moviefreakedmind

Warbler said:

From the “Going away? Post so here!” Thread.

Possessed said:

Probably realized a ton of the stuff they do outright contradicted the scripture that already existed so they had to make their own.

You really shouldn’t talk about something of which you really have no knowledge of the history of how it came to be.

He’s right, though. Evangelical Christianity, Catholicism, and Mormonism are essentially three different religions. Honestly, Islam has more in common with biblical Christianity than Mormonism does. They’re three very different ideologies. I could make a huge list of all the biblical verses and things that the Catholic church violates, but since no one will be interested by that I won’t waste my time.

And what history of Catholicism are you so familiar with that makes you more of an authority than he is?

I liked it but I didn’t have the Gamecube version, so I didn’t get as into it. If I go back I’ll need to order a GC copy.

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I love the Zelda games. I replay those from time to time.

So what do you think about them turning The Legend of Zelda into an Assassin’s Creed/Shadow of Mordor style sandbox? Ruining the franchise, or going back to its roots?

I haven’t beaten a Zelda game since Windwaker and haven’t played one since Twilight Princess.

JEDIT: For the record, my opinion is:

chyron8472 said:

chyron8472 said:

Okay, I’ve played plenty of Breath of the Wild by now and…wait for it… I can’t say it’s my favorite Zelda game.

It’s sooo different from the other games. I know people who complain about previous 3D Zeldas being too formulaic, but because this Zelda game so different in style, scope, and difficulty, et al., that comparing Breath of the Wild to Twilight Princess or Wind Waker is almost completely unfair. It’s almost a completely different genre of game.

I’ve been playing this game for several dozen hours now. I don’t recall how many. So much so that I’m addicted to it.

I love this game. It’s fantastic. But the catch is I’ve played several other open world games before, and so certain aspects feel derivative. Yes, the towers in BOTW are better than those in Assassin’s Creed. Yes, the open world action swordplay is better than in Shadow of Mordor. Yes, this game takes solid gamplay mechanics, improves them, adds fantastic story and dialogue, and rolls them into one amazing experience. But sometimes I’m playing the game and I feel like I’ve done these things in other games, even though this does it better.

This is in contrast to other Zelda games, where no one else does it quite like Zelda. If any other game copies Zelda gameplay, it’s them copying it–not it copying them. It’s as though Zelda basically wrote the book on action adventure games. But Breath of the Wild is largely consolidating and improving on existing mechanics from other properties. There are movies that I love that do this–like Star Wars. I love Star Wars. But I haven’t seen the films and serials from which it was derived, and so I don’t compare it to them.

So that’s why I’m perplexed about where Breath of the Wild sits on my personal list of favorite Zelda games. It’s wonderful, but it’s derivative; while the other 3D games are original but formulaic. And I don’t mind the formula because it just works.

Possessed said:

This is the wrong thread for this, but I haven’t been able to force myself to play breath of the wild for more than an hour or so total. I don’t really like open world games. I have to have a clear objective. I don’t even really do the side quests in the other games and this game is like all side quest.

I don’t have it, but I agree with you. I like open world stuff, but I need to know where to go and the like. Games like GTA are great because it’s always clear what you are supposed to do next to progress the game.

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

My problem is that another thing that I kind of liked back in the day, first-person shooters in a historical setting, has been ruined.

Historical setting =! historical accuracy. If you like historically accurate shooters, play those shooters and not the ones that are not.

I’ve played them many times. I wanted one that takes advantage of modern technology but it looks like that won’t happen because stupid people have ruined it just like they’ve ruined everything else. World at War was, to my knowledge, the last game to actually take the setting seriously. The campaign in that one was beautifully done.

I love the Zelda games. I replay those from time to time.

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

Respawning is historically inaccurate.

I don’t play online multiplayer. In the games I’m talking about you’d have to just restart the level when you got killed. I know that games aren’t reality, but I prefer them to at least make an honest attempt at resembling the historical period that they’re attempting to portray. If they aren’t going to try, then make a game that doesn’t need to be historically accurate, like a Wolfenstein.

That’s silly. Games are silly. Who cares. Don’t play it if it bothers you so much.

I won’t. And games aren’t silly. There have been many games that have changed my life for the better. I’m annoyed because if it weren’t a dumb Rambo-style pile of shit with revisionist history nonsense that makes the game not even resemble the time period it’s set in, then I would probably buy it. I liked those old shooters, and now they all suck. That annoys me.

I don’t like enough things to be able to just cavalierly discard things that I like. When things that I enjoy get fucked with, I get upset.

Just so you all know, I got equally mad when they ruined the James Bond video games and turned them into boring, crappy Bourne Identity ripoffs.

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

All it shows is a total ignorance of history and it’s done to appeal to unintelligent people that are won over by such things.

