nhoj3

Depheros said:

Just as a test, here’s the beginning of the sail barge sequence with flipped shots put back:
https://vimeo.com/238829311
It’s more jarring than the original, without a doubt. Although, I do like that Mark Hamill’s face is flipped back to normal now. I think that’s the main giveaway.

IMHO that looks incredibly promising. I never realized how incredibly off putting it was to see Mark Hamill’s face flipped like that. As someone else said, it really bothered me on a gut-level and I didn’t realize why.

trimboNZ said:

nhoj3 said:

NeverarGreat said:

One real suggestion - remove Ackbar’s first line ‘You can see here the Death Star orbiting the forest moon of Endor’. It’s technically incorrect, since the Death Star must remain above the shield generator. Also, he repeats the info about the forest moon later, so nothing is lost.

It’s still in orbit, it’s just in a geosynchronous orbit.

A geostationary orbit to be precise 😛

You are correct sir! Consider me educated. 😃

Hal 9000 said:

Wow, I remember being a cringey youngster around here, and now there’s people younger than TPM making intelligent points!

EDIT: I joined as a 13-year-old in 2003.

You can probably guess that I’m older based on my choice of Kirks.

Though Chris Pine is also fantastic.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Though I struggle to understand what everyone finds so great about ESB (not even close to being my favorite), I will give them credit for the fact that it’s the one SW movie for which I can’t think of anything to improve upon. That probably stems from not knowing what exactly it’s lacking.

Out of curiosity, what is your ranking from favourite to least? Having a sense of what you value in a Star Wars film might help illuminate what you feel is lacking in ESB.

NeverarGreat said:

One real suggestion - remove Ackbar’s first line ‘You can see here the Death Star orbiting the forest moon of Endor’. It’s technically incorrect, since the Death Star must remain above the shield generator. Also, he repeats the info about the forest moon later, so nothing is lost.

It’s still in orbit, it’s just in a geosynchronous orbit.

I’m fairly certain it’s too late for this suggestion in Adywan’s work, but I love the idea in Sparkysywer’s thread that DS1 wasn’t actually destroyed in ANH, but rather severely damaged, rebuilt during ESB, and then revealed again for ROTJ. I don’t see the need to change much… a new destruction effect in ANH, and modified crawls for ESB and ROTJ.

I think that it’s an elegant solution to the rehash problem of DS2.

I sincerely doubt that you will find any feedback here that will actually address your basic question. Changing an effect here or there will not make you appreciate the movie more. Alternate musical cues will not result in a sudden epiphany. Blood and nudity will certainly not do it.

I don’t know your particular age or background but I find that many people who did not see ESB when it came out do not put it on the same pedestal as do many of us. IMHO it’s because Star Wars ushered in a new era of kid fantasy movies. Prior to that we had… well, not much - Superman the Movie and Star Wars. Star Wars also revolutionized the toy industry so we also invested ourselves in a way like never before as we created our own new adventures with our heroes (ironically toys ultimately became the downfall of good filmmaking in Star Wars for decades to come). We had never seen anything like it… I imagine it was something like witnessing the emergence of rock music from the crooners of 1940s.

And of course ultimately it comes down to what you value in a film. Of all the films ESB arguably has the least “spectacle” going on, but also has the best character development and dialogue. Other elements of what made it so great have been watered down over time. When ESB came out it solidified Darth Vader as the ultimate screen villain, a menace that would kill any officer who disappointed, and who would beat our hero from one side of Cloud City to the other before chopping off his hand and telling him that “I f*cked your mom”. Today that reveal has become a punchline, but back then even James Earl Jones thought that Vader must have been lying.

Ultimately some movies become “great” because of the times is which they were born. Nowadays Elvis isn’t cutting edge music, he’s “oldies”. I think ESB is like that, and maybe because you didn’t experience it within that context that you don’t view it the same. Nowadays there are MANY great sequels. Back then there was only Godfather II, and that wasn’t meant for us kids.

Sorry if I’ve incorrectly profiled you… I feel that my point is still valid based on my experience with others.

Just my humble $0.02.

I’ve not had a chance to view ChainsawAsh’s rough cut yet, but I wanted to thank YodaFan67 for creating the thread and everyone else for their posts.

It has been a welcome respite from the trivial minutiae and pettiness being debated in the Adywan thread.

