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#1538157
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The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON'T want an unaltered theatrical release of the OT
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darklordoftech said:

“There’s multiple original versions”/“it’s debatable which versions are actually the originals”.

Aside fron sound mix variations and the addition of “Episode IV: A New Hope”, I’m not aware of any pre-1997 variations.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases#A_New_Hope
and also the elusive 70mm version of ESB

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#1535145
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D+77 - Star Wars - 4k Theatrical reconstruction (Released)
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Ryan said:

omas4071 said:

What changes were missed in this awesome edit?

The changes that I noticed were:

  • R2-D2 and C-3PO’s escape pod cover on Tatooine remained grey and was not changed back to blue.

  • Darth Vader’s lightsaber stayed red when Luke blasted the door on the Death Star.

  • The detention hall’s hallway remained altered with the special edition version when Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewbacca were attempting to escape.

These were the only changes that I noticed which were not restored to the theatrical version; otherwise, everything else was pretty much originally unaltered and theatrical.

I remember hearing that special edition “thud” noise from when the Storm Tropper hits his head on the blast door.

When I was checking it out on the computer and comparing it to other projects side by side, I think there are some shots that can be updated to better versions. You know the film scans used to cover up the crappy CGI.

One thing that surprised me was when Luke and Leia were in that tube where they had to swing over to get away from the Storm Troopers. Their voices were super echoey.

i thought the audio was sourced from schorman’s Star Wars LaserDisc Audio Archive and hairy_hen’s 70mm recreation

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#1532648
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schorman's HDTV Star Wars Saga Preservation (Released)
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The Phantom Menace, aside from visual changes like CGI Yoda and audio changes like the removal of the “Vote now!” chanting, one of the biggest changes is that the video masters are very different. I believe the 2001 master might have more edge enhancement. The 2011 master might have been better if it wasn’t smudged to oblivion. The 2019 master adds one minor change to the podracing sequence, but it’s not something you’d notice unless you were looking for it (a visual change when Anakin was reaching out for a cable)

the podrace change was from the 3D version IIRC

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#1520505
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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CatBus said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

Kyp_Astaar said:

I can finally rewatch Return of the Jedi without any embarassing CGI shenanigans (of which this particular movie is fuller than any other in the trilogy), i could never thank each and everyone that took part in this project enough.

May the force be with you all.

4K83 is superior. It’s a 35mm scan from film prints.

4K83 is impressive, but I personally prefer DeEd, YMMV. IMO the dividing line is between those who want a perfect recreation of the theatrical experience, versus those who are looking more for something like what a respectful Blu-ray restoration of the film to have been. Both are fine goals.

i agree, although something like D+77 D+80 and OTD83 fit that as well

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#1494794
Topic
looking for specific star wars holiday special copy
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Joel said:

The link is broken. Was the Rifftrax version sync’d to the WMAR broadcast? Anyway, a google search suggests that Zion Hybrid v2 is what you want.

Good luck!

i have access to Zion’s Hybrid v2, Rifftrax synced it to this google video copy and they later bundled their commentry with Zion’s Hybrid v1

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#1477602
Topic
The Star Wars Holiday Special: The Definitive Release (Help Needed) (WIP)
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Darth telly said:

nobodybutjarjar42 said:

Darth telly said:

Does anyone have the Rifftrax version of the special?

the rifftrax version is availible here and on youtube albeit with the very start replaced with some stock music and the cartoon is removed

can someone just send me the audio in high quality please, I dont care about the video.

btw the rifftrax release is drm free

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#1477278
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List of Changes between Versions of the Prequel Trilogy
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D-O said:

nobodybutjarjar42 said:

“-During Mace Windu and Jango Fett’s fight, additional smoke and sparks were added to Jango’s jetpack.” this does not seem to be true

I’ve seen conflicting reports, but I haven’t been able to confirm or deny it either way. I haven’t seen any comparisons, nor am I able to make my own (since I don’t currently have a copy of any of the theatrical versions), so I’m leaving it there for now until a definitive answer appears.

it seems like the reason this spread was the fact in the commentry track george lucas says they changed it for the digital theatrical and dvd releases but when you check there is not a difference

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#1476192
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List of Changes between Versions of the Prequel Trilogy
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D-O said:

Never came across a single definitive list, so I thought I would make one myself.


The Phantom Menace

Theatrical/VHS/Laserdisc

-When the Jedi, Queen Amidala and Anakin arrive on Coruscant, Qui-Gon states that ‘the situation has become much more complicated’, there is an optical wipe to an establishing shot of Senator Palpatine’s quarters. It then cuts to the interior.