So Oklahoma! is offensive because people never thought Oklahoma was so wonderful that they would break out into song and dance about it?

It’s a totally different art form.

I’m just saying that storytelling doesn’t have to be true-to-history. If people are stupid enough to cite the fiction as fact, that’s on the stupid people for not doing their research, not the writers of the fiction. It’s not akin to peddling fake news that dupe the gullible, as Fox News does, since the game never claims to be an accurate depiction.

Actually they do. They’re all about “war like never before” and other bullshit marketing gimmicks. And stop with this “storytelling” bullshit. This is corporate drivel and their focus groups have told them that women with cybernetic arms fighting in WWII would bring in more customers.

I understand that Gladiator and The Patriot are largely popcorn movies. And Apollo 13 has obvious inaccuracies if you know anything about NASA’s standard procedures. If people use these films as sources to cite actual events, that’s on them for being stupid.

I can forgive minor deviations. The overall setting was still accurate though. For example, in Forrest Gump the Ford assassination attempt is portrayed as having involved multiple gunshots instead of one. I can forgive that inaccuracy. If the film had said that Ford was stabbed by a Soviet Union spy, then that would be a problem for me. I’ve never seen Gladiator and I don’t even like the Patriot so I don’t know what to say there. I don’t know what you’re getting at with people citing things as actual events. I don’t give a fuck what people cite. (I do hate people, after all.) My problem is that another thing that I kind of liked back in the day, first-person shooters in a historical setting, has been ruined. That’s my problem.

DominicCobb said:

Respawning is historically inaccurate.

I don’t play online multiplayer. In the games I’m talking about you’d have to just restart the level when you got killed. I know that games aren’t reality, but I prefer them to at least make an honest attempt at resembling the historical period that they’re attempting to portray. If they aren’t going to try, then make a game that doesn’t need to be historically accurate, like a Wolfenstein.

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Can’t find the Video Game thread

In the Media subcategory

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Video-Game-Thread/id/1456

moviefreakedmind said:

here’s some more video game PC revisionist history bullshit.

Battlefield is supposed to be historically accurate?

I don’t know about Battlefield, but older WW2 games, the kind I played as a youth in order to distract myself from how much everything sucked, paid great attention to historical accuracy. Everything looked and felt like WWII, including, by the way, women and black soldiers fighting in settings where they actually fought. In an old Medal of Honor there were black soldiers in the Battle of the Bulge levels because the military was desegregated for that battle. And women were Russian snipers and were in the French resistance. I don’t get the need to lie about history and I hate fake history. I’m a big history buff.

Yes, women were in the military but they were not in roles designated for combat. But again, it’s a video game, and it doesn’t have to reflect historical accuracy.

It should. I find revisionist history to be quite sickening.

But I don’t think COD or BF should have to be confined by “that didn’t actually happen”. Yes, portraying the Nazis as open to racial diversity is completely ignorant of the core ideology of the Nazi Party itself. But having women, bionic or otherwise, in a video game designed to entertain the modern market, doesn’t really have anything to do with rewriting the past for some liberalist agenda.

It’s not a liberalist agenda, it’s a corporatist agenda and all it shows is that the modern market is stupid, as are the people making the games. I hate bad “art” and I consider video games an art and if they want some weird ahistorical game in the WWII setting then they should make a Wolfenstein type game, not a WWII game. Or, better yet, just make it actually historically believable. Focus it on a woman in the french resistance, or a Soviet woman sniper, or a black unit in the US army. Of course they would never be brave enough to have a game where the entire unit is black, that’d be way to much for the corporate suits to greenlight so they’ll settle for sugarcoating history and putting a token black guy in the background. I’m sick of being expected to pat the corporate suits on the back for some BS PC quota that they filled. I hate it, I hate them. There’s nothing shocking here. 99% of all things and all people are full of shit, so this is just one of many stupid cultural things for me to complain about.

It’s just a story told to entertain. One might as well complain that the real John Adams didn’t actually have a telepathic connection to his wife as portrayed in the film/play 1776… or complain that the actual Declaration of Independence shouldn’t be depicted as physically signed, pen to paper, by all the delegates on July 4th, since the reality is that it actually wasn’t.

Those are very specific things that are done for dramatic developments in those stories. Better examples would be portraying the Declaration as having been signed by people with bionic arms or by American Indians. All it shows is a total ignorance of history and it’s done to appeal to unintelligent people that are won over by such things. It’s also, ironically, kind of offensive. Portraying America as a place of racial harmony back then is an insult to the people that overcame the racist bullshit back then and today. Portraying Nazi Germany as a place of racial harmony is sickening and downright disturbing.

RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Warbler said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Warbler said:

Okay, I’ve decided to return and see how things go.

HI RicOlie_2!

btw, did you see moviefreakedmind’s new avatar? What do you think of it?