SilverWook said:

It’s a joke. Somebody never saw The Great Muppet Caper. 😛

I have seen it, but clearly it’s been too long. I shall have to remedy that. 😛

ray_afraid said:

I agree, but this set in during the carbon freezing scene in Empire. 3PO suddenly becomes the voice that tells the idiots in the audience what’s going on and that trait follows him to Jedi.

SilverWook said:

It’s plot exposition. It has to go somewhere.

With respect, it’s bad plot exposition when it breaks the “show, don’t tell” rule of writing.

IMHO his exposition in ESB is forgivable as the audience is obviously completely unfamiliar with the potential outcomes of carbon freezing a human being. Having Threepio inform the audience is beneficial, and the way it was written was handled quite deftly.

Oh, they’ve encased him in carbonite. He should be quite well protected. If he survived the freezing process, that is.

Yes he comments directly on what’s happening on screen, but the primary comment is on the technical result of the process, with Han’s well-being a secondary thought. Exposition is delivered in an organic way with a dash of humour.

However in ROTJ it’s just amateur writing. The DarthRush edit trims this dialogue and the movie is better for it.

chyron8472 said:

nhoj3 said:

That’s one of the things that I’d like Ady to consider changing, what many people have referred to as the “Flanderization” of C-3PO. While Threepio is certainly a worrywart, that personality trait has become a caricature in ROTJ. In ANH, Threepio successfully bluffed past Stormtroopers on the Death Star and was decisive in choosing when to leave hiding and try to board the Falcon. In ROTJ the caricature version of Threepio has been left out of the plan and (because of his ignorance) could easily work against it at any moment.

I would like to see any edits made that could instead have him included in the plan.

3PO is more than a worrywart. You’re ignoring Empire, where he says “I really don’t see how that is going to help. Surrender is a perfectly acceptable alternative in extreme circumstances. The Empire may be gracious and…”[Leia shuts him off]. He also dismissed R2’s mission in ANH in favor of hanging out with Luke and trusting Luke with any potentially classified information simply because “he’s our new master.” 3PO can not be trusted with sensitive information because he surrenders too easily when under pressure.

Meanwhile, R2 knows when to keep his mouth shut, so to speak.

I have to give you that one with regards to his ability to be a liability, although I still think that they’ve hurt his character with terrible dialogue such as “Oh look, it’s Captain Solo” and “Oh no, Chewbacca!”.

There was an “or” in my original post, which kept the “worryart” aspect of the character as-is:

nhoj3 said:

Or as I said in another thread, if that doesn’t get traction then I wonder if it would be possible to replace his line “Hmm, I wish I had your confidence” with something else, like “What do you mean it’s part of the plan?”.

Between Droids, the PT, Clone Wars, video games, and Rebels, surely Anthony Daniels has done enough voice work as Threepio to cobble together a single line that sounds natural.

trimboNZ said:

“This can’t be; Artoo, you’re playing the wrong message!”
…
“Hmmm, I wish I had your confidence.”

Clearly Threepio wasn’t in on the plan. I assume that Luke and Artoo would have counted on Threepio just being his usual self.

That’s one of the things that I’d like Ady to consider changing, what many people have referred to as the “Flanderization” of C-3PO. While Threepio is certainly a worrywart, that personality trait has become a caricature in ROTJ. In ANH, Threepio successfully bluffed past Stormtroopers on the Death Star and was decisive in choosing when to leave hiding and try to board the Falcon. In ROTJ the caricature version of Threepio has been left out of the plan and (because of his ignorance) could easily work against it at any moment.

I would like to see any edits made that could instead have him included in the plan.

Or as I said in another thread, if that doesn’t get traction then I wonder if it would be possible to replace his line “Hmm, I wish I had your confidence” with something else, like “What do you mean it’s part of the plan?”.

Between Droids, the PT, Clone Wars, video games, and Rebels, surely Anthony Daniels has done enough voice work as Threepio to cobble together a single line that sounds natural.

RogueLeader said:

nhoj3, solid analysis. I’m sure many others have broken down the plan in a similar way. I also came to a similar conclusion when I first started thinking about fanediting ROTJ. After some time I tried to think of a simpler solution that would require less changes, since even this multiple back-up plan theory stills seems overly complicated. But after some time, I think that maybe Luke’s plan was to get to the Sarlacc all along, and to get as much back-up there for the escape as possible.

How does this work? It works under the assumption that Lando has learned the ins-and-outs of Jabba’s palace since he has been undercover. Maybe Lando came to the conclusion that escaping the palace was almost impossible, and Jabba would be unwilling to bargain. Jabba himself is practically untouchable, but one of the few times Jabba leaves his palace with only a fraction of his guards is when he goes to the Pit of Carkoon for executions. So, instead of someone having to escape the heavily fortified palace, Jabba literally takes prisoners out of his fortress and practically hands them a getaway vehicle (the skiffs).

