 15 over The Siege. It has better character development for Din as he gives up wearing the helmet to save the child (which is huge for him). The Siege is pure filler, with only learning about the experiments… but we already knew about that from Season/Film 1.

There will certainly be a lot to think about think about after next weeks episode. The biggest problem with this season is the Razorcrest. It’s going to be a massive continuity bind.

So disappointingly chapter 15 was pure filler. Some great individual moments like seeing inside Slave 1, seeing Din remove his helmet and the seismic charges. However, it’s 100% side quest.

However, it can be easily cut. I’ve moved the Gideon/Child scene forward slightly so that it occurs whilst Din and Boba are heading for Nevarro. Then I have the Din/Cara conversation which cuts to the Din holo transmission to Gideon - the implication being that Cara manages to get Gideon’s co-ordinates off screen.

Here’s hoping for a long final episode otherwise I’m going to be stuck in the horrible position of season 2 being too long for 1 film, but too short for 2 😦.

JakeRyan17 said:

I just know it’ll be a big enough deal when it comes up. It’s Bo-Katan’s entire motivation, because of the political power, specific to Mandalorians and the planet Mandalore, it will bestow. I feel like cutting it out is undercutting that plot line, which will only become more important as this goes on.

Time will tell. At the moment I don’t think it’s significant enough to add that scene into episode 1 and derail the ending.

My main thoughts about episode 1 currently are whether I need to replace the Sorgen episode with the Tatooine one! 😦

szopman said:

After rewatching the first smudger9s TCW movie, I definitely think you should cut the first 38minutes (I think it kills the pacing and its not that relevant to the story itself).

The rest should stay because of the way smudger9 edited this story, connecting Christophis, saving master Koth and battle of Kamino, its just genius.

Thanks Szopman. The Cat and Mouse portion can certainly be cut.

As for keeping the rest of it, it depends on the goal of the project. The first movie is the one where I took the most liberties with the timeline and as a result it doesn’t fit well with a continuity project.

One thing I had completed (but not released) before I lost my work was an edit of the Clone Wars movie. It is definitely possible to create a “de-snipped” 😉 version (I even rescored the “heavy rock” segments). There are some great moments in it like the whole Teth sequence and Dooku v Anakin.
The Kamino episodes can then be cut together for a single feature and placed in the timeline closer to where ARC troopers should be.

JakeRyan17 said:

smudger9 said:

JakeRyan17 said:

I’d also, still, recommend adding the Darksaber back in. You can cut it in prior to Din leaving the planet, make it more immediately after Gideon crashes. It’s going to be such a big plot element, as it’s such an Excalibur or Akenstone type political allegiance tool for Mandalore, and that’s what Bo-Katan is searching for in s2. It’s too big of a Mandalorian culture moment, and works as a better reveal that he’s still alive rather than the Darktrooper scene.

I actually think the Dark Trooper reveal scene works better because we discover that Gideon is alive at the same time that Mando does. The one issue that The Tragedy has thrown up is the actual Darksaber reveal. It needs to be a big moment and showing it to Grogu doesn’t cut it… so I cut it 😃

https://vimeo.com/487542687

It needs a reveal prior to Bo-Katan though, that’s why I feel it needs to be restored here. If you wait until after, it will need more gravitas than it’ll get, similar to how revealing it to Grogu wasn’t a big reveal. The only way we get a bigger reveal is if Bo-Katan shows back up and she sees it and explains what it is. While that may happen, that’s becoming the end of your third film with it being a minor mcguffin in your second film, when it could just be a tease/reveal he’s alive in the first, which would set up those other stories.

I don’t think it needs a pre Bo Katan reveal. Yes she mentions it, but that can either act as a precursor to a full reveal, or it can be cut.

JakeRyan17 said:

I’d also, still, recommend adding the Darksaber back in. You can cut it in prior to Din leaving the planet, make it more immediately after Gideon crashes. It’s going to be such a big plot element, as it’s such an Excalibur or Akenstone type political allegiance tool for Mandalore, and that’s what Bo-Katan is searching for in s2. It’s too big of a Mandalorian culture moment, and works as a better reveal that he’s still alive rather than the Darktrooper scene.

