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yotsuya said:

NeverarGreat said:

This is one of those shots where the true color of the shot simply doesn’t exist in the Blu-ray. Note the magenta of the cup on the left, which is supposed to be white, still retains a magenta hue in the correction. Similarly, Luke’s dusty offwhite shirt has too much green in the highlights and too much magenta in the shadows, and the correction still doesn’t completely remove these inaccuracies.

This picture skews red but still shows how Luke’s shirt is definitely not white like Leia’s gown:

That is a good photo. If you correct for the red, it would have nice skin tones and maybe more blue to the walls in the background.

I think I’ve found what you are looking for:

CatBus said:

The yell was in the 70mm, 16mm, and 8mm mixes, but wasn’t on the 35mm mix or any home video mix until the SE.

I just checked the 70mm in-theater recording and the Yoda yell is not there.

Harmy interview on BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03wb5g6

Have the lasers which were accidentally removed in the cleanup been restored?

Heads up, 16mm print of Blade Runner for sale on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blade-Runner-Full-Feature-Film-3-Reels-16mm-Color-Harrison-Ford-Ridley-Scott/121935705326?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D35626%26meid%3D9ef4312b511142e2ac4f0523ed001eed%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D281892263373
Perhaps this could be a useful colour reference?

towne32 said:

Did they not do LPP in Russia?

No, from my research it seems that low-fade stock was not available until after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and that existing Russian film manufacturers at the time used obsolete equipment when making colour film.

I think that the issue was that Western products could not be imported easily or at all during the Soviet era. Once Eastman was available, local companies like Svema (a.k.a. Cbema) lost traction and went out of business.

DrDre said:
One thing I did notice, is that it has the A New Hope subtitle in the crawl, so it’s definitely not a Technicolor print.

This does not prove that it is not a Technicolor print. During the 1981 re-release, the original crawl and flyover on all Tech prints were removed and replaced with the “A New Hope” crawl and 1981 flyover on regular Eastman stock. You can see this in the Senator screening video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEctWVF4J_w and Mike Verta has mentioned this a few times as well.

Speaking as someone who has attempted this kind of project before I would like to say I’ve been impressed by the results and would really like to see this project succeed where I have failed. Best of luck to you DrDre.

towne32 said:

Shouldn’t the soundtrack be grey on a technicolor? Not an expert, just repeating what I’ve heard.

Are there any other samples?

It’s not a SE print that’s for sure. Some of the samples contain OUT shots and SE prints have a Dolby Digital soundtrack encoded between the sprocket holes.
This isn’t all of them, just the ones I managed to get before the ebay guy sold them: http://imgur.com/a/2FSs1

Here is the seller: http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/movie.maniac?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

I have about 30 sample images from previous sales.

There is a guy on ebay who is (edit: was) selling what appears to be a chopped up Technicolor print.

This is what the Motti scene looks like according to this sample image that he posted:

Those scans are definitely not from original exhibition prints; in the late 90s Lucasfilm distributed some limited edition film cells through the Star Wars Fan Club IIRC.

Here is a video about them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdfPhRXn_pU

On the back there’s some info “…hand cut from a master print taken from the original internegative…”. While I doubt the original 65mm internegatives for SW and TESB would have retained this much colour, the scans don’t appear modified. It seems that Lucasfilm does (or did who knows) have the originals on low-fade film stock. Oddly the cells for SW seem to resemble the Technicolor prints as they have similar colour shifts which leads me to suspect that a Tech print was involved at some point in the process.

DrDre said:

I think this still from what appears to be a Technicolor print probably captures what the Tarkin shots should look like imo (aside from too mucg green), and which ended up being the main reference source for my latest regrade:

That still is not from a Technicolor print, it is from a 70mm cell scan that was posted on this site: http://www.jedi1.net/.

Here’s the full image uncropped:

Another interesting list here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/KeepCirculatingTheTapes/Film

I know of one: Jud (1971) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067281/. It’s an obscure Vietnam War drama film that apparently had a video release by Prism Entertainment Corporation but I haven’t seen any evidence of its existence and I can’t find any evidence of a DVD release. However I am in possesion of a VCD bootleg version of this from China.

I was watching the silver screen edition and paused on this frame: http://i.imgur.com/nd4LBgO.png
Is this an encoding glitch? I don’t know what the frame number is but it happens right after wedge pulls out during the final trench run.