With this in mind, things can start to make more sense. Luke “gifted” the droids to Jabba in order to get them conveniently placed jobs that get them on the inside (maybe Lando sabotaged the previous barge droid and translator). Chewbacca was brought in as extra muscle for the sail barge escape and as a means for Leia to get in. Leia’s mission was to get Han out of the carbonite, but she went in knowing that actual escape was unlikely. I don’t think they planned for Leia to be made into a slave girl, but Leia did make it work in the end. Bottomline, Han had to be let out, otherwise he would be left frozen in the palace while everyone else went to the Sarlacc to be killed.

And if you think about it, Lando could have let Han out himself, but actually getting out of the palace was pretty much impossible, and they needed as much back-up as possible for the sail barge escape, which I think was why Leia and Chewie were brought into it. And with Lando compromised, they wouldn’t have anyone on the inside to make sure that all the pieces were where they needed to be.

Then it comes down to Luke. Luke’s job would be to take out the Rancor, the only other man-eating creature keeping them from the Sarlacc (and their escape). I think Lando obviously would have told Luke about the trap floor, which makes me think falling into the Rancor Pit was intentional. Once that inital means of execution was out of the way, the only thing left to satisfy Jabba’s well-known ego was to kill his enemies with the Sarlacc. Everything points to it; R2, Chewie and Luke seem confident the whole time, R2 is exactly where he needs to be with the lightsaber, and everybody is nodding their heads at each other like this is exactly where they wanted to be. Maybe they just didn’t tell 3PO so they could add an air of authenticity to the situation. They can’t all be cool, calm and collected.

And I think there would only need to be minimal changes to help this plan be clearer.

• I would rather remove as little footage as possible, but when Luke is in the Rancor Pit, you could cut a shot or two of him desperately trying to get out through the door. If he needs to kill the Rancor, he shouldn’t be trying to escape just yet. So show him running across the pit, cut to the Rancor turning around, then cut back to Luke looking for the gate switch.

• Another change that could help would be to add/alter a line from Jabba. For example, when Leia and Han get caught by Jabba, he says something before Han starts trying to talk his way out of it (like he always does, EVERY TIME), but there are no subtitles there. Maybe Jabba could say something about how escaping his palace is impossible, or how they never would have gotten past all of his guards, or how no one leaves his palace unless he allows it, etc. There may be a better place to put this kind of line, but a line like this could help foreshadow or hint to the plan.

• A third, not completely necessary change would be to add more guards throughout his palace.

Personally, I’ve accepted this as their plan and I think the movie already works pretty well as is with that in mind. The main thing that sticks out to me is Luke trying to get out of the Rancor Pit, but one could probably rationalize that somehow. These changes might help make that plan clearer if Adywan or another editor felt the need to clarify the plan.

Sorry for the long post, just thought I would put this idea out there while it was on topic.

TL;DR The Han Rescue Plan was to get to the Sarlacc Pit. It was the easiest way to get everyone out of the palace, away from the majority of Jabba’s guards, and to get a free escape vehicle.

You know what? Thanks for this.

I’ve seen a lot of people trying to bend over backwards, practically demanding that this sequence be re-shot from scratch, but I think that you’re explanation is a great one. Not only do I buy it, but as you stated, it also has the added benefit of preserving the majority of what was originally filmed. The only issue is that the audience shouldn’t have to think this hard for something to make as much sense as you’ve explained it.

Rather than bickering about it, I’d like to see as many people get behind your explanation and put our collective efforts into thinking about what small tweaks could be made to support it.

For example, there’s an additional element in the Rancor scene that I think could be trimmed, which is when Luke chooses to hide under the rock crevice and hit the rancor in the finger. To me, it would be more preplanned if he immediately ran to the antechamber after the Rancor initially drops him.

I also like the idea of adding/changing subtitles to help support your explanation, and not necessarily limited to Jabba. I’d be tempted to go back and see if there’s any opportunity to steal a line or two from Bib Fortuna that could be re-purposed. I still think that a very brief exchange between Threepio and Boushh could help.

