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#1655977
Topic
Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [CLOSED]
Time

NC-17peter said:

TristAndShout64 said:

NC-17peter said:

Juicy Pep said:

There’s two school of thoughts here.

  1. Scans should be public and be shared with the whole world
  2. Scans should be private and should be shared with only a small group of donors

Not everyone on this website is in group 2, a lot of people on this website are actually in group 1. So it’s very hard to keep a project funded here private.

The good news is that, NC-17 will give us Toy Story 35mm scan for free 😃

Hey man,

I’m actively hunting it down. Part 2 seems to be a lot more common, but if you’re patient, I’m confident I can track down Part 1. I’m about 90% sure I have a partial print in Russian and another in Italian. One way or another, I’ll make it happen.

That said, I need to be honest about something. I think a big issue surrounding this scan is how Tristan has been treating the people who supported it—especially the Patrons who helped fund it. It’s pretty disheartening to see people being told some supporters are getting copies while others are getting refunds. Then there’s the excuse about being “worried it might leak” and somehow getting hit with copyright claims… I mean, come on—this site made its name off Star Wars scans. It doesn’t get more high-risk than that.

Look, I understand that scanning is expensive and time-consuming. But let’s be real: you didn’t make the film. You didn’t animate it. Your name isn’t creatively tied to Pixar. Having a limited exclusive window for funders? Totally fair. But acting like a scan gives you permanent ownership over a cultural artifact just because you bought the print and paid for a scan—that’s not preservation, that’s gatekeeping.

The more attention film print scans get, the better. Labels are obsessed with negatives. Studios don’t give a damn about film print scans right now. Ironically, what we’re doing might be giving them the best preservation copy they’ll ever see. And you’d be surprised how many filmmakers, producers, and even studios quietly acknowledge that.

To a lot of people, getting a 35mm scan of a beloved film is a huge deal. They wait patiently—sometimes for years—for a chance to see it. So when you tell them that only a select few get access while everyone else gets a refund or silence, it leaves a bad taste. Especially when the people being denied were the same ones defending you when delays piled up.

And about the leaks—you keep pointing fingers, but let’s be honest: the only leaks in the last year have been from my scans. And I’m fine with that. After a 3-month exclusivity period, I open it up for everyone. That’s how I operate. Ironically, I’m often accused of leaking things, but the truth is, it’s usually someone else acting in bad faith. Meanwhile, I keep scanning and pushing forward.

Some people in this community think I’ve ruined it. Maybe that’s what the loudest voices say. But I’ve tried to be transparent every step of the way. I didn’t just buy a basic Cintel or Kinetta—I built my own scanner, from the ground up. It works completely differently from anything out there. And I did that for one reason: to preserve film.

Honestly, it feels like we need a full reset in this scene. If you’re into film preservation just so you can hoard art that isn’t yours, what’s the point? If you’re passionate about cinema, then that passion should be contagious—not buried under layers of secrecy and power trips.

You might not like me. That’s fine. But I hope you respect the work ethic and what I’m trying to do. We don’t have to be best friends—but we should be working together. Because at the end of the day, this is about one thing: the love of cinema. And if we lose sight of that, what are we even doing?

Pete, you need a SERIOUS ego check here. I have already fully explained my reasons for doing what I’ve done– stop butting in and trying to take the moral high ground.

You do whatever the heck you want with your prints/scans, but I don’t need (nor do I want) your input on what you think is right or wrong in this situation. Please and thank you.

I mean, seriously — just look at the way you’re talking to people. Do you really think this is about money?

Most of the folks who donated — whether it was $1 or $20 — aren’t sweating the amount. For many collectors, these scans represent something personal, something they love. It’s about preservation, passion, and access — not pocket change.

And you outright admit the scan is done… but only some people get it? After a two-year wait? How do you not see the problem with that?

You talk about ego — man, I’d never speak to the people supporting my work the way you do. Especially those trying to help. Calling that ego? No — it’s called accountability. People backed you because they trusted your word. That should mean something.

The bigger issue here is this twisted idea that having access to 35mm scans gives you some kind of power. I don’t see cinema that way. The joy of film is sharing it — letting people experience the magic together. But this? This has become all about you. And your excuses? Weak.

And when I offer to help? Suddenly I’m the asshole? Just because I stepped in when things were falling apart?

That’s not ego — that’s love for cinema. That’s wanting to preserve something that’s disappearing. Do you even care about 35mm preservation? Do you see what’s at stake here?

Prints are vanishing. Scans aren’t trophies to hoard — they’re part of film history. If they’re kept locked away, they’re worthless. What we’re doing is bigger than one person, bigger than clout or credit.

Facts! Thank you! This was the first project I’ve contributed to, and not once did Tristan ever thank me for contributing to his project.

I’m curious to know what other films you have scanned and how I can support you. 😃

Post
#1655960
Topic
Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [CLOSED]
Time

Venny said:

simps said:

TristAndShout64 said:

simps said:

TristAndShout64 said:

I’m sorry everybody- but I’m refunding everybody who I haven’t sent the scan to yet.

This project has gotten uncomfortably big for me and I am obsessively paranoid about copyright issues, so I don’t want the final scan to become as widespread as I predict it to become.

I have found a large chunk of people in this community to be incredibly rude, disrespectful, and entirely ignorant of how dangerous it is to share these sorts of things on a widespread scale, and I don’t wish to associate with it any longer except for in as private of a context as possible.

The leaks that happened not too long ago have eliminated just about any trust I have for the majority of this community, and therefore I am no longer comfortable sending this film to so many people. This is a big reason as to why I have been stalling ever since the print got scanned- though the busy nature of my personal life certainly hasn’t helped.

Also, I hate to say it- but with where I am in life currently, I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with this caliber of shit. It has become more stressful than fun at this point. I raised far more money than I ended up needing, so I feel that this is ultimately the right thing to do.

I have already refunded everybody on PayPal (except for a VERY small, as in single-digit, number of people who I trust), something to the tune of $500 total. The full scan will not be sent to anybody who hasn’t received it already, and I don’t recommend DMing me asking if you can donate or get the scan or have your donation back or anything along those lines, because I’m not going to respond. Clips of the scan may be uploaded to YouTube at some point, but only to an extent that doesn’t potentially incur any wrath from a certain large, soulless corporation that happens to own the film and all IPs within it.

