Eh, when the news doesn’t fit my narrative I just lie about it. Life’s more fun when you pretend that someone was arrested for renting Freddie Got Fingered than it is when you accept that he just got arrested by an asshole good-for-nothing cop because he forgot to return it.
“I’m so sorry.”
It took me a really long time to even recognize this as a picture and quote from the prequels.
You’re basically just asking for a conversation in which our opinions aren’t represented. That’s far closer to “ruining meaningful discussion,” whatever that means. This is the appropriate thread for me to voice my views on this subject. It’s not like I’m saying these things in the NFL thread or the Harmy’s Despecialized thread.
When we talk about progressive, what’s the end game? I mean what are we progressing towards exactly and when will we know we’ve gotten there?
We’re progressing towards a more harmonious, peaceful, safe, accepting, fair, and accommodating society. I vote for whoever I deem to be most prone to furthering that.
And once we get there? Will the progressive become the conservative in order to keep it there?
Not any time soon and definitely not in our lifetime.
Well I feel the same way about theists who keep trying to convince me I’m going to hell for picking the wrong deity.
I am not trying to convince you of that. And you don’t have to read the thread. It’s like, if people hate The Last Jedi, they don’t have to contribute to the relevant discussion threads being toxic by continually bashing on the film repeatedly and ruining meaningful discussion about the film. They can voice their opinion, but once it is thoroughly made, dead horses need not be beaten because it drags the conversation down.
No one is doing that.
I am, and this may be surprising given my personality, someone who believes that almost anyone can redeem themselves and realize the error of their ways, no matter how awful they used to be. I think our problem, and I’ll presume to speak for Frink here, is that people who have caused far less harm are not forgiven purely because they didn’t worship the right deity while a Hitler or a Manson could make it to heaven if they just believed in God at the last second. Even if Hitler really felt horrible about what he did and wanted to somehow (as absurd as this hypothetical is) make amends for what he did, he’d still go to hell unless he believed in the specific deity that he needed to.
Isn’t forgiveness really only respectable when you choose to no longer harbor anger towards someone because you are above holding a grudge even if they have wronged you?
I’m sure the intent of this thread was not to create an avenue for atheistic circle-jerking.
Just saying. You guys have beaten the opinion that God doesn’t exist into the ground already. It does not require further expounding upon.
Actually, the thread was created to discuss religion. The thread’s creator considers me a bigot for not putting religious beliefs that I don’t like on a pedestal, but I don’t see how responding to other people’s statements with my opinions is a circle-jerk. I’ve explained the rationale for my belief pretty clearly. Also, my opinion is that regardless of whether God exists or not no one should subscribe to any religion of any kind.
Oh, I also donate monthly to the ACLU. I’m a card-carrying member.
There’s no way I’m racist because I avoid interacting with all people regardless of color, but I do support civil rights. So I’m the best of both worlds.
Sincere question: What do you do to support civil rights?
I vote for candidates that I deem progressive. Other than that, nothing. That’s pretty much all I can do since I never leave my house.
I didn’t read the article. I just know he’s gotten shit for doing basically the exact same thing to Star Wars and other similar movies so I just assumed.
Babylon Bee is a parody news website. Just to be clear.
I know. I didn’t register it earlier.
Freddie Got Fingered is the most embarrassing movie ever. Cops actually arrested somebody for renting it once.
There’s no way I’m racist because I avoid interacting with all people regardless of color, but I do support civil rights. So I’m the best of both worlds.
I don’t trust people’s ability to behave virtuously. And by the way, I explicitly stated that the hypothetical non-racist was no fighting racism, just that he wasn’t specifically racist.
That’s the closest thing to a compliment anyone on this site has ever given me. 😉
Even if they are more likely to behave in eco-friendly ways, it doesn’t matter. It’s like a business owner in the 1960s saying “I would never segregate my customers based on race, but I don’t believe we have a civil rights issue in this country and no action should be taken about it and I’ll vote for politicians that oppose civil rights legislation.” They’re still wrong.
It is wrong for someone to act like a racist in their own life, even more racist than those opposing policy actions, and yet clamor for change by society at large. That appears a pretty clear example of hypocrisy. Whether AGW is real, has all the characteristics you think it has, and requires the policy solutions you think it requires, is a separate and complex debate.
Honestly, as hypocritical as he may be, the hypothetical racist guy calling for civil rights legislation is better in the long run than the guy that may not be racist at all but opposes civil rights legislation.
mfm, racism doesn’t exist anymore (excepting statisticians). Haven’t you heard?
I haven’t heard that, but that’s probably because I tend to avoid exposing myself to the political musings of other people.
Even if they are more likely to behave in eco-friendly ways, it doesn’t matter. It’s like a business owner in the 1960s saying “I would never segregate my customers based on race, but I don’t believe we have a civil rights issue in this country and no action should be taken about it and I’ll vote for politicians that oppose civil rights legislation.” They’re still wrong.
It is wrong for someone to act like a racist in their own life, even more racist than those opposing policy actions, and yet clamor for change by society at large. That appears a pretty clear example of hypocrisy. Whether AGW is real, has all the characteristics you think it has, and requires the policy solutions you think it requires, is a separate and complex debate.
Honestly, as hypocritical as he may be, the hypothetical racist guy calling for civil rights legislation is better in the long run than the guy that may not be racist at all but opposes civil rights legislation.
I disagree. And that’s not to say I oppose civil rights legislation.
I don’t see how you could disagree with that, especially seeing as how my example was focusing on civil rights in the 1960s, meaning the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. If a racist supports those, then he’s less damaging to our society in the long run then the kindhearted soul who opposes them.
Every day of this existence is a new incarnation of hell.
EDIT: Wait, this isn’t the religion thread.
Exactly. I’ve never personally seen Donald Trump so for all I know, he’s not real. That’s why I voted for him.
Even if they are more likely to behave in eco-friendly ways, it doesn’t matter. It’s like a business owner in the 1960s saying “I would never segregate my customers based on race, but I don’t believe we have a civil rights issue in this country and no action should be taken about it and I’ll vote for politicians that oppose civil rights legislation.” They’re still wrong.
It is wrong for someone to act like a racist in their own life, even more racist than those opposing policy actions, and yet clamor for change by society at large. That appears a pretty clear example of hypocrisy. Whether AGW is real, has all the characteristics you think it has, and requires the policy solutions you think it requires, is a separate and complex debate.
Honestly, as hypocritical as he may be, the hypothetical racist guy calling for civil rights legislation is better in the long run than the guy that may not be racist at all but opposes civil rights legislation.
Yeah, sorry. That post was worse than Batman Forever.
I also haven’t slept well in recent memory so I’m not on my top game these days.
I didn’t read the article. I just know he’s gotten shit for doing basically the exact same thing to Star Wars and other similar movies so I just assumed.
I think it’s shitty to accept something so obviously objectionable. If we had a dictator that was executing or torturing people for thought crimes and only spared those that worshiped him, I’d admire people that, even though they knew this tyrant could destroy them, chose to not bow before him. So, to me, even if this is the truth it’s still shitty to accept it as anything other than repugnant.
Hmmm…you believe different than I do? Ok, you’re going to be tortured forever after you die.
Oh, and that other guy who led a terrible life, raped, robbed, murdered, kicked puppies and pushed down old ladies, but accepted Jesus as his savior right at the end? He’s a better person than you are.
Nah, doesn’t seem like a shitty belief system at all.
Hey, Frink let’s be fair. He isn’t better than you, he just believed in the right god and therefore doesn’t have to be punished the way you will be.