And I’m not giving up on the de-Flanderization of C-3PO, but that doesn’t work against your explanation and can be considered independently from this. I would like to see him included in the plan, but if that can’t work well then I wonder if it would be possible to replace his line “Hmm, I wish I had your confidence” with something else, like “What do you mean it’s part of the plan?”. Between Droids, the PT, Clone Wars, video games, and Rebels, surely Anthony Daniels has done enough voice work as Threepio to cobble together a single line that sounds natural.

Any thoughts?

ray_afraid said:

doubleofive said:

My concern is why does it have to be Adywan-specific, and not just go in the Wishlist Thread you already referenced?

This.

Hi ray_afraid,

I mean this question with 100% sincerity and 0% dickishness… but why “This.”?

Honestly, I’ve looked through the guidelines and don’t see how this thread violates anything. Furthermore I looked at page 1 of the “ESB and ROTJ wishlist” and even the OP in that thread references Adywan in the first sentence. In fact, I’m pretty sure it’s only “ESB and ROTJ” (and not ANH) because Ady had just released ANH Revisited, making it an unofficial Revisited thread, not a generic OT thread.

I’m really struggling with the etiquette of this site. To me it seems pretty arbitrary. If you could point me to something definitive that makes you say “This”, I would greatly appreciate it because I don’t want a post that I’ve thought long and hard about to be ignored because of some guideline that I’ve missed.

Thanks in advance…

If anyone is interested in my take on what could be done to improve the rescue scenes, I’ve posted it here in the ROTJ wish list thread.

Though for the life of me I don’t know why I can’t just paste it in here based on what else gets posted in here without protest.

Here’s my take on the rescue plan. In order to “fix” the rescue plan I first wanted to understand what the plan actually WAS so that we could then remove any elements that contradict or work against it.

Plan A: The droids arrange for a meeting with Luke. Luke plans to negotiate/ use a Jedi mind trick to get Jabba to release everyone. Luke either gets the droids out as part of the deal or leaves them for Lando to smuggle out.

Outcome: Jabba rules this out immediately upon hearing Luke’s message. Lando presumably informs the team that Plan A has failed.

Plan B: Leia infiltrates Jabba’s court and attempts to break Han out. The haste of the plan means that she must sacrifice Chewbacca to buy credibility. If successful, this plan requires Lando to smuggle Chewie and the droids out later.

Outcome: Jabba doesn’t fall for the deception. Everyone is captured now except for Lando and Luke. Lando presumably informs Luke.

Luke arrives and makes one last attempt at Plan A. This fails, leaving…

Plan C: Everyone to fight their way out. Luke was likely hoping that Artoo would be present to provide his smuggled lightsaber but with Artoo absent Luke resorts to stealing a blaster. Whether he planned to kill or merely threaten Jabba is unknown.

Outcome: Everyone captured.

So what elements of the film do I feel work against this?

1. The need for the word “presumably” in my summaries speaks at least to the perception of the plans complexity. The audience is left to piece a lot of it together. In fact it wasn’t until I wrote it all down that it made some sort of sense.
2. The “Flanderization” of C-3PO. While Threepio is certainly a worrywart, that personality trait has become a caricature in ROTJ. In ANH, Threepio successfully bluffed past Stormtroopers on the Death Star and was decisive in choosing when to leave hiding and try to board the Falcon. In ROTJ the caricature version of Threepio has been left out of the plan and (because of his ignorance) could easily work against it at any moment.
3. Poor execution of the Boushh deception. Chewbacca is brought in with only a neck restraint, while in ANH they knew that binders was a better sell. Red flags were raised with Chewie overpowering Jabba’s guard in the stairwell but allowing Boushh to so easily tame him.
4. Luke’s overconfidence on the skiff in claiming that everything was under control when all plans had failed by this point.

Potential improvements:

Plan transitions: Would it help if we made the transition from Plan A to Plan B more obviously necessary? We’re limited to what we can do with what footage we have. One easy target would be through Jabba’s subtitles. E.g. Currently Jabba’s dialogue that puts an end to Plan A is as follows:

“There will be no bargain.
I will not give up my favorite decoration.
I like Captain Solo where he is.”

Perhaps it could be expanded as follows:

“There will be no bargain.
If this so-called Jedi shows his face, kill him.
I will not give up my favorite decoration.
I like Captain Solo where he is.”

Strengthen C-3PO: Start by strengthening Threepio’s character by removing obvious dialogue like “Oh look, its Captain Solo and he’s still frozen in carbonite” and “Oh no, Chewbacca”.

Next remove dialogue that shows him to be ignorant of the plan. Going one step further, can we incorporate him into the plan? A few people have already mentioned the brief scene after the Chewbacca exchange where Boushh is facing Threepio (just prior to the Boba Fett nod). Subtitled audio of Boushh could say something like:

“Stick to the Plan. Tonight.”