My apologies to anybody who is disappointed by this. I started out extremely excited about the prospect of doing this project and sharing it with everybody who helped out- and in the end, I am extremely satisfied with how the scan looks, and I hope to share it in some capacity in the near or distant future. A lot of you were really cool when I messaged you and have been super patient, so I’m sorry that this is the way it has to be. Still, I need to put my real life before my life on the Internet, and this has simply become too much for me, so I’ve finally decided that this is what I must do.

If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!

Perhaps a full 35mm scan of this movie (be it mine or somebody else’s) will publicly surface one day- but even if it doesn’t, Toy Story is still one of the greatest animated films of all time. That’s what brought us together in the first place- great movies! 😃

To everybody who offered their support towards this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity- thank you for your passionate interest that you shared with so many other denizens here on the 'net. To my closest homies in this community- GOD BLESS YOU. #norbitrobbinscut 😎

~TristAndShout

Suffice to say, I am livid. This was the first project I donated to, and will likely be the last. To have us wait for so long and just be given that. You should’ve known better. If you donate and contribute to a scan project, donors should be given the scan, end of. Toy Story is one of my childhood movies, and to see a 35mm copy being hoarded, pisses me off. I don’t know what pisses me off more, the hoarding or the lies. While I did get a refund, it doesn’t make up for the fact that I was cheated and I’m sure everyone else feels cheated too. I may never send money to a scanning project ever again because you scammed me and all of your donors. The phrase “one bad apple, spoils the bunch” most definitely applies here. How can I trust anyone not knowing whether or not they’re just going to hoard it in the end ? While your project may have started with good intentions; the reason why I donated was to help you and so I would get a copy of the movie in 35mm in return. The fact you pull this shit is ridiculous and now comes off as you taking advantage of people that wanted to see a scan of this movie in 35mm. Especially given the alterations the movie has received over the years and hasn’t been theatrically accurate since the Laserdisc era.

The fact you say this :
“If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!”

You are pulling a George Lucas by saying “watch the movie as it is right now with all the alterations and that’s the definitive way to watch the movie and the original will be not available unless you buy an OOP DVD of a LD non-anamorphic transfer that has a ton of DNR.”

The right thing to do is give a link to the people who donated so they can download it.

~Guy who donated $1

And? Whether it’s $1 or $100, they’re still helping you fund the project regardless. My donation amount doesn’t suddenly diminish my point that you wasted our time and how you screwed over your donors by not giving us the scan we helped you fund. Also, your attitude towards your lower contributing donors isn’t helping matters either.

How many times does he have to say he’s refunding and having people in the thread say they are getting refunds does it take for you to be happy? If you want your 1 buck back I’m sure Trist will happily refund it to you as he has many of the other people here

All I want is a copy of the scan I helped fund and that a copy of the scan is given to the other donors. Only then, I will be happy.

Post
#1655851
Topic
Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [CLOSED]
Time

TristAndShout64 said:

simps said:

TristAndShout64 said:

I’m sorry everybody- but I’m refunding everybody who I haven’t sent the scan to yet.

This project has gotten uncomfortably big for me and I am obsessively paranoid about copyright issues, so I don’t want the final scan to become as widespread as I predict it to become.

I have found a large chunk of people in this community to be incredibly rude, disrespectful, and entirely ignorant of how dangerous it is to share these sorts of things on a widespread scale, and I don’t wish to associate with it any longer except for in as private of a context as possible.

The leaks that happened not too long ago have eliminated just about any trust I have for the majority of this community, and therefore I am no longer comfortable sending this film to so many people. This is a big reason as to why I have been stalling ever since the print got scanned- though the busy nature of my personal life certainly hasn’t helped.

Also, I hate to say it- but with where I am in life currently, I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with this caliber of shit. It has become more stressful than fun at this point. I raised far more money than I ended up needing, so I feel that this is ultimately the right thing to do.

I have already refunded everybody on PayPal (except for a VERY small, as in single-digit, number of people who I trust), something to the tune of $500 total. The full scan will not be sent to anybody who hasn’t received it already, and I don’t recommend DMing me asking if you can donate or get the scan or have your donation back or anything along those lines, because I’m not going to respond. Clips of the scan may be uploaded to YouTube at some point, but only to an extent that doesn’t potentially incur any wrath from a certain large, soulless corporation that happens to own the film and all IPs within it.

My apologies to anybody who is disappointed by this. I started out extremely excited about the prospect of doing this project and sharing it with everybody who helped out- and in the end, I am extremely satisfied with how the scan looks, and I hope to share it in some capacity in the near or distant future. A lot of you were really cool when I messaged you and have been super patient, so I’m sorry that this is the way it has to be. Still, I need to put my real life before my life on the Internet, and this has simply become too much for me, so I’ve finally decided that this is what I must do.

If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!

Perhaps a full 35mm scan of this movie (be it mine or somebody else’s) will publicly surface one day- but even if it doesn’t, Toy Story is still one of the greatest animated films of all time. That’s what brought us together in the first place- great movies! 😃

To everybody who offered their support towards this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity- thank you for your passionate interest that you shared with so many other denizens here on the 'net. To my closest homies in this community- GOD BLESS YOU. #norbitrobbinscut 😎

~TristAndShout

Suffice to say, I am livid. This was the first project I donated to, and will likely be the last. To have us wait for so long and just be given that. You should’ve known better. If you donate and contribute to a scan project, donors should be given the scan, end of. Toy Story is one of my childhood movies, and to see a 35mm copy being hoarded, pisses me off. I don’t know what pisses me off more, the hoarding or the lies. While I did get a refund, it doesn’t make up for the fact that I was cheated and I’m sure everyone else feels cheated too. I may never send money to a scanning project ever again because you scammed me and all of your donors. The phrase “one bad apple, spoils the bunch” most definitely applies here. How can I trust anyone not knowing whether or not they’re just going to hoard it in the end ? While your project may have started with good intentions; the reason why I donated was to help you and so I would get a copy of the movie in 35mm in return. The fact you pull this shit is ridiculous and now comes off as you taking advantage of people that wanted to see a scan of this movie in 35mm. Especially given the alterations the movie has received over the years and hasn’t been theatrically accurate since the Laserdisc era.

