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Rox64 said:

Is this the deal that will keep the Empire out of here forever, negative1? ;)

So how can you know this U-matic telecine bootleg match the original theatrical colors?

we don't..

and actually previewing it,

they don't look that great either..

however, as a historical preservation,

it has it's place.. and maybe some of it

can be used as a reference.. (i haven't

watched the whole thing yet)..

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Jetrell Fo said:

negative1 said:

well, they didn't make it,

but will continue on.

maybe they'll come out with something

in the future:

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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/advancedfilmcapture/anthrocine-archival-film-digitizing-system/posts

 

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I hope they re-arrange their strategy and give it another go.  This would be a way to unify the film restoration and archival community. 

As for this thread, I am really sad to see that it went kinda south.  Shame really as I thought this was a solid article about something that would be beneficial to everyone.  Not that I'm surprised by what was said and who said it but still....it soiled a legitimate topic quite quickly.

:(

 

they need to be funded by an archive or private industry.

there's not enough interest from the public for the obscure

stuff they are going to be working on.

they need a lot better public relations and advertising too.

putting up more video clips, and explaining or showing the

actual machine would have helped, according to the comments.

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SilverWook said:

This would have to have been spread across two tapes, right? I never saw a U-matic tape longer than 90 minutes, and those were hard to get by the end of the 80's, at least they were in my neck of the woods.

Would be nice to see pictures of the tape if possible?

i will ask cinch about that..

and also we will have scans of it to post also..

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ok,

cinch has come across a nice rarity…

hinted at earlier…

a set of u-matic tapes:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-matic

pics of the deck and tapes:

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format : u-matic tape

title : return of the jedi telecine

year : 1983

=========================

condition : average, sound/video drop-outs

color : a little dull, with some parts blown out

sound : mono

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data about tapes:

2 tapes. one has 4 reels (i think), the other has 3 reels.

transferred off a VO-9600 u-matic sp deck.

1 channel audio only.

scotch uca-60 and uca-75 tapes

the telecine might be an rca tk66 or similar with tube cams.

they didn’t have a scope attachment (hence i think it was done on a filmchain) so they transferred it flat.

zoomed in quite a bit, edges are cropped off (see credits)

a friend gave it to him, and it has never been played until now… cinch located a u-matic deck, and hooked it up for a video transfer, and then converted it to a raw digital capture.

i have a 1000x480 WMV conversion of it.

pm me for the links ONLY if you can re-host it on other file sharing sites, usenet, and myspleen.

i’ll post more information, screenshots, and details as they come up.

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Harmy said:

OK, I'd like to revive this thread, since I want to start working on v2.0 next month.

If you guys have any suggestions about what could be improved over v1.0, now is the time to start discussing them :-)

we're not going to be done with our 35mm for quite some

time.

however, if you want, we can try to put together

a preview of our colors in a manner

like mike did for you, with star wars. probably in

uncompressed screenshots or something similar.

let me know, and we'll work something out. it

could be useful for some parts.

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georgec said:

Not a fan of more tinkering with the OT and selling these special edition iterations to people as the "final vision". But most SW fans will still buy anyway, because, you know, it's SW.

i don't mind the changes.

and yes, i'll keep buying them.

but that's just the obsessive compulsive

collector side of me.

of course there will be a 40th anniversary

boxset.

bring it on.

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jero32 said:

Yes, that is in fact the video I was talking about. (I figured this particular issue would be more at home in this thread.)

Good to know that it'll receive even more cleanup.

By this point my excitement's gonna kill me before it comes out :D

should have some more previews in a bit here

with the intro..

will post them when i can.

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Davnes007 said:

Map To Home

...

Bank Info

 

Anyway. My setup is pretty simple.

Samsung 40" 1080p LCD TV
Samsung BR Player
Pioneer Digital Receiver
Pioneer LD Player (CLD-3030)
LG VCR/DVD Recorder

If I took a picture of it all, I'd get endless comments about how my place is a f---ing mess. ;)

yeah,

my place looks like an electronics store exploded.

i have all kinds of goodies in mine.

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pittrek said:

You_Too said:

Probably the worst thing to ever come out of my country... haha

What about Abba ? :-)

nothing wrong with Abba.

to me...

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Jetrell Fo said:

negative1 said:

Saw this @ 35mm forum....and your pm inbox is full....

These prints are all in Excellent shape...Episodes 4-5-6 are the "Special editions". You also get the Animated "CLONE WARS". Thats 7 features in all. I'd like to sell these as a set. $5000.00 Plus shipping.