A few moments later we see Lando in disguise, so we know that something is afoot.

Selling Boushh: Instead of having Chewbacca shove the guard, would it be possible for him to be killed by blaster? Would it be possible to add additional chains to Chewbacca?

Luke’s overconfidence: Cut Luke’s line:

Just stick close to Chewie and Lando. I’ve taken care of everything.
As well as Han’s response.

Those are just my humble $0.02.

Hey .Mac.

A few weeks back you were kind enough to respond to my list of ideas and suggested that I might be interested in reading yours. It’s taken me a few weeks to get through all of your suggestions, but I wanted to be sure that I went through each idea and give them their proper due.

Let me start by saying that your love and dedication to Star Wars is obvious. In my opinion, this is probably of THE definitive list that I’ve seen so far for continuity errors and effects changes that should be considered for any ROTJ fan fix. You’ve pointed out things here that I’ve never even noticed, and to be honest a part of me wishes that you hadn’t because once you “seen” an error it’s impossible to “un-see” it. 😉

I think that you already know and that you’ve over-reached in some areas but I’m glad that you didn’t hold back in putting your suggestions out there. While getting lookalikes and voice impersonators probably won’t get much traction, I hope that Ady will give your thread a proper read to pick out what he thinks are valuable changes to be made. Since we know that he’s adding additional Rebels to Endor, perhaps some of your strike team ideas can be incorporated… You never know where your ideas might take some people!

Let me also say that I’m more than a little disappointed with some people’s responses on this thread. Not bothering to read your work is one thing, but then to specifically take the time to post and be a dick about it is another. I guess that makes some people feel big from behind the safety of a keyboard. Don’t listen to them. Having the courage to put your ideas out there is what is big.

Keep up the good work. I’ll be sure to pay extra attention when I see you’re posts to see what else you’ve come up with.

I have no idea what Ady’s plans are for Max Rebo, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he went back to the “Red Ball Jett” concept art for inspiration.

I’m not sure if restoring Max’s “arms” to instead be “legs” would improve the overall effect of the character, but it’s not likely to make it look worse.

One thing that bugs me about the rescue plan is how Boushh brings Chewbacca in largely unbound. Yes he has a chain around his neck but his hands and feet are free. Unless the neck chain is some kind of magical Wookiee restraining bolt he should be ripping people’s arms out of their sockets to flee. They knew this in ANH but seemed to forget it in ROTJ. It’s also pretty clear that it’s Chewbacca and not Boushh who takes out Jabba’s guard in the entryway, so why doesn’t the Wookiee snap the diminutive bounty hunter’s neck?

Seems like a dead giveaway that the Boushh exchange was a poorly thought out and executed attempt.

I’ll admit that I’m a little new here, but can someone please explain the etiquette of this specific thread? Everyone seems to be afraid of discussing an idea in any sort of depth here and people keep suggesting to take the discussion to a more generic ROTJ thread.

So… what? Do we all just abandon this thread and let Ady provide updates when he’s ready? I get not talking about ESB or ANH changes in here, but what’s the definition of what’s “appropriate Revisited talk” in here?

jarbear said:

Return of the Jedi will be the most interesting of the two on what Ady will decide to do. Compared to the first two, this one does need SOME degree of editing … be it story, plot, structure, etc. ANH and ESB were fine on their own movies wise, which don’t need “fixing” for the story or pace. Adding some polish to them like Ady did was perfectly legitimate and did not retract from those edits.

ROTJ does need something. I like the movie, but there is an “offness” to it compared to the other two. Nostalgic, yes, but as a movie … needs something. Granted it does not need to be DRASTIC thing done … but definitely needs more editing then revisiting.

Granted, Ady did fantastic with the previous two, so I am happy to wait and see what he does. Its good for people to talk about it and throw ideas since some of these turds could be simple gems for Ady to use. 😉

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I think that the “offness” you refer to is the result of Gary Kurtz leaving following a tough ESB production. When that happened George Lucas had no one left to reel him in and actually craft a good “story”; characters and logic took a back seat to thrills and toys. In my humble opinion, not having anyone to challenge Lucas was the reason that everything was downhill after ESB. But that probably belongs in another thread.

If Ady can make some changes to improve the tone, tighten the narrative, and add some depth then I have no doubt that it will make a movie that you will love to watch, even if it’s not what you or I personally envisioned.