The fact you say this :
“If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!”

You are pulling a George Lucas by saying “watch the movie as it is right now with all the alterations and that’s the definitive way to watch the movie and the original will be not available unless you buy an OOP DVD of a LD non-anamorphic transfer that has a ton of DNR.”

The right thing to do is give a link to the people who donated so they can download it.

~Guy who donated $1

And? Whether it’s $1 or $100, they’re still helping you fund the project regardless. My donation amount doesn’t suddenly diminish my point that you wasted our time and how you screwed over your donors by not giving us the scan we helped you fund. Also, your attitude towards your lower contributing donors isn’t helping matters either.

Post
#1655164
Topic
Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [CLOSED]
Time

HAttackontheBun said:

simps said:

HAttackontheBun said:

Ok, I get where Trist is coming from considering that some people leaked this scan and went against his wishes, but he shouldn’t have shut down the project. Trist should’ve limited access to the scan to those who donated. Yes, he gave refunds to people who are still waiting for the final product, but that’s no excuse to hoard the files, cause what he did was untrustworthy.

Do you know who/where was it leaked to ? I just want a copy of the scan I helped fund. That’s it. I agree he should have made it limited access to the donors and none of these issues would be happening. People are just going to leak eventually, that’s reality. If he didn’t want leakers, he should have kept the scan to himself and not mention having it online. Plain and simple.

He did say that the leaks happened, but I don’t know where it’s leaked to?

Too bad… I just want what I paid for and helped fund. 😭

Post
#1655152
Topic
Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [CLOSED]
Time

HAttackontheBun said:

Ok, I get where Trist is coming from considering that some people leaked this scan and went against his wishes, but he shouldn’t have shut down the project. Trist should’ve limited access to the scan to those who donated. Yes, he gave refunds to people who are still waiting for the final product, but that’s no excuse to hoard the files, cause what he did was untrustworthy.

Do you know who/where was it leaked to ? I just want a copy of the scan I helped fund. That’s it. I agree he should have made it limited access to the donors and none of these issues would be happening especially with donors who rightfully paid for the funding of the scan. People are just going to leak eventually, that’s reality. If he didn’t want leakers, he should have kept the scan to himself and not mention having it online. Plain and simple.

Post
#1655147
Topic
Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [CLOSED]
Time

DylanDrew said:

simps said:

TristAndShout64 said:

I’m sorry everybody- but I’m refunding everybody who I haven’t sent the scan to yet.

This project has gotten uncomfortably big for me and I am obsessively paranoid about copyright issues, so I don’t want the final scan to become as widespread as I predict it to become.

I have found a large chunk of people in this community to be incredibly rude, disrespectful, and entirely ignorant of how dangerous it is to share these sorts of things on a widespread scale, and I don’t wish to associate with it any longer except for in as private of a context as possible.

The leaks that happened not too long ago have eliminated just about any trust I have for the majority of this community, and therefore I am no longer comfortable sending this film to so many people. This is a big reason as to why I have been stalling ever since the print got scanned- though the busy nature of my personal life certainly hasn’t helped.

Also, I hate to say it- but with where I am in life currently, I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with this caliber of shit. It has become more stressful than fun at this point. I raised far more money than I ended up needing, so I feel that this is ultimately the right thing to do.

I have already refunded everybody on PayPal (except for a VERY small, as in single-digit, number of people who I trust), something to the tune of $500 total. The full scan will not be sent to anybody who hasn’t received it already, and I don’t recommend DMing me asking if you can donate or get the scan or have your donation back or anything along those lines, because I’m not going to respond. Clips of the scan may be uploaded to YouTube at some point, but only to an extent that doesn’t potentially incur any wrath from a certain large, soulless corporation that happens to own the film and all IPs within it.

My apologies to anybody who is disappointed by this. I started out extremely excited about the prospect of doing this project and sharing it with everybody who helped out- and in the end, I am extremely satisfied with how the scan looks, and I hope to share it in some capacity in the near or distant future. A lot of you were really cool when I messaged you and have been super patient, so I’m sorry that this is the way it has to be. Still, I need to put my real life before my life on the Internet, and this has simply become too much for me, so I’ve finally decided that this is what I must do.

If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!

Perhaps a full 35mm scan of this movie (be it mine or somebody else’s) will publicly surface one day- but even if it doesn’t, Toy Story is still one of the greatest animated films of all time. That’s what brought us together in the first place- great movies! 😃

To everybody who offered their support towards this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity- thank you for your passionate interest that you shared with so many other denizens here on the 'net. To my closest homies in this community- GOD BLESS YOU. #norbitrobbinscut 😎

~TristAndShout

Suffice to say, I am livid. This was the first project I donated to, and will likely be the last. To have us wait for so long and just be given that. You should’ve known better. If you donate and contribute to a scan project, donors should be given the scan, end of. Toy Story is one of my childhood movies, and to see a 35mm copy being hoarded, pisses me off. I don’t know what pisses me off more, the hoarding or the lies. While I did get a refund, it doesn’t make up for the fact that I was cheated and I’m sure everyone else feels cheated too. I may never send money to a scanning project ever again because you scammed me and all of your donors. The phrase “one bad apple, spoils the bunch” most definitely applies here. How can I trust anyone not knowing whether or not they’re just going to hoard it in the end ? While your project may have started with good intentions; the reason why I donated was to help you and so I would get a copy of the movie in 35mm in return. The fact you pull this shit is ridiculous and now comes off as you taking advantage of people that wanted to see a scan of this movie in 35mm. Especially given the alterations the movie has received over the years and hasn’t been theatrically accurate since the Laserdisc era.

The fact you say this :
“If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!”

You are pulling a George Lucas by saying “watch the movie as it is right now with all the alterations and that’s the definitive way to watch the movie and the original will be not available unless you buy an OOP DVD of a LD non-anamorphic transfer that has a ton of DNR.”

The right thing to do is give a link to the people who donated so they can download it.

The worlds smallest violin is playing just 4 u

Heh heh no it isn’t. As someone who donated to the project, I’m beyond pissed, and I have every right to be. Everyone who donated was scammed.

