rmclain73

As I am going through the gout DVDs a few question come to mind.  I am noticing a lot of pull down issues.  When ripping the DVDs the properties of the mpeg2 are 720x480 23.98fps.  

My question is this, where the DVDs created from the the same master that created the laserdisc, or were the DVDs actually created from the laserdisc?

Were laserdisc players able to handle 23.98 content, or was the laserdisc a 29.97 (25pal) framerate?

The gout DVDs may have already gone through two frame rate conversions, first going to the laserdisc, and second going to the DVD.  This surely will cause many of the motion problems we are seeing.  Not to mention the technology to do the conversion was no where near as good in 93 as it is now.

RU.08 said:

What can you do to the gout manually that will be so much better than what it already is when put through the g-force script? I don't mean to discourrage you, but the gout can only look so good, no ammount of manual labour will ever turn it into A-grade DVD quality, let alone anything else!

I say I am doing it manually as I do not know how to use their script.  May not come out looking as good, but will be a fun project. Going through scene by scene give you the access to adjust the keyframes on filter and color as needed.  Butt also like I said a lot of the problems that bother people with the gout release do not bother me as much as I do mind the look of aged film.

Let me start out by saying I wish I had found this site and board sooner.  Since the late 90’s I have missed the OT.  In 2004 I missed it even more once I saw the retail DVDs.  The GOUT release got me close, but with its non-anamorphic video, it just looked too small on my large home theater setup.  I kept out a little hope for the blu-ray releases but as I suspected, nothing.

Here is where this board, and help form all of you have come in.  I have read through hundreds of your posts, made notes, and studied all of your screen grabs.  I am now ready to start my very own project, “The Throwback Edition”.  My main video source will be the GOUT DVDs.  My goal is to recreate the films I fell in love with as a kid, and bring them back to their theatrical presentation as best I remember.

I will be using Final Cut Pro, Color, DVD Studio Pro, and Photoshop in my project.  I am not a script guy so everything will be done “manually” if you will.  I will color scene by scene, fix aspect, create new subs, and author DVD with multiple audio tracks.  No timeline of completion has been decided, just want it done until I am satisfied with all three films.

One thing I should add, I love the look of film.  I like it when my blu-rays of 80’s movies have a hint of film grain.  I am not overly worried about cleaning up all the grain, gate, and age problems of the GOUT transfer.  Sure, I will filter some of it best I can, but these are movies that are over 30 years old.  I like the look of older films, they look really nostalgic on my large screen.

Thanks again everyone for everything posted on this board.  I will follow the tradition and keep updates coming.

Thus far I have ripped all three films.  Converted them to a Apple Pro Res HQ quicktime using mpegstreamclip and brought them into Final Cut.  Next will be to correct the aspect ratio, and then color.  Star Wars will be done first.

DVD’s will be 480p.  No need to create them in HD as my player does such a good job on the upconvert.

Hello all, coming into the game late and I cannot find any live torrents of the mono mix.  I am beginning work on my own restore project and would love to include this audio.  

If any of you could PM me with a link I would be very thankful.  

Wish I had found this page sooner.