muddyknees2000

good to know, thanks Gabe.....I just might call on you when the time comes

I had considered opening this project up to donations, as it has already cost me a fair bit to get everything I need (and I'm nowhere near done yet), in the same way that Adywan accepts donations for his Star Wars edits, but I dont think there'd be enough interest....

TheBoost said:

ben_danger said:

I think prune-face was just another excuse for an action figure really.

 I've always found this to be a cheap shot at Lucas.

Were all the aliens in the cantina just an excuse? Were the ugnauts or Lando's copilot just excuses?

Frankly I wish there were MORE superfluous aliens in ROTJ.

 Yeah, i feel the same way.....seems that these movies always crammed most of their aliens into the same third of the movie, just to show you they exist, then its just humans for the rest of the show. ANH has aliens in its first 1/3, ESB the last 1/3, and Jedi the first 1/3 again, though this one has a few species that trickle into the rest of the film (though i dont think that ewoks should count ;)

Harmy said:

Well, the cave question was obviously answered in the EU - and in the good one (at lest for me) too. It's explained in Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, and the answer is quite cool IMHO but I won't post it, I don't want to stop anyone's imagination by an official explanation. If you want to know, I'm sure you can find out for yourselves :-)

 I've never considered the EU "official" in any way whatsoever. Feel free to post whatever you like, it won`t dull my imagination one bit ;)

i definitely liked that it was a structure with a past....i actually DO like when little details raise questions (especially when they're unanswered), it makes the film universe seem that much grander and real to me. (though i must say Ady's take on it is rather intriguing as well)

I think that the "why is that place so strong in the dark side of the force" question is for more valid than some of the other things that were explained in the PT (ex: Midichlorians, Boba Fett, C3PO), but I never needed to have the cave explained, just thought it could have been one cool direction they could have taken (amongst many)

adywan said:

If you notice, the shape of the structure resembles the hallways in the gantry structure on Cloud City. I always saw this as a prophecy of Luke's impatience  to save his friends and thus face Vader before he was ready, could lead to the dark Side and that is why Luke's face is in the helmet. Like father like son

 See people? This is the kind of stuff the Force was supposed to be about. Midichlorians.....pshhhhh

This is not 100% for this thread, but it ties into ESB enough I figure. The scene of Luke in the cave on Dagobah was always one of those things that I thought we'd see more of in the PT. When Luke goes down there we start to see that theres a structure, a hallway of sorts, and I always liked to think that it was so imbued with dark vibes due to some long past Sith business or some such......perhaps one sith lord betrayed and killed another here in this same spot, and it has always retained some of that negative energy. Yoda could even have picked the planet on purpose, thinking to use the area to train new Jedi.....anyways, just a thought, and another way the PT could have been cooler.

adywan said:

The Prune face costume is another example of how "cheap" ROTJ looked by reusing old props & costumes. Underneath the cape he is wearing the Hoth Trooper vest

 yeah they pretty much phoned in it on almost every aspect of ROTJ. Too bad since it was the end of the trilogy. Would have been nice had they taken it a little more seriously

adywan said:

muddyknees2000 said:

adywan said:

Thanks guys. been out for a meal and a night out with my wife, daughters and their boyfriends so i'm a bit worse for wear at the moment , but had a good night out. Will probably pay for it the next day but who cares . lol

 I'm willing to bet you could use a few days off

I could really use a few months off , but ive got no chance of that if i have any chance to meet the Dec 2011 deadline

 Then be sure to take a nice long one between ESB and ROTJ

adywan said:

Thanks guys. been out for a meal and a night out with my wife, daughters and their boyfriends so i'm a bit worse for wear at the moment , but had a good night out. Will probably pay for it the next day but who cares . lol

 I'm willing to bet you could use a few days off

timdiggerm said:

Watching Returning to Jedi at present, so I just thought I'd make sure that it was stated: New Endor Strike Team sequences should be sure to include the Prune Faces.

 I'm definitely thinking the Endor strike team bits need to be fleshed out. (which is why I had suggested the idea of showing the results of Vader giving his permission for the search for the remaining rebels) Seems to me that theres so much "cute" to be taken out, that theres gonna be more than enough room to put new stuff like this in

What was the purpose of these guys anyways? or were they just another alien species thrown in?

Nothing changes with the plan. Live action menu elements to be filmed this summer or fall

its just too bad the Ewok movies aren't on blu-ray, as theres footage there that could definitely be useful......

I could easily see them having both.

As for where a scene like this might fit into the film, I believe it would go right after Luke surrenders himself to Vader. Vader gives the order for the troops to search out Luke's remaining friends, but we never see anything come of it, the very next scene is Han, Leia and company attacking the bunker. It would add more urgency if on the morning of the attack it was shown that imperial troops were attacking ewok settlements, looking for them. You don't even need any of the main characters, just show troopers raiding different ewok villages. One of them could be on a lake as per the mcquarrie concept art, thereby bringing the seatroopers into play

lol....i dont mind at all....if I'm not mistaken its a custom action figure...I just pasted it into the image to give a rough idea of what a scene with sea troopers might look like. Its not my creation at all. Whoever created it actually used the jetpack from the rocketeer (which just looks all kinds of wrong)

Theres not much in the way of seatrooper imagery out there. As far as I know, this is it

I think I remember seeing some costumes done for a convention a while back, but it definitely would have been nice to see them on film

Remember this piece of concept art?

Its a shame nothing like it was used in the film, as it might have given us a look at an OT seatrooper, or water based assault...

I feel very little sympathy when Ady has included something about the audio track being only a temp one in just about every video description and comment on videos that he has released so far

chyron8472 said:

I watched the "First 16 minutes Sneak Peek" on Youtube posted by MrGanamae, and during the Wampa cave sequence when Luke activates his Lightsaber, the activation sound occurs twice in quick succession. Has this been fixed? If not, is it going to be?

reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjfECy6kW2Y&t=9m35s

 I vote we stop answering this question.

euroherbal said:

Accomodating OT to suit PT is like a blasphemy to me... No way you touch my old static screen!

 I wouldn't worry. Ady has very clearly stated his intention to make the PT more reminicent of the OT and not the other way around

meh

I dont want to have to consult additional material to enjoy a film. If its not enjoyable the way it is, then its a failure.

Music is one thing (and not everyone (myself included) liked the inclusion of it). A trend with lightsaber fights is another.....its still using all the OT footage. PT footage would not splice well with the OT and definitely goes beyond what I think Ady is willing to change. I think the references he's made to the PT have been so light up till now.....but the minute he even touches on it you've got a whole crowd of people begging to see JarJar in the OT. As this is a forum you're all very entitled to make suggestions or voice your ideas, but I thought he made his stance pretty clear just by what he did and didn't do in ANH:R

darth_ender said:

I just cannot think of any other way to do what Adywan has stated elsewhere that he intends to do...

 Just do what I do....accept the prequels as the garbage that they are, and move on. Then you won't care what he does with them. If he manages to take crap and turn it into a masterpiece then you've got a very pleasant surprise waiting for you somewhere down the road, but if not, you won't care. I've been ignoring the prequels for years, and it works great!

I love how categorically Ady shuts down suggestions of adding prequel garbage into the OT.......you'd think that people would have caught on by now