Post
#1655127
Topic
Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [CLOSED]
Time

TristAndShout64 said:

I’m sorry everybody- but I’m refunding everybody who I haven’t sent the scan to yet.

This project has gotten uncomfortably big for me and I am obsessively paranoid about copyright issues, so I don’t want the final scan to become as widespread as I predict it to become.

I have found a large chunk of people in this community to be incredibly rude, disrespectful, and entirely ignorant of how dangerous it is to share these sorts of things on a widespread scale, and I don’t wish to associate with it any longer except for in as private of a context as possible.

The leaks that happened not too long ago have eliminated just about any trust I have for the majority of this community, and therefore I am no longer comfortable sending this film to so many people. This is a big reason as to why I have been stalling ever since the print got scanned- though the busy nature of my personal life certainly hasn’t helped.

Also, I hate to say it- but with where I am in life currently, I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with this caliber of shit. It has become more stressful than fun at this point. I raised far more money than I ended up needing, so I feel that this is ultimately the right thing to do.

I have already refunded everybody on PayPal (except for a VERY small, as in single-digit, number of people who I trust), something to the tune of $500 total. The full scan will not be sent to anybody who hasn’t received it already, and I don’t recommend DMing me asking if you can donate or get the scan or have your donation back or anything along those lines, because I’m not going to respond. Clips of the scan may be uploaded to YouTube at some point, but only to an extent that doesn’t potentially incur any wrath from a certain large, soulless corporation that happens to own the film and all IPs within it.

My apologies to anybody who is disappointed by this. I started out extremely excited about the prospect of doing this project and sharing it with everybody who helped out- and in the end, I am extremely satisfied with how the scan looks, and I hope to share it in some capacity in the near or distant future. A lot of you were really cool when I messaged you and have been super patient, so I’m sorry that this is the way it has to be. Still, I need to put my real life before my life on the Internet, and this has simply become too much for me, so I’ve finally decided that this is what I must do.

If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!

Perhaps a full 35mm scan of this movie (be it mine or somebody else’s) will publicly surface one day- but even if it doesn’t, Toy Story is still one of the greatest animated films of all time. That’s what brought us together in the first place- great movies! 😃

To everybody who offered their support towards this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity- thank you for your passionate interest that you shared with so many other denizens here on the 'net. To my closest homies in this community- GOD BLESS YOU. #norbitrobbinscut 😎

~TristAndShout

Suffice to say, I am livid. This was the first project I donated to, and will likely be the last. To have us wait for so long and just be given that. You should’ve known better. If you donate and contribute to a scan project, donors should be given the scan, end of. Toy Story is one of my childhood movies, and to see a 35mm copy being hoarded, pisses me off. I don’t know what pisses me off more, the hoarding or the lies. While I did get a refund, it doesn’t make up for the fact that I was cheated and I’m sure everyone else feels cheated too. I may never send money to a scanning project ever again because you scammed me and all of your donors. The phrase “one bad apple, spoils the bunch” most definitely applies here. How can I trust anyone not knowing whether or not they’re just going to hoard it in the end ? While your project may have started with good intentions; the reason why I donated was to help you and so I would get a copy of the movie in 35mm in return. The fact you pull this shit is ridiculous and now comes off as you taking advantage of people that wanted to see a scan of this movie in 35mm. Especially given the alterations the movie has received over the years and hasn’t been theatrically accurate since the Laserdisc era.

The fact you say this :
“If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!”

You are pulling a George Lucas by saying “watch the movie as it is right now with all the alterations and that’s the definitive way to watch the movie and the original will be not available unless you buy an OOP DVD of a LD non-anamorphic transfer that has a ton of DNR.”

The right thing to do is give a link to the people who donated so they can download it.

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#1633236
Topic
Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
Time

For Cinderella and Snow White, my highest recommendations are easily the Thunderbean scans. Both are much more vibrant and colorful than the 4K travesties, bar none.
Here are some screenshots from both.

The new Cinderella master is missing the original mono mix and has heavily modified color timing while Snow White is a disaster all-around. Both of them, and especially Snow White in particular, feels like they took the Diamond Edition, upscaled it, changed the color timing in a video editor, applied a grain filter, and called it a day. They look like shit. The Laserdiscs look better as official releases go and at least those box sets have the original mono mixes and has many bonus features you will never get on Blu-ray. 😉

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#1447108
Topic
International Audio (including Voice-Over Translations)
Time

Manos Jetbike Ride said:

Double checking the Cantonese dub, I can tell that they were made by TVB. However, Chinese Wikipedia lists those made in 2005 instead of mid 90s speculated by simps (unless one of them are wrong). It doesn’t list the voice actors but I went backwards because I recognized the voices from other dubs they did. I’ll list the main trio, their actors and other roles they did:

Luke - Pasu Leung, Heero Yuy, Meowth, Frodo Baggins in Jackson’s LOTR (Only in Fellowship, Towers and The Hobbit).
Han - Kenneth Chan, The narrator in Chibi Maruko-chan, Kogoro Mori, Tom “Neo” Anderson.
Leia - Jingle Tsang, Sailor Moon, Yugi Mutou.

Interesting to see how that these actors did all kinds of dubs, which makes sense for a TV station. If there’s any Chinese speakers I would like to have someone reverse engineer the rest of the cast.

Wikipedia also cites an unknown date showing of the Cantonese Chinese TVB dubbing for the OT :

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/無綫電視外購美國電影列表

So I don’t trust Wikipedia 100%.

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#1444838
Topic
International Audio (including Voice-Over Translations)
Time

Here are my notes regarding the international dubbings and voiceovers of the OT.
Please feel free to add. 😃

Basque
Notes :

  • Aired on TV in 1992

Brazilian Portuguese
Notes :

  • Three Dubs
  • First done by Herbert Richers in the 1980s. Shown on TV and included on the first VHS releases.
  • Second done by Delart in 1997 for the Special Edition re-release. Available on all home media releases since 1997.
  • Third was done by Delart again for TV in 2015 to prepare for The Force Awakens. The Portuguese audio on Disney+ is the 2015 dub.

Bulgarian
Notes :

  • Multiple voiceovers. The most recent being done by Alexandra Audio in 2018.

Cantonese Chinese
Notes :

  • TV dub done in the mid-1990s for TVB. Not available on home media.