I actually think the Dark Trooper reveal scene works better because we discover that Gideon is alive at the same time that Mando does. The one issue that The Tragedy has thrown up is the actual Darksaber reveal. It needs to be a big moment and showing it to Grogu doesn’t cut it… so I cut it 😃

https://vimeo.com/487542687

Maybe the last 2 episodes will both be an hour long! I can dream 😃. There is the option of putting chapter 12 at the start of episode 3 since they are now on Nevarro, but I’ll have to see how the next 2 episodes pan out!

szopman said:

JakeRyan17 said:

I would bring back season 1’s Tatooine episode (The Gunslinger) and merge it with Chapter 9. Introduces Boba and Fennec together. You could then take the beginning of Chapter 10, and do a comedic cut from it being dangerous to the broken down ship in The Heiress, using that episode as your third act. After, you can use the tag from The Seige as if one of the repair guys in that episode informed Gideon.

Film 2 could be The Jedi, The Tragedy, and the final two episodes.

And I still think the Gideon tag from the end of season one should be put at the end of the season 1 film.

I don’t think we need to see Bill Burr’s introduction, just like Lando’s origin wasn’t needed on screen.

Thats probably the best approach for now.

At the moment I don’t need to put in The Gunslinger. I’ve edited out any reference to Mando knowing Fennic and it works. She’s just Boba’s sidekick or hire. Have to see if that still holds true by the end of the season. I’d like to avoid using the Gunslinger if I can because it really drags out the Tatooine stuff and I really don’t like Toro.

Annoyingly, from a film perspective, the best “end” to episode 2 would be the kidnap of the child. It would give it an ESB vibe. However, I’m then not left with enough material for Episode 3.

hinventon said:

Episode 6 was awesome!! (spoilers)

If you’re aiming for 1 movie, I think you need the Boba hook at the start, so I’m thinking maybe you show Cobb and cut after Boba pulls his gun to him with the armor? Or you could use the jawa footage and maybe try to frame it as Boba buying it from the jawas. Then you could have the Boba shot while removing the bulk of that episode, and go right to the Bo Katan episode, straight from frog lady intro to the ocean planet and cut the part about the hyperspace eggs. It looks like Fennec is also gonna be a part of the crew though, so it might be easier to just frame her as a new character and cut the dialogue where her and Mando know each other. You might be able to do the same for Bill Burr’s character later but I suspect him and Mando will have some dialogue referencing S1 Ep 6.

You can shove the tracker/darktrooper scene in anywhere and remove a lot of that episode, but I think Ahsoka’s episode is a problem because you gotta see Mando get the spear and reveal the Grogu info (and Ahsoka is just awesome so I would love to see a lot of her)

Having 2 movies would definitely space things out more but I wouldn’t know what to end it on, maybe the Ahsoka episode?

Yes. I think that episode has just blown the single film plan out of the water. Difficulty now is deciding how to structure 2 films whilst giving a satisfying ending to the first one.

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

Well, in my opinion, if you dont wanna cut all the great stuff, you should divide it into two movies (suposing it Will go like that) :

1st one: Mando’s Journey to find the Jedi. Trimmed 1st ep, some bits of the 2nd ep, Episodes 3,4,5 with some Trimmed moments of course. At the end, it turns out that the protagonist has to follow another path. Maybe as a cliffhanger, or a postcredid scene, you could move the last scene of the 2x4 😉

2nd one: suposing we d get the 2part finale at least, the shorter 1h30movie.

Thats the only Way i can think of when it comes to a movie format of s02. This season is So much better than the 1st one. The first one, i think I ll always prefer to watch your fanedit as a pilot movie, but the second one, damn, i May even rewatch it all again 😯 anyway, waiting to See how you gonna deal with it 💪🏽

Annoyingly I get the feeling there will be about a film and a half worth of material in season 2.

Well, you can always try with 3 shorter movies, doesn’t have to be 2h30 each I guess 😉

I ve been watching your edits since 2015 and I must say you evolved as an editor a lot in terms of cutting the stuff thats not crucial in story-wise terms 😉 I think, just an observation of a viewer of your edids 😅

I really don’t want to mess with Episode 1. It works so well as a 3-act movie, probably the best of all my film edits.

No, I meant 3 shorter movies made out of the 2nd season. Not touching your ep I at all 😉

I think I t’ll be a choice between two 1.5 hour movies and one 2.5+ hour movie.