 

yeah,

i mentioned that here already:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Original-35mm-Theatrical-Versions-of-SE-Trilogy-and-Prequel-Trilogy-1997-2005/post/599363/#TopicPost599363

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Bobocop said:

Wait, DVD-9 tests?
And you've already made DVD-5 tests of Star Wars and Empire?

Not to get myself too excited, but does that mean it's nearing completion?

Or is it just burning test runs so you'll know exactly what to do when the real thing is finished? 

exactly. for the last statement.

i had a chance to show a preview to some people.

and had burned copies of the movie for it:

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 http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-watch-parties-are-you-planning-one-previews-videos/post/599468/#TopicPost599468

i'm testing out the formats too.

looks like cinch is pushing for an official

AVCHD format for them also... which is

something else i will need to test out.

ok guys, thanks for all the recommendations.

looks like i'll be trying out verbatim in the

future.

any more thoughts about programs for

using to burn the copies? and i do burn

at slower speeds, so i don't think that

was the problem.

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ok,

i have reels 4-6 of this now..

will post them when i get the chance

for you to preview.

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hmm.

running some tests on this..

made a dual layer DVD version,

but it has glitches in my samsung player,

i'm using memorex DVD+R.

i'll try some other brands.. any suggestions?

also i'm using NERO vision to master the

discs. i'll try another program to see if that

was the problem.

the single layer version of this and empire

didn't seem to have any problems..

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jero32 said:

Why couldn't you view the reels?

Stil sounded like alot of fun though.

yeah, it was fun!

lack of time setting up the reels..

they had to prepare for the digital

projectors..

maybe another time..

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AntcuFaalb said:

lpd said:

Its Lucas. He's getting Harmy to sort out his next releases.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was him. He's a real nutter nowadays.

i'm sure he thinks most of the people here are crazy,

and i would agree as one of them! ha ha

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well,

we didn't get to see the reels yesterday.

however,

a group of about 10 people were able

to watch the first Preview 0 versions of

star wars, and the empire strikes back 35mm

 versions off a DVD player.

i have made single and dual-layer downscales

of both movies. and the quality was very good

concerning the limitations of the format. definitely

better looking than the GOUT.

got a lot of nice comments, and people were definitely

eager to hear about the work being done on them,

and wondering when and where the completed

versions were going to be out.

had a fun time talking about movies with the people

there. this was the last night before the theater goes

all digital.

so i'll be looking for other theaters that will still have

 35mm projectors.

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well, they didn't make it,

but will continue on.

maybe they'll come out with something

in the future:

===========

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/advancedfilmcapture/anthrocine-archival-film-digitizing-system/posts

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Harmy said:

The fact that those shots have these colors in the GOUT doesn't mean that they're correct or they look like in the original and since I had no other reference, I was usually aiming for consistency.

we will have an interesting reference for jedi pretty soon

(not what you think).. more news from cinch about that

coming up.

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danny_boy said:

 

Sony 4K(4096 x 2160) 1000es projector(upscales 1080p using propriety Reality Creation algorithm)

Panasonic BDT 100 Blu Ray Player

Sony 7.1 A/V STR-DN1000 surround set up

 

 

very cool, maybe you win the prize!

do you have any pictures?

same to everyone else,

pictures of the setup and room layout

would be nice.

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Bingowings said:

Some of the colars were fixed but some weren't.

i guess they could have fixed the 'colar's,

or the spelling of 'collars', or han's collar..

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all 3 films are up for sale on the

35mm collectors forum.

they say they are all in good shape.

i think they also have the clone wars,

and all 3 prequels too..

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well,

let's see how it goes tonight,

if we get to watch some of the

faded reels of star wars and empire strikes back..

i'm also bringing DVD's of our 35mm version 0

of both star wars (lpp), and empire strikes back

in case we can preview them, or just to check

out.

i've made single layer and dual layer DVD

downconverts.. didn't try AVCHD's yet..

maybe in the future..

will be taking pictures and videos if

it all works out..

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negative1 said:

lpd said:

Hey Neg, will the final product be 24 fps or 23.976?

I've noticed anything I've encoded at 23.976 my  (panasonic) Blu Ray player converts it to 60hz, its only discs at encoded at 24 it seems to play at 24.

we're working at 24fps i think.

i've gotten different test files for it.

 

so i'll make sure... especially for the

DVD version...which might be 23.976..

 

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well, i went back and asked 

cinch for confirmation about it.

and.. the answer is 23.976 fps

for all the work..

there you go..

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if anyone has reels 3-6 of this in mono in ANY CONDITION

or are willing to lend/sell it.. please pm me,

and we'll work something out..

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sorry to hear.

my condolences.

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