Catalan
Notes :

  • Return of the Jedi was the first film to be dubbed in Catalan for cinema release in 1983 and was later shown on TV.
  • The Empire Strikes Back was dubbed in 1990 for TV.
  • A New Hope was dubbed in 1992 for TV.
  • None of these dubs are available on home media. These dubs were preserved by fans in the highest quality in 2020.

Czech
Notes :

  • Multiple dubs produced on varying dates.

A New Hope

  • First dub done in 1991 for cinema re-release and was included on the first VHS release under the title Hvězdné války.
  • Second dub was done in 1997 for the second VHS release and was also shown on the ČT television network under the title Hvězdné války: Epizoda IV - Nová naděje.
  • Third dub was done for the Blu-Ray release in 2011 and was also shown on Nova and Prima television networks.

The Empire Strikes Back

  • First dub was done in 1992 for the first VHS release under the title Impérium vrací úder.
  • Second dub was shown on the ČT television network in 1995 under the title Hvězdné války: Epizoda V - Impérium vrací úder and was also remixed in 1997 for the first Special Edition VHS release.
  • Third dub was done for the Blu-Ray release in 2011 and was also shown on Nova and Prima television networks.

Return of the Jedi

  • First dub was done in 1992 for the first VHS release under the title Návrat Jediho.
  • Second dub was shown on the ČT television network in 1995 under the title Hvězdné války: Epizoda VI - Návrat Jediho and was also remixed in 1997 for the first Special Edition VHS release.
  • Third dub was done for the Blu-Ray release in 2011 and was also shown on Nova and Prima television networks.

English
Notes :

  • Original version.
  • The Empire Strikes Back was redubbed in 2004 for the Special Edition DVD release in order to tie in with the prequels. Clive Revill’s voice and Marjorie Eaton’s performance as The Emperor were replaced by Ian McDiarmid who portrayed the character in Return of the Jedi and the prequels. Jason Wingreen’s voice as Boba Fett was replaced by Temuera Morrison who portrayed Jango Fett in Attack of the Clones.

French
Notes : -

Galician
Notes :

  • All three films were dubbed in 1992 for TV.

Georgian
Notes :

  • Voiceovers

German
Notes : -

Hindi
Notes :

  • Available on Disney+ Hotstar Southeast Asia.

Hungarian
Notes :

  • Multiple dubs produced on varying dates.

A New Hope

  • First dub produced for the Christmas season in 1984 for MTV (Magyar Televízió.)
  • Second dub produced in 1995 by InterCom to unify the dubbings of the other two films in the trilogy.
  • Third dub produced in 1997 for a special VHS edition.

The Empire Strikes Back

  • First dub produced in 1982 for cinema distribution and was made available on rental VHS by Mokép in the mid-1980s. Was also released by Guild Home Video in 1993 on VHS.
  • Second dub produced in 1995 by InterCom to unify the dubbings of the other two films in the trilogy.
  • Third dub produced in 1997 for a special VHS edition.

Return of the Jedi

  • First dub produced in 1993 for the first VHS release from Guild Home Video.
  • Second dub was made to unify the dubbings of the other two films in the trilogy.
  • Third dub produced in 1997 for a special VHS edition.

Indonesian
Notes :

  • Produced in the 2010s for TV showings on The Disney Channel. Also available on Disney+ Hotstar in Southeast Asia.

Italian
Notes :

  • The trilogy was partially redubbed in 1997 for the Special Edition re-release. These changes were directed by Tonino Accolla. These changes include :

A New Hope

  • In the added scene with Jabba the Hutt, Han Solo was dubbed by Angelo Maggi. Han’s line after he shoots Greedo at the Mos Eisley Cantina was redubbed by Angelo Maggi.
  • In the Biggs Darklighter scene, Luke was dubbed by Francesco Prando and Biggs was dubbed by Maurizio Reti.

The Empire Strikes Back

  • For the line, “Avvertite l’incrociatore stellare di prepararsi per il mio arrivo.” Darth Vader was redubbed by Rodolfo Bianchi.
  • In the 2004 Special Edition DVD release, Emperor Palpatine was dubbed by Carlo Reali.

Return of the Jedi

  • The scene in which Luke (in hologram) introduces himself to Jabba the Hutt was redubbed by Francesco Prando. Prando also redubbed some of Luke’s lines on Endor.
  • Some of Han Solo’s lines during the fight on Endor were redubbed by Angelo Maggi.

Japanese
Notes :

  • Multiple dubs produced on varying dates.

A New Hope

  • First dub was produced in 1978 for cinema distribution. Also supervised by George Lucas himself. Was made available on the Japanese 2006 DVD release.
  • Second dub was produced in 1983 and was shown on Nippon TV.
  • Third dub was produced in 1985 and was shown on Nippon TV.
  • Fourth dub was produced for the VHS, DVD, and Blu-Ray release.
  • Fifth dub was produced in 2002 and was shown on Nippon TV.
    All TV dubs except the 1985 Nippon dub are lost.

The Empire Strikes Back

  • First dub was produced in 1980 for cinema distribution. Was made available on the 2006 DVD release.
  • Second dub was produced in 1986 and was shown on Nippon TV.
  • Third dub was produced in 1992 and was shown on TV Asahi.
  • Fourth dub was produced for the VHS, DVD, and Blu-Ray release. The fourth dub was slightly redubbed in 2004 with Palpatine and Dak’s voices being replaced.
    The TV Asahi dubbing is currently lost.

Return of the Jedi

  • First dub was produced in 1988 and was shown on Nippon TV.
  • Second dub was produced in the 1990s for VHS, DVD, and Blu-Ray distribution.
  • Return of the Jedi is the only film in the OT not to receive a theatrical dubbing.
    Both dubs are found.

Korean
Notes :

  • Multiple dubs produced on varying dates.

A New Hope

  • First dub was produced in 1985 for KBS television.
  • Second dub was produced in 2003 for MBC television.
  • Third dub was produced in 2006 for KBS television.

The Empire Strikes Back

  • First dub was produced in 1988 for KBS television.
  • Second dub was produced in 2003 for MBC television.
  • Third dub was produced in 2006 for KBS television.