Hi!

I saw his avatar, but wasn’t really sure what it was till now. Actually, I’m still not entirely sure what it’s supposed to be depicting.

It is a pic of Sinead O Connor when she tore apart the pic of Pope John Paul II on Saturday Night Live.

Ah. It makes me sad more than anything, that people would think that way about such a holy pope and about the Church. I wasn’t familiar with that particular incident on SNL, so I looked it up and watched part of an interview with Sinéad. What a deluded human being. It’s terrible that she had to suffer abuse as a child, though. It sounds like that was the main source of her attitude towards the Church.

It makes me sad more than anything that that man is viewed a “such a holy pope.” His complicity in the mass child rape and the Church’s cover-up of the mass child rape makes him an accessory at the absolute best, and likely far, far worse. I’d call his defenders the deluded human beings. Before anyone claims I’m being mean or “bigoted” for the use of the word deluded, I’d like to point out that I, since I hold the same position as Sinéad, was called deluded first. This isn’t the thread for such statements so I won’t state how I really feel about John Paul II, but since I’m kind of being implicated in this exchange I felt the need to explain my side. Interestingly, the reason I have this picture is because I was asked to change my old avatar since it made it look like I was a banned user, and for reasons I don’t quite remember anymore I wanted an anti-establishment, fight-the-power image as my avatar so I chose Sinéad.

I don’t want to completely derail this thread, so I’ll keep my responses relatively brief:

I suspect JP II either naïvely gave guilty priests the benefit of the doubt or was simply ignorant of the extent of their wrongdoings. “Mass child rape” is certainly not a fitting expression for atrocities committed by 1% of priests, but I certainly agree that the pope should have done more. I don’t think he was perfect by any means.

Maybe he shouldn’t be considered “such a holy pope” then. Definitely not the Holy Father. I also don’t buy the 1% of priests estimate.

By referring to Sinéad as deluded, I was referring primarily to her claim that child abuse is at the root of all the world’s problems, and her belief that she is Catholic despite rejecting the Catholic Church outright. I get the impression that you’re intelligent enough not to espouse those positions.

I don’t espouse those positions. I think everything should reject the Catholic Church and all other churches outright.

RicOlie_2 said:

Yup. Sin in general is disgusting, but pedophilic abuse of children is pretty close to the top of the list. The fact that so many priests have exploited the trust people have for them is simply horrific, as most priests would agree. Fortunately for its credibility, the Church has never claimed to not be full of hypocrites and sinners, because being Christian doesn’t seem to affect the way some people behave.

Actually, sin in general isn’t that disgusting. The Church does indeed put itself on a moral pedestal.

RicOlie_2 said:

DominicCobb said:

If I remember correctly, the estimate was 6% of priests.

I did a bit more research on it, and it looks like different numbers come from different countries. In Australia, it’s a disgusting 7%. In the US, it’s about 4%. In most countries, though, it’s significantly lower, as far as I can tell, so 1% might not be that far off globally. I can’t find any global statistics to back that up though. By way of anecdotal evidence, however, I think there have been only a handful of cases across western Canada, meaning that significantly less than 1% of priests here are guilty of abuse (in Eastern Canada, the problem is far more severe, unfortunately).

I found this article interesting: http://www.newsweek.com/priests-commit-no-more-abuse-other-males-70625 (the Washington Post also supports that claim).

It isn’t about percentages necessarily, it’s about the coverups and the allowing the rapists to abuse more children rather than turn them in. If I did that, then surely I’d be labelled a criminal and a rape-enabler, but if I claim to be God’s representative on earth, then I’m pardoned? Fascinating. Even the Penn State football coach got totally denounced when it was revealed that he did something similar, and football coaches are essentially gods in the US.

The reason that bastard JP II was so evil is because he allowed for the child-raping priests and the men that covered them up to simply be moved to other districts and parishes rather than turning them into the authorities. I hate John Paul II and I think he’s one of the most evil men ever to have received as much praise and worship as he did.

I hated that motherfucker. And why hasn’t the guy playing gotten the bigger wallets yet?

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Can’t find the Video Game thread

In the Media subcategory

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Video-Game-Thread/id/1456

moviefreakedmind said:

here’s some more video game PC revisionist history bullshit.

Battlefield is supposed to be historically accurate?

I don’t know about Battlefield, but older WW2 games, the kind I played as a youth in order to distract myself from how much everything sucked, paid great attention to historical accuracy. Everything looked and felt like WWII, including, by the way, women and black soldiers fighting in settings where they actually fought. In an old Medal of Honor there were black soldiers in the Battle of the Bulge levels because the military was desegregated for that battle. And women were Russian snipers and were in the French resistance. I don’t get the need to lie about history and I hate fake history. I’m a big history buff.