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

Well, in my opinion, if you dont wanna cut all the great stuff, you should divide it into two movies (suposing it Will go like that) :

1st one: Mando’s Journey to find the Jedi. Trimmed 1st ep, some bits of the 2nd ep, Episodes 3,4,5 with some Trimmed moments of course. At the end, it turns out that the protagonist has to follow another path. Maybe as a cliffhanger, or a postcredid scene, you could move the last scene of the 2x4 😉

2nd one: suposing we d get the 2part finale at least, the shorter 1h30movie.

Thats the only Way i can think of when it comes to a movie format of s02. This season is So much better than the 1st one. The first one, i think I ll always prefer to watch your fanedit as a pilot movie, but the second one, damn, i May even rewatch it all again 😯 anyway, waiting to See how you gonna deal with it 💪🏽

Annoyingly I get the feeling there will be about a film and a half worth of material in season 2.

Well, you can always try with 3 shorter movies, doesn’t have to be 2h30 each I guess 😉

I ve been watching your edits since 2015 and I must say you evolved as an editor a lot in terms of cutting the stuff thats not crucial in story-wise terms 😉 I think, just an observation of a viewer of your edids 😅

I really don’t want to mess with Episode 1. It works so well as a 3-act movie, probably the best of all my film edits.

Darth Lucifer said:

Thank you so much for making this, Smudger. I was able to find and download your fanedit…I am totally BTFO, you are a truly talented editor who needs to be on Disney’s payroll.

My only complaint is that I didn’t like the 20th century fox logo replaced with the Star Wars heads…also when that fades out, you can catch a couple of frames of “STAR WARS” written horizontally before it switches to the Lucasfilm logo.

For my own personal copy of this movie, I redid the logo by putting the 20th century fox back in like a classic Star Wars movie. I found this version of it on Youtube ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE5VdQ0zAQs ), but then I used another Lucasfilm Ltd. logo without the “A Disney Company” underneath because it’s redundant to see it a second time. The music sounded a little off to me, so I used the audio from the 2005 ROTS version of the fanfare. I sliced off the THX part and substituted it with the fanedit.org disclaimer at the beginning.

I have a lower quality version of the file hosted online so anyone who wants to see it can check it out:

https://mega.nz/file/3i4i0aTC#kOsh3gCggV2ObrqgpFYjcI0MfIgJRllSURSsAWxklZ4

Thanks Darth. I’m like you and love the Fox logo. I used it in all my Clone Wars edits. I just felt this was the time to move away from it, especially as we now have a new Star Wars logo sequence.

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

So, any chance of seeing the alternative version without the crawl or with a classic SW logo (and no EP number) maybe? 😇😇😇

Absolutely.
However, I’m gonna wait until I’ve finalised my season 2 plan because there are probably some changes to be made to episode 1.

Sounds interesting.
What are you gonna change? 😉

Nothing major. I’ll probably put back in the child eating the frog-creature on Nevarro and being referred to as a carnivore because his appetite seems like a running gag.
I may have to remove the space battle and use it in episode 2.
I’m still considering trying to edit the Grief Karga transmission so that it takes place on Sorgen, rather than in space - depends on whether my roto skills are up to it!

szopman said:

Well, in my opinion, if you dont wanna cut all the great stuff, you should divide it into two movies (suposing it Will go like that) :

1st one: Mando’s Journey to find the Jedi. Trimmed 1st ep, some bits of the 2nd ep, Episodes 3,4,5 with some Trimmed moments of course. At the end, it turns out that the protagonist has to follow another path. Maybe as a cliffhanger, or a postcredid scene, you could move the last scene of the 2x4 😉

2nd one: suposing we d get the 2part finale at least, the shorter 1h30movie.

Thats the only Way i can think of when it comes to a movie format of s02. This season is So much better than the 1st one. The first one, i think I ll always prefer to watch your fanedit as a pilot movie, but the second one, damn, i May even rewatch it all again 😯 anyway, waiting to See how you gonna deal with it 💪🏽

Annoyingly I get the feeling there will be about a film and a half worth of material in season 2.

szopman said:

So, any chance of seeing the alternative version without the crawl or with a classic SW logo (and no EP number) maybe? 😇😇😇

Absolutely.
However, I’m gonna wait until I’ve finalised my season 2 plan because there are probably some changes to be made to episode 1.