Return of the Jedi

  • First dub was produced in 1990 for KBS television.
  • Second dub was produced in 2003 for MBC television.
  • Third dub was produced in 2006 for KBS television.

Latin Spanish
Notes :

  • Two dubs for each film.
  • For the first dub, the dubs were produced varying on film release date. The first being from 1978 for A New Hope. The second being from 1980 for The Empire Strikes Back. The third being from 1983 for Return of the Jedi. These original dubs were produced in Los Angeles, California.
  • The second dub is from 1997 and was produced in Mexico.

Lithuanian
Notes :

  • Voiceover

Malay
Notes :

  • Produced in the 2010s for TV showings on The Disney Channel. Also available on Disney+ Hotstar in Southeast Asia.

Mandarin Chinese
Notes :

  • There are many dubs, at least three for each film. One produced in Beijing, another produced for CCTV6 in Shanghai, and another in Guangdong Mandarin.

Navajo
Notes :

  • Only A New Hope was dubbed into Navajo.

Persian
Notes :

  • These are illegal dubs. Some of the online uploads have this dub censored to accommodate Islamic customs.

Polish
Notes :

  • The official dubs were produced in 2011 for the first Blu-Ray release of the OT. Prior to that, voiceovers were produced.

Romanian
Notes :

  • Voiceover produced during Communism in the 1980s with one person reading the Romanian translation over the original English dialogue.
  • Only A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back were given a voiceover.
  • Available on unofficial VHS releases.

Russian
Notes :

  • There are multiple dubs produced on varying dates.

A New Hope has three dubs.

  • The first being in 1991 for cinema distribution in the Soviet Union.
  • The second in 2004 and was shown on ОРТ (ORT) television.
  • The third in 2011 for the Blu-Ray release.

The Empire Strikes Back has two dubs.

  • The first in 2004 and was shown on ОРТ (ORT) television.
  • The second in 2011 for the Blu-Ray release.

Return of the Jedi has two dubs.

  • The first in 2004 and was shown on ОРТ (ORT) television.
  • The second in 2011 for the Blu-Ray release.

Slovak
Notes :

  • Two dubs for each film.
  • The three films were first dubbed into Slovak in 1990s for Markíza television.
  • The three films were dubbed again for Disney+. The second Slovak dub was commissioned by Disney Character Voices International.

European Spanish (Castilian)
Notes : -

Tagalog
Notes :

  • The three films were dubbed in 2016 for TV5 television.

Tamil
Notes :

  • Only The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were dubbed in Tamil. A New Hope was not dubbed. Available on Disney+ Hotstar in Southeast Asia.

Telugu
Notes :

  • Only The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were dubbed in Telugu. A New Hope was not dubbed. Available on Disney+ Hotstar in Southeast Asia.

Thai
Notes :

  • There are two dubs of each film in the trilogy.
  • The first was done for VHS release by CVD Video.
  • The second done for the Special Edition in 1997 which was produced by CVD International.

Turkish
Notes :

  • Many different dubs produced.

A New Hope

  • Was first dubbed in 1980 for cinema distribution.
  • The second in 1986 for TRT.
  • The third in 1987 for VHS release.
  • The fourth in 1992 for Show TV.
  • The fifth in 1996 for Star TV.
  • The sixth in 1997 for the Special Edition re-release.
  • The seventh in 2002 for Digiturk.
  • The eighth in 2012 for TRT.
  • The ninth in 2015 for Digiturk.
  • The tenth in 2015 for iTunes.

The Empire Strikes Back

  • Was first dubbed in 1983 for cinema distribution.
  • The second in 1987 for VHS release.
  • The third in 1992 for Show TV.
  • The fourth in 1996 for Star TV.
  • The fifth in 1997 for the Special Edition re-release.
  • The sixth in 2002 for Digiturk.
  • The seventh in 2012 for TRT.
  • The eighth in 2015 for Digiturk.
  • The ninth in 2015 for iTunes.

Return of the Jedi

  • Was first dubbed in 1986 for cinema distribution.
  • The second in 1987 for VHS release.
  • The third in 1992 for Show TV.
  • The fourth in 1996 for Star TV.
  • The fifth in 1997 for the Special Edition re-release.
  • The sixth in 2002 for Digiturk.
  • The seventh in 2012 for TRT.
  • The eighth in 2015 for Digiturk.
  • The ninth in 2015 for iTunes.

Ukrainian
Notes :

  • Produced in 2019 by LeDoyen (the same company responsible for the Disney Ukrainian dubbings) and commissioned by Disney Character Voices International.

Uzbek
Notes :

  • Voiceovers produced for TV viewing.
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#1444241
Topic
Info: Disney foreign dubs - and preservation
Time

TyrasGGDaughter said:

I’m looking for all the swedish dubs of Dumbo. My great grandmother sang Baby Mine on one of the releases, but I’m not sure which one. I’m not sure what her SAG-AFTRA name was and she changed her name spelling when she migrated to the states as a teenager, so I hope some of you can help me!

I have the Swedish 1972 and 1996 versions of “Dumbo.” I can send them to you in a PM if you are interested. 😃 The 1946 version was not made in Sweden. It was made in the USA and it is currently lost.

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#1387025
Topic
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1977) Stereo Mix (LD rip available)
Time

WaltWiz1901 said:

simps said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

Unfortunately not a LaserDisc rip (which would’ve been way better), but someone on Internet Archive has finally uploaded a full hi-fi rip of the 1996 VHS! Considering he previously also uploaded a rip with a linear mono track and a split-up rip with the hi-fi stereo track, this was a godsend for someone who really wanted to find a better, full rip of this particular release.

https://ia803203.us.archive.org/14/items/the-many-adventures-of-winnie-the-pooh-1996-vhs/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1996 VHS).mp4

I’ve already sent you my copy of the LD. Did you check your messages ?

I did, but I couldn’t play it. Is there any way you could make a rip file that’s easier to watch prior to - or without - downloading it?

I can send an LDrip in mkv format through pm if desired.

