rockin

Wow, what an AWESOME project. I'm only watching T2 bit by bit at the moment, and the picture quality and sound quality is excellent. I'm not sure exactly what you have done with the picture, but it looks miles better than my two blu-rays that I own (I only own the Skynet edition and the first region a mpeg2 blu-ray releases), so there was quite a lot more detail in the picture in this than I have seen before. Also, the colour looks fantastic. 

Of the three audio mixes, I opted to listen to the CDS mix, as I haven't really heard it for a long time. I definitely feel with the CDS mix, that I have noticed little things here and there, which I think may have been buried a little more in the later mixes. The music sounds as though it has a little bit more 'oomph' to it and is maybe clearer in parts - it seems to have maybe a bit more separation compared to the newest mixes, and maybe not quite as buried in some scenes, and I really like that!

All in all, I think Team-Blu have done a stellar job with this - this is well and truly the ultimate preservation of Terminator 2!

Thank you dark_jedi and all those involved in Team-Blu!

Yeah that looks quite a lot better.

I've bumped the old thread for anyone who wants to discuss this further:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Ghostbusters-Criterion-PCM-Track/topic/15158/page/4/

Harmy said:

Oh, yeah, no doubt about that - he can watch it black and white and pan and scan too for all I care. What I'm doubting is his premise that HD video is sharper than real life is. :-D

It might be possible, if say, he has crazy high sharpness and contrast in his TV settings. You know, the type that make your eyes bleed. O_O

Giving this thread a bump for those who wish to carry on with the discussion started in the 'Fan Edits of Other Films' section about a possible colour-correct or preservation of the theatrical colour-timing.

If anyone has the 1080i HDTV broadcast of the 1999 transfer it would be interesting to see some screenshots to compare with the 1999 DVD and blu-ray.

One thing that still intrigues me, is how the Criterion laserdisc compares to all the other releases. If anyone has that, and can post screenshots of the transfer, it would be great to see.

I would love to hear how ID4 sounds compared to the blu-ray. I was a little disappointed with the audio on blu-ray.

Could I please have an invite too? 

Erik Pancakes said:

Because it wasn't shown like that in non-IMAX cinema, and some people don't like the shifting aspect ratio.

Besides, the BR's aren't technically OAR either, as it crops the IMAX shots to 1.78:1 when they should be 1.44:1.

Yeah the blu-ray isn't, but I think the bonus disc on the ultimate collector's edition has the IMAX scenes closer to the OAR, same with TDKR too.

It's possible the TDK blu-ray was different because the studio had someone else oversee the transfter to blu-ray. It's possible Nolan's hands were tied in this instance, and went with whatever WB wanted to do with the release. That would be my view on the difference anyway, because none of his other films look that different.

AntcuFaalb said:

rockin said:

d_j would you consider doing a preservation for Stephen King's It? I'm certain there is 1080i HDTV file around somewhere.

Where?!?!?! O_O

 I grabbed a 720p version of the 1080i HDTV source a number of years ago, I think it was usenet. The trouble is, the 720p file I have is quite compressed. The 1080i HDTV file would be definitely better, and I'm certain it appeared at the same time as the 720p file. Unfortunately due to my poor download speeds at the time, I only grabbed the 720p file. :(

Wow, I came in here expecting something new and it was just another bump, oh well :(

For the record, does anyone know what happened to bobgarcia ? He had some amazing ideas.

Congrats Harmy - I'm so pleased for you!

d_j would you consider doing a preservation for Stephen King's It? I'm certain there is 1080i HDTV file around somewhere. It isn't available on blu-ray still, only dvd. I'm not sure if there would be enough interest in doing it, but just wanted to put it out there.

I don't buy that the blu-ray of TDK is the intended look at all. If the colour timing and the over-sharpened look were something Nolan approved, then why was the same not applied for the TDKR, and why was the TDKR colour timing closer to the original prologue TDK IMAX sequence included on the BB blu-ray?

Well, the laserdisc I have looks closer to the blu-ray, but also the 1999 dvd in parts. I always remember Ghostbusters being quite a dark and muddy looking transfer on VHS and TV. I never got to see the 35mm print, so no idea what that would be like in comparison.

I think the 4K blu-ray is the middle ground of all the transfers, but I can understand why some people might think it is a bit too boosted in parts. 

I have never seen what the criterion laserdisc transfer looks like, so that again might be different from the other formats. It would be interesting to compare if someone has it.

Someone also said they had a 1080i HDTV version of the 1999 transfer of Ghostbusters a while ago, that would be something worth preserving I think for those who prefer that colour-timing/transfer with the criterion laserdisc audio.

Ady, that CC of AOTC looks amazing.

Will this be released like your CC of TPM at some point, or this all just for Revisited stuff?

Either way, it just shows how effective a decent CC can transform the look and atmosphere of a scene tremendously.

Edit: Just noticed that some of the blasters and lightsabers seem different from the original, but its been years since I last watched AOTC so is this something new as well?

The colour-correction from that video CSchidmlapp looks the best I've seen it look since its theatrical run. Good job on that. Could you possibly do a comparison clip with the apple trailer as well?

I'm sorry, but I love it!

CRT days were awesome. I miss them if I'm totally honest.

If HD CRT Televisions were still available I would probably get one. Same with CRT monitors. It's hard to find either these days that are good condition still. :(

I really love the original colours of the BB TDK prologue. The iTunes trailer looks similar.

One thing that is odd is the TDKR colour timing is closer to the original BB TDK prologue...

This is a great project, I have always wanted to see TDK again in 2.35:1.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether the colour timing of the blu-ray and hdtv versions are exactly the same as the theatrical 35mm version? 

Harmy said:

It seems from the references I've seen, that the Endor colors were actually a bit colder than in v1.0, so I will adjust them accordingly.

Ok cool. Really looking forward to seeing how this turns out for ROTJ - really keen to also see how the Luke v vader duel looks towards the end too. :)

Really excited about this. Harmy what are the colours going to be like on Endor - are they going to be the same as previous versions or tweaked even more? 

I noticed Amazon Instant Video does too, but there's no way of downloading it unfortunately. 

Who knows, in the future there might be a ESB:Revisited:Revisited which could make Ronster's recent suggestions very important (not to say they aren't anyway)? ;-)

Great reviews!

Looks like team blu did an amazing job. I love all the artwork and case design - you can really see the great time and hard work put into it - far more than what most movie studios can be bothered to do.