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Originally posted by: Karyudo
There is an awful lot of hype surrounding the Japanese SC. I can confirm that the SC is overall not nearly as good a viewing experience as the DC. There are a few (and here I stress a few) scenes that might have more raw detail, but the noise that is encoded right into the disc makes watching it in motion not the best experience. Getting from "raw detail" to "improved viewing experience" is non-trivial.
This SC vs. DC stuff is a little bit like comparing... well, I don't know. All I know is, even with my relatively-decent Pioneer CLD-D925, there is no way I would base an LD-to-DVD project on the SC alone. Or even the SC first and foremost. It is, at best, something to be used very sparingly, in highly-specific cases. Sorta like using spackle to repair holes in drywall, maybe. You wouldn't want to make the whole wall out of spackle, would you?
There is an awful lot of hype surrounding the Japanese SC. I can confirm that the SC is overall not nearly as good a viewing experience as the DC. There are a few (and here I stress a few) scenes that might have more raw detail, but the noise that is encoded right into the disc makes watching it in motion not the best experience. Getting from "raw detail" to "improved viewing experience" is non-trivial.
This SC vs. DC stuff is a little bit like comparing... well, I don't know. All I know is, even with my relatively-decent Pioneer CLD-D925, there is no way I would base an LD-to-DVD project on the SC alone. Or even the SC first and foremost. It is, at best, something to be used very sparingly, in highly-specific cases. Sorta like using spackle to repair holes in drywall, maybe. You wouldn't want to make the whole wall out of spackle, would you?
Well, this maybe true, but maybe not. Why? Well, because of the players. I have had 4 different CLD-925, two DVL-909, one CLD-315, CLD-501, CLD-503, LD-S9, two HLD-X9 and two HLD-X0 and one thing that are the biggest difference between these player is the way they handle noise. And this is not always the same. I give an example:
One LD can have a really noisey picture on the CLD-925. Let say, 7/10 in noise. The same LD on the HLD-X0 will have less noise, maybe 3/10.
Another LD can have an even nosier picture, say 8/10 on the CLD-925. But when we use that on the HLD-X0, we would think it could be 4/10, but it's only 6/10.
So there is a difference between players AND what LD. The only thing that will be the same is that the HLD-X0 will give a better image. Sometimes much better and sometime a LOT better.
The X0 project is the only really project that will give us the original movies in the best shape ever. I think we should try our most to see if we can dig out even a little more detail and picture quality if we can. Maybe the japanese SC is not as good as the DC, but then we know that, but only if we have tried it. I don't know if they are framed the same, then one could use some scenes that looks better in the SC in the final X0 DVD. I can nothing about restoring the image, but I think in most cases a more detailed but a little more nosey picture is better than a softer but less nosey picture, to work from.
I have just sent me PDI delux card for upgrading to high-grade BNC connection. Then I could try a lot of new capture with different machines (the HLD-X9, but I don't see whatt could be better with it) and settings.
These guys have spent a LOT of time and money on this project and I would hope that they don't rush anything. Better to do it right the first time than going back (that will probebly never happen).
/Mattias