Post
#1387008
Topic
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1977) Stereo Mix (LD rip available)
Time

WaltWiz1901 said:

Unfortunately not a LaserDisc rip (which would’ve been way better), but someone on Internet Archive has finally uploaded a full hi-fi rip of the 1996 VHS! Considering he previously also uploaded a rip with a linear mono track and a split-up rip with the hi-fi stereo track, this was a godsend for someone who really wanted to find a better, full rip of this particular release.

https://ia803203.us.archive.org/14/items/the-many-adventures-of-winnie-the-pooh-1996-vhs/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1996 VHS).mp4

I’ve already sent you my copy of the LD. Did you check your messages ?

Post
#1373926
Topic
Info: Preservation of Localized Texts in the Star Wars (1-6) Saga
Time

ArdaYlcn said:

simps said:

schorman13 said:

There are many localized crawls available on the Different Blu Ray versions of the first six films, from 2011.

The US releases have crawls in:

English
Latin American Spanish
Quebec French (Episodes 1-3)
Parisian French
Brazilian Portuguese
Finnish
Danish
Swedish
Norwegian

Western European Blu Ray Set I have has:

English
Castilian Spanish
German
Hungarian (Episodes 1-3)
Portuguese (Episodes 2-3)
Catalan (Episodes 2-3)
Polish (Episodes 1-3)
Greek (Episodes 1-3)

Japanese Blu Rays have:

English
Japanese
Chinese (I think Cantonese) (Episodes 1-3)
Thai (Episodes 1-3)

Eastern European Blu Rays have:

English
Italian
Russian (Episodes 1-3)
Turkish (Episodes 1-3)
Czech (Episodes 1-3)
Slovak (Episodes 2-3)

None of them make any alterations to the English end credits.
There are likely som additional versions that I have not mentioned. Also, I have not checked the 2020 discs thoroughly yet, nor the Disney films.

I have the Russian version of both PT & OT. None of the opening crawls are localized. Czech, Slovak, and Turkish dub credits are not present for the prequels but Italian & Russian dub credits are present. OT has the same issue. Italian & Russian dub credits are present but the Czech dub credits are presented in a voiceover.

I have been looking for the Western European version for awhile. Would you mind sending me the texts and dub credits (if any) through PM ? 😃

There’s a Soviet 35mm telecine version of Star Wars with Russian ending credits

Wow !! 😮 Do you have this version ? Or do you know where I can find this version ?

Post
#1373861
Topic
Info: Preservation of Localized Texts in the Star Wars (1-6) Saga
Time

schorman13 said:

There are many localized crawls available on the Different Blu Ray versions of the first six films, from 2011.

The US releases have crawls in:

English
Latin American Spanish
Quebec French (Episodes 1-3)
Parisian French
Brazilian Portuguese
Finnish
Danish
Swedish
Norwegian

Western European Blu Ray Set I have has:

English
Castilian Spanish
German
Hungarian (Episodes 1-3)
Portuguese (Episodes 2-3)
Catalan (Episodes 2-3)
Polish (Episodes 1-3)
Greek (Episodes 1-3)

Japanese Blu Rays have:

English
Japanese
Chinese (I think Cantonese) (Episodes 1-3)
Thai (Episodes 1-3)

Eastern European Blu Rays have:

English
Italian
Russian (Episodes 1-3)
Turkish (Episodes 1-3)
Czech (Episodes 1-3)
Slovak (Episodes 2-3)

None of them make any alterations to the English end credits.
There are likely som additional versions that I have not mentioned. Also, I have not checked the 2020 discs thoroughly yet, nor the Disney films.

I have the Russian version of both PT & OT. None of the opening crawls are localized. Czech, Slovak, and Turkish dub credits are not present for the prequels but Italian & Russian dub credits are present. OT has the same issue. Italian & Russian dub credits are present but the Czech dub credits are presented in a voiceover.

I have been looking for the Western European version for awhile. Would you mind sending me the texts and dub credits (if any) through PM ? 😃

Post
#1373718
Topic
Info: Preservation of Localized Texts in the Star Wars (1-6) Saga
Time

ArdaYlcn said:

simps said:

ArdaYlcn said:

simps said:

ArdaYlcn said:

simps said:

CatBus said:

Apparently there was a Turkish theatrical dub, never released on home video. More to come on this later, I hope! 😉

Wait, really ?? I’ve never heard of something being dubbed in Turkish more than once before. Impressive find !

It’s possible that an earlier VHS rental release exists with the cinema dub on it, but I don’t know for sure unfortunately.

Hello I’m from Turkey and I’m the owner of theatrical Turkish dub.
Theatrical dub of Star Wars never released in any home video formats they were all subtitled(Except ROTJ VHS I’m still trying to find it)
Thatrical dub only showed in TV for one time only
2 November 1986 Turkish National TV TRT Broadcast
This recording is nearly impossible to find 'cuz there’s only few surviving copys but non of 'em around internet
Luckily I know a VHS collector (he is a close friend of mine) have that copy and he gave it to me 😉

BTW There’s 6 Star Wars dubs in Turkey

Theatrical Dub
1993 Show TV Dub
1997 SE Dub
2004 Show TV Dub
2008 CNBC-E and Bootleg DVD Dub (This is the dub Catbus have)
2012 TRT Dub
2015 Itunes Dub

But the Theatrical Dub is the best dub I ever seen.
Han Obi Wan Tarkin fits to original perfectly 😉

There’s six Turkish dubs ?? I’ve never heard of two Turkish dubs being made for a movie let alone six. Would you mind sending me the Turkish cinema dub through PM ? Also, were the opening crawls translated into Turkish as well ? And do you know the voices in these dubs ? Also, were all three of the OT films dubbed into Turkish six times or is it just “Star Wars” that has six dubs ?

Nearly all movies before 2000s have multiple dubs
No crawl was english and turkish narrated
All 3 movies have 6 dubs

Here’s the full cast of dub

Opening Crawl Narrator: Ahmet Şahin Aksoy
C-3PO: Bülent Yıldıran
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Ergun Uçucu
Luke Skywalker: Şahap Sayılgan
Han Solo: Levent Özdilek
Princess Leia: Işıl Poyraz
Imperial Officer:Savaş Tamer
Darth Vader: Orhan Bozkoyunlu
Grand Moff Tarkin:Serhat Nalbantoğlu
Uncle Owen: Nusret Çetinel

Btw you said you’re from a site.Which site do you in?