I think that he’s earned that amount of trust.

Jani-wan said:

Not absolute, but close to it, yes. Most of the times.
It is because Im thinking every possible angle that I can come up with, argue myself, trying to find ways to prove that Im wrong, before I post anything.
Other people don’t. They try to bend everything to fit their desired outcome.
Still Im always open to change my mind, if the argument is convincing.

Every possible angle, eh?

Boba Fett: Why does this guy with the “too good to be true” deal insist on hiding his face to us? What, he want to be a palace guard and start immediately? Make him show his face. Oh look, it’s Han Solo’s friend Lando Calrissian that objected to me bringing Solo to Jabba. How suspicious. Kill him.

I’m leaving it here. I can see where this is going. Feel free to consider it a week in your mind.

adywan said:

I haven’t had time to go through every comment yet, but here are a few things that WON’T be happening in ROTJ:R -

Revised Crawl - the crawl will be staying the same.

While I completely agree with all of his other choices, this is the only thing on Ady’s list that disappoints me. Maybe he’ll reconsider the idea when he reads NeverarGreat’s crawl… lol

Oh well! He’s doing all of the work, so he gets to make the decisions.

Jani-wan said:

Oh, my.
It does not have to be 2 weeks.
It can be 3 weeks, 4 weeks. can be anything that is reasonable.
It can not be 6 month. That is not reasonable.

Can not sacrifice common sense for actors aging, that is barely recognizable, and the character’s aging could be easily chalked up to effects of resent events.

Jabba is probably on Tatooine. That is his headquarters, at least in the movies.
But for the sake of this argument let’s assume that he can be anywhere.
You do not go to every single place Jabba owns, and infiltrate and etc…
I lay it out for you, how would I find Luke the easy way if Im Lando.
I hire someone to negotiate my deal with Jabba, probably an old acquaintance, who can be trusted with this for the right amount of money, and merely provide escort as a ‘mercenary bodyguard’.
Contact Jabba’s nearest ‘representative’ and present an offer with one condition, that I only make deals with Jabba himself. Make the offer irrefusable, success is guaranteed. You can always count on greed.
Now I have Jabba’s location, and free pass, and don’t have to travel around the galaxy planet to planet and infiltrate and etc…
When deal is completed, ask Jabba for a job. With good credentials Im in.
Call Luke.
How long does this takes?
Couple of days, a week maybe, depending on travel distance, since we only know where Tatooine is but we don’t know where the fleet is.
Searching the galaxy for months is just stupid.

You’re pretty absolute with your opinions. I’m willing to at least entertain the idea of more flexibility in life (and interesting storytelling). For arguments sake I’m willing to throw out all other “what ifs” and go with your plan above.

1. Finding an old acquaintance- maybe one day, maybe weeks, maybe months. Perhaps your acquaintance is on a smuggling run. Perhaps he’s laying low from the Empire. Perhaps he’s imprisoned by the Empire and needs to be liberated to buy the goodwill to set up the Jabba deal. Who’s to say?
2. Arrange a meeting with Jabba - maybe one day, maybe weeks. A good negotiator doesn’t want to seem desperate. Who’s to say?
3. Travel time - pretty flexible on the Star Wars galaxy. Who’s to say?
4. Initial deal and infiltration- Jabba would have to be the most gullible slug in the galaxy to hire on your schedule. We’ve already seen from Boushh that he’s smarter than that. Donnie Brasco went undercover for 6 years. John Sherwood went undercover for 3 years. Do you honestly think Lando would be hired as a palace guard, holding a lethal weapon only feet from Jabba in a few days? Months (at a minimum) is more likely, and only after Lando had proven himself by doing some pretty awful things. Again, who’s to say?

I keep saying “who’s to say” to drive home the point that opinions aren’t absolutes. Life doesn’t always take the straight path from A to B. I think that it’s more than “reasonable” that “months” have expired. Much more so than “weeks”.

NeverarGreat said:

It is a time of open war. As the Rebellion gathers its strength for a decisive strike, Luke Skywalker has returned to the hidden world of Dagobah to complete his Jedi training.

Unable to face the question of his true father, he awaits word from his friends as they prepare to rescue Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt.

Little do they know that the GALACTIC EMPIRE has secretly been constructing a new armored space station even more powerful than the first dreaded Death Star…

I had really hope that Ady would be blown away and use my revised crawl for the opening of ROTJ-Revisited. However, I’m big enough to admit when a better crawl comes along and so far this is my choice!

Great work! 😃