DVD

-In his first scene, Sebulba’s subtitles are changed to remove “Skywalker", since Sebulba doesn’t actually say Anakin’s last name in the scene.
-Several introductions of other racers are included.
-A shot of Watto cheering Sebulba is removed.
-Shots of the podracers starting were added.
-The podrace scene is extended, with more footage during the second lap: A shot of a tradesman in the stands, Anakin outwitting his rival Gasgano, Anakin repairing his racer after an engine detaches, and a reaction shot of a racer before he crashes.
-After Qui-Gon’s line, there is a new scene in which Padmé, Anakin and Jar Jar board an air taxi. The taxi’s journey allows for an extended view of the Coruscant cityscape before the wipe to Palpatine’s quarters. The establishing shot of Senator Palpatine’s quarters is omitted, with an optical wipe at the end of the air taxi sequence to the inside of the building. The shot with Jar Jar and Ani at the beginning of the scene is also shortened.
-Orn Free Taa’s aides have been replaced by Twi’leks.
-A bridge is added to a shot of the Naboo landscape.
-Pink tints appear during certain scenes.

Blu-ray

-The opening crawl was re-composited against the starfield.
-A new blurring effect is used when Obi-Wan Kenobi and Qui-Gon Jinn use Force Speed to escape the droidekas. This new effect is also visible as the Jedi run down the corridor in the next shot.
-When Nute Gunray and Rune Haako are observing the droideka on a viewscreen as they pursue the Jedi, the shot looks very different. It’s no longer a close-up, but a wide shot. It also features a new digital effect for the screen itself.
-An error that causes Fode and Beed’s hand to clip through their clothing has been fixed.
-Right after Jabba the Hutt’s introduction before the podrace a new voice is heard from a spectator when the camera is focused on the crowd.
-In the scene where Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan discuss Anakin Skywalker’s fate on Coruscant, the sun was brightened from orange to white.
-Calls from the Senate to “Vote now!” when Queen Amidala puts forward a motion of no confidence have been replaced with the sound of a general uproar.
-The Yoda puppet has been replaced with CGI.
-The pink tints have been corrected.
-The scene composition affected by image magnification in the original DVD release was restored bringing around 8% more picture to the frame.

Attack of the Clones

35mm Theatrical

-Anakin and Padme do not hold hands.

Digital Theatrical

-Anakin and Padme hold hands.

IMAX Cutdown Version

-20+ minutes are cut. Cut scenes include:
The Jedi Council meeting with Palpatine after the first assassination attempt
Obi-Wan in the Jedi Archives
Anakin complaining about Obi-Wan’s mentorship skills to Padme
Padme and Anakin meet with Queen Jamillia on Naboo.
The meadow picnic scene
Anakin riding on a shaak
Dooku speaking with Obi-Wan while Obi-Wan is being held prisoner on Geonosis
Anakin and Obi-Wan’s initial meeting with Padme
Bail Organa’s lines are all removed.
-The closing credits are played in a slide-show format rather than the traditional upward scroll.

VHS/DVD

-Extra speeders are removed in the scene where Obi-Wan catches the lightsaber.
-The scene with Anakin’s confession to Padme about the Tusken slaughter is extended, and the music has been looped to accommodate the footage.
-During Mace Windu and Jango Fett’s fight, additional smoke and sparks were added to Jango’s jetpack.
-Padme’s “Yes” is changed to a more natural “Uh-huh” after falling out of the Republic Gunship.

Blu-ray

-Shmi’s voice is added into Anakin’s nightmare, calling to Anakin for help.
-During the speeder chase, when Anakin and Obi-Wan pass through the damaged power coupling, several shots are rearranged.
-Dooku’s escape scene is re-edited, which created an irregularity in background music.
-There is a new color grade.

Revenge of the Sith

Theatrical

-In the scene where Obi-Wan has just left Mustafar aboard Padmé’s skiff, there is an optical wipe to a shot of Vader clawing his way up the bank of a river of molten lava.

VHS/DVD

-The wipe in the Mustafar scene is changed to a hard cut.
-At the end of the scene where Darth Vader is created, there is a different wipe.

Blu-ray

-The scene in which the Clone Army arrives on Utapau is altered, adding dialogue from the troopers as they land on platform.
-The Kashyyyk headquarters rooftop was rendered to appear more significantly aged by adding moss and rust.
-The wipe in the Mustafar scene has been restored.


If there is anything that needs correcting/added, feel free to bring it up.

“-During Mace Windu and Jango Fett’s fight, additional smoke and sparks were added to Jango’s jetpack.” this does not seem to be true

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#1475836
Topic
The Star Wars Holiday Special: The Definitive Release (Help Needed) (WIP)
Time

zman said:

I realize it’s not the Amazon web-rip, but there is a 1080p Chasing Christmas up on Youtube, and it appears to be the full movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSbYG2MdTY.

This is my list of parameters when downloading with youtube-dl

-f bestvideo+bestaudio/best
--all-subs
--embed-subs
--write-thumbnail
--add-metadata
--fixup detect_or_warn
--no-check-certificate

yt-dlp is WAY better, use -S hdr:dv with yt-dlp