Thanks for clarifying ! 😃 From what I know, the Disney films were only dubbed into Turkish once starting with “The Lion King” in 1994 and the ones afterwards were released in cinemas and released on home media; while the others (movies made before “The Lion King”) were dubbed for home media releases.

I assume that the 1997 version is the most common one right ?

I am from this site :
https://www.non-disneyinternationaldubbingcredits.com/

And :
https://williammeaghersdubbingcollection.weebly.com/

No sadly 1997 dubs are lost

I have only

Theatrical Dub of Star Wars
2008 CNBCE and Bootleg DVD Dub of all of 'em
2015 Itunes dub of all of 'em
20 minutes of 1993 Show TV ESB dub

I would love for you to send me what you have. Please send me a PM. 😃

Post
#1373678
Topic
Info: Preservation of Localized Texts in the Star Wars (1-6) Saga
Time

ArdaYlcn said:

simps said:

ArdaYlcn said:

simps said:

CatBus said:

Apparently there was a Turkish theatrical dub, never released on home video. More to come on this later, I hope! 😉

Wait, really ?? I’ve never heard of something being dubbed in Turkish more than once before. Impressive find !

It’s possible that an earlier VHS rental release exists with the cinema dub on it, but I don’t know for sure unfortunately.

Hello I’m from Turkey and I’m the owner of theatrical Turkish dub.
Theatrical dub of Star Wars never released in any home video formats they were all subtitled(Except ROTJ VHS I’m still trying to find it)
Thatrical dub only showed in TV for one time only
2 November 1986 Turkish National TV TRT Broadcast
This recording is nearly impossible to find 'cuz there’s only few surviving copys but non of 'em around internet
Luckily I know a VHS collector (he is a close friend of mine) have that copy and he gave it to me 😉

BTW There’s 6 Star Wars dubs in Turkey

Theatrical Dub
1993 Show TV Dub
1997 SE Dub
2004 Show TV Dub
2008 CNBC-E and Bootleg DVD Dub (This is the dub Catbus have)
2012 TRT Dub
2015 Itunes Dub

But the Theatrical Dub is the best dub I ever seen.
Han Obi Wan Tarkin fits to original perfectly 😉

There’s six Turkish dubs ?? I’ve never heard of two Turkish dubs being made for a movie let alone six. Would you mind sending me the Turkish cinema dub through PM ? Also, were the opening crawls translated into Turkish as well ? And do you know the voices in these dubs ? Also, were all three of the OT films dubbed into Turkish six times or is it just “Star Wars” that has six dubs ?

Nearly all movies before 2000s have multiple dubs
No crawl was english and turkish narrated
All 3 movies have 6 dubs

Here’s the full cast of dub

Opening Crawl Narrator: Ahmet Şahin Aksoy
C-3PO: Bülent Yıldıran
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Ergun Uçucu
Luke Skywalker: Şahap Sayılgan
Han Solo: Levent Özdilek
Princess Leia: Işıl Poyraz
Imperial Officer:Savaş Tamer
Darth Vader: Orhan Bozkoyunlu
Grand Moff Tarkin:Serhat Nalbantoğlu
Uncle Owen: Nusret Çetinel

Btw you said you’re from a site.Which site do you in?

Thanks for clarifying ! 😃 From what I know, the Disney films were only dubbed into Turkish once starting with “The Lion King” in 1994 and the ones afterwards were released in cinemas and released on home media; while the others (movies made before “The Lion King”) were dubbed for home media releases.

I assume that the 1997 version is the most common one right ?

I am from this site :
https://www.non-disneyinternationaldubbingcredits.com/

And :
https://williammeaghersdubbingcollection.weebly.com/

Post
#1373666
Topic
Info: Preservation of Localized Texts in the Star Wars (1-6) Saga
Time

ArdaYlcn said:

simps said:

CatBus said:

Apparently there was a Turkish theatrical dub, never released on home video. More to come on this later, I hope! 😉

Wait, really ?? I’ve never heard of something being dubbed in Turkish more than once before. Impressive find !

It’s possible that an earlier VHS rental release exists with the cinema dub on it, but I don’t know for sure unfortunately.

Hello I’m from Turkey and I’m the owner of theatrical Turkish dub.
Theatrical dub of Star Wars never released in any home video formats they were all subtitled(Except ROTJ VHS I’m still trying to find it)
Thatrical dub only showed in TV for one time only
2 November 1986 Turkish National TV TRT Broadcast
This recording is nearly impossible to find 'cuz there’s only few surviving copys but non of 'em around internet
Luckily I know a VHS collector (he is a close friend of mine) have that copy and he gave it to me 😉

BTW There’s 6 Star Wars dubs in Turkey

Theatrical Dub
1993 Show TV Dub
1997 SE Dub
2004 Show TV Dub
2008 CNBC-E and Bootleg DVD Dub (This is the dub Catbus have)
2012 TRT Dub
2015 Itunes Dub

But the Theatrical Dub is the best dub I ever seen.
Han Obi Wan Tarkin fits to original perfectly 😉

There’s six Turkish dubs ?? I’ve never heard of two Turkish dubs being made for a movie let alone six. Would you mind sending me the Turkish cinema dub through PM ? Also, were the opening crawls translated into Turkish as well ? And do you know the voices in these dubs ? Also, were all three of the OT films dubbed into Turkish six times or is it just “Star Wars” that has six dubs ?

Post
#1373557
Topic
Info: Preservation of Localized Texts in the Star Wars (1-6) Saga
Time

CatBus said:

Apparently there was a Turkish theatrical dub, never released on home video. More to come on this later, I hope! 😉

Wait, really ?? I’ve never heard of something being dubbed in Turkish more than once before. Impressive find !

It’s possible that an earlier VHS rental release exists with the cinema dub on it, but I don’t know for sure unfortunately.

Post
#1373269
Topic
Info: Preservation of Localized Texts in the Star Wars (1-6) Saga
Time

CourtlyHades296 said:

Maybe you could buy a 1997 Turkish VHS set and transfer the video & audio.

That’s exactly what I was thinking. I’ve done the same thing with some of the old Disney dubs only available on VHS. Maybe a VCD if there is a Turkish release (which is likely as Turkish VCD releases are very common.) Turkish dubs on VCD are called “Türkçe Dublaj”