Yes, women were in the military but they were not in roles designated for combat. But again, it’s a video game, and it doesn’t have to reflect historical accuracy.

It should. I find revisionist history to be quite sickening. Call of Duty WWII took it way too far and decided to portray Nazi Germany as a place tolerant of racial diversity. That’s sickening and dangerous to me. It’s a great example of how stupid other people are. The people that would be offended by there not being black soldiers in the German army are stupid, and the people that think women with robot metal arms fought in WWII are also stupid. I just feel like a total alien on this planet.

Christ on a cross. . .

It saddens you that I’m not won over by a pretty robe and a lavish palace?

I was hoping it’d be a 0-0 tie where both teams lost.

Oh yeah that’s right. Right-wing authoritarian judges are really important.

They should’ve condemned him during the election. The fascist policies of the Trump administration were clear campaign promises.

RicOlie_2 said:

Warbler said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Warbler said:

Okay, I’ve decided to return and see how things go.

HI RicOlie_2!

btw, did you see moviefreakedmind’s new avatar? What do you think of it?

Hi!

I saw his avatar, but wasn’t really sure what it was till now. Actually, I’m still not entirely sure what it’s supposed to be depicting.

It is a pic of Sinead O Connor when she tore apart the pic of Pope John Paul II on Saturday Night Live.

Ah. It makes me sad more than anything, that people would think that way about such a holy pope and about the Church. I wasn’t familiar with that particular incident on SNL, so I looked it up and watched part of an interview with Sinéad. What a deluded human being. It’s terrible that she had to suffer abuse as a child, though. It sounds like that was the main source of her attitude towards the Church.

It makes me sad more than anything that that man is viewed a “such a holy pope.” His complicity in the mass child rape and the Church’s cover-up of the mass child rape makes him an accessory at the absolute best, and likely far, far worse. I’d call his defenders the deluded human beings. Before anyone claims I’m being mean or “bigoted” for the use of the word deluded, I’d like to point out that I, since I hold the same position as Sinéad, was called deluded first. This isn’t the thread for such statements so I won’t state how I really feel about John Paul II, but since I’m kind of being implicated in this exchange I felt the need to explain my side. Interestingly, the reason I have this picture is because I was asked to change my old avatar since it made it look like I was a banned user, and for reasons I don’t quite remember anymore I wanted an anti-establishment, fight-the-power image as my avatar so I chose Sinéad.

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

yhwx said:

He’ll soon be back. And in greater numbers.

That’ll get him banned.

As long as he walks on a single file line, he’ll be alright.

That’s when I carried him.

I know this was made a while ago, but I only saw it as I was leaving and haven’t had the chance to respond this post of Frink’s.

Frink I am pretty sure that this was an attempted as making light of the fact that I am Christian and I am sure you were referencing this poem:

FOOTPRINTS IN THE SAND:

One night I dreamed a dream.
As I was walking along the beach with my Lord.
Across the dark sky flashed scenes from my life.
For each scene, I noticed two sets of footprints in the sand,
One belonging to me and one to my Lord.

After the last scene of my life flashed before me,
I looked back at the footprints in the sand.
I noticed that at many times along the path of my life,
especially at the very lowest and saddest times,
there was only one set of footprints.

This really troubled me, so I asked the Lord about it.
“Lord, you said once I decided to follow you,
You’d walk with me all the way.
But I noticed that during the saddest and most troublesome times of my life,
there was only one set of footprints.
I don’t understand why, when I needed You the most, You would leave me.”

He whispered, “My precious child, I love you and will never leave you
Never, ever, during your trials and testings.
When you saw only one set of footprints,
It was then that I carried you.”

I think you were making light of that poem too. This deeply offends me. That poem helped me get through my father’s last month. I was constantly praying “God, carry me through this”. If I am wrong in my interpretation of your post, I apologize. But if I am right, that was a low thing to do. I don’t think I am unreasonable in asking for an apology(if my interpretation was right).

This blows my fucking mind.

RicOlie_2 said:

(I can’t believe you thought I swore! I meant “why the frink”!)

That’s not what you fuckin’ meant.

DominicCobb said:

Goonies is great though

The Goonies ‘R’ Good Enough.

DominicCobb said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

My favorite sex position is quantum superposition.

My least favourite sex position is when you’re in the awkward position of talking to a transsexual and accidentally refer to straight people as “normal.”

Lot to unpack here.

It would be pretty awkward.

Can’t find the Video Game thread so I’ll put it here, but here’s some more video game PC revisionist history bullshit. The articles I found, including this one, were all written by historically illiterate fools so you’ll have to read through the idiocy. I guess that’s not surprising, though, since 99% of the motherfuckers on this shithole planet are historically illiterate fools.

https://innotechtoday.com/battlefield-5/