I think it was just hyperbole.
Pretty much everything he says is hyperbolic, so it’s near impossible to tell when he’s serious about it and when he isn’t.
That’s just how I talk.
no one likes her, yet she has a following.
Contradictory.
I believe that was his intention.
Yes. It’s like how no one likes Dane Cook, yet he has a following.
Whatever Chris Rock thinks of her, I have yet to meet someone in person (and just now online) that actually enjoys Leslie Jones’ comedy. She’s somewhat similar to Dane Cook – who, to be fair, is probably much worse than her – in the sense that no one likes her, yet she has a following.
There will be no clown dunking because Neglify wants to go fishing.
Or something.
I thought that was a Brokeback Mountain reference.
sigh
I’m not sure if you quite got the reference.
I wouldn’t call Leslie Jones one of the best and freshest comics today.
A lot of people disagree with you.
This is the first I’m hearing of them.
EDIT: Also, whoever edited that trailer either had a grudge against Sony, or was a total idiot if he thought that it would be appealing to anyone. Regardless of whatever came out in the end, that trailer was awful.
No one whose been on the forum for barely two months should have almost 2500 posts.
If he has a job I would be surprised he hasn’t been terminated due to his addiction.
What blows my mind is that he responds to almost every single post, no matter what time of day or night. I think addiction is the proper word. The only reason I post so much now is that I have little to do when I’m actually at work.
What good is something if you can’t remember it?
EDIT: My main problem with this is that I’d never be able to finish a book, unless I read the whole thing in 24 hours.
Doing it way wrong.
No doubt Hitler used religion – but keep in mind, a twisted and vague version of Christianity – to gain favor, but he persecuted Christians (meaning devout fundamentalists who rejected his fascist “religion”) to a certain degree too. That quote was stated by him in 1941 in private when amongst his Nazi cronies. I’d wager that it’s more revealing of his personal religious identity than his big speeches. That doesn’t make him an atheist, but it doesn’t make him a Christian in a traditional sense. I suspect that he planned on creating his own semi-“Christian” religion. Hell, the Nazis even cooked up their own version of Jesus who they turned into an anti-semite. I think both Catholic and Lutheran (the two main religions in Germany) hold some blame due to their nonstop mistreatment of the jews over the centuries, which no-doubt caused the anti-semitism necessary for Hitler to scapegoat the entire Jewish race.
She’s going to play General MacArthur in Paul Feig’s upcoming film based on the Korean War.
EDIT: I hear she’s very opinionated on the subject.
I disagree, I’ve never seen an atheist lobbying about the evils of Buddhism. They focus on Islam and Christianity. Islam because it inspires terrorism, and contributes to the oppression of women and gays. Christianity because of the few Christian politicians who try to incorporate their religion into politics. Tennessee tried to get the Bible to be the official state book, but luckily the governor vetoed it. That’s the kind of thing that atheists fight against.
My problem with a lot of American atheist activists (I can’t speak for ender) is that they fail to see the obvious contrast between the problems we’re seeing within Islam relative to Christianity. As scary as Tennessee making the Bible the official state book is, it pales in comparison to your previous sentence. That’s not to say that they don’t have a point on that issue, but a lot of atheists not only ignore the problems within Islam, but actively defend Islam. That’s what blows my mind.
I agree. I think a lot of atheists are afraid to criticize Islam because they don’t want to be called racist (which is predicated on the idea that all Muslims are Middle Eastern, which is not true) or any other slanderous names. I think that if any religion needs criticism, it’s Islam.
Couldn’t agree more. An ideology that’ll kill me, or put my partner in a burka is not something I’ll go easy on. Muslims that are opposed to those aspects of Islam are on my side, but those who aren’t need to have their beliefs exposed for what they are.
American Pie is a perfect example of a film that, on paper, I would hate. That being said, I laughed all the way through. I had been up for days though, so part of my hysterical laughter may have been caused by that, among other things. Either way, it made low-brow jokes work for me.
I disagree, I’ve never seen an atheist lobbying about the evils of Buddhism. They focus on Islam and Christianity. Islam because it inspires terrorism, and contributes to the oppression of women and gays. Christianity because of the few Christian politicians who try to incorporate their religion into politics. Tennessee tried to get the Bible to be the official state book, but luckily the governor vetoed it. That’s the kind of thing that atheists fight against.
My problem with a lot of American atheist activists (I can’t speak for ender) is that they fail to see the obvious contrast between the problems we’re seeing within Islam relative to Christianity. As scary as Tennessee making the Bible the official state book is, it pales in comparison to your previous sentence. That’s not to say that they don’t have a point on that issue, but a lot of atheists not only ignore the problems within Islam, but actively defend Islam. That’s what blows my mind.
I did not necessarily say that they should be called ‘evil’ or any other similar phrasing. I think it’s only OK to judge them, not name call them. Name calling is a subset of judging.
Name-calling aside, that’s still the outcome. Yes, people 200 years ago were racist. People 50 years ago were homophobic. You can’t understand history if you’re trying to apply today’s societal context to a time when it was nonexistent.
Then how shall we judge progress?
Look at where we are now, and where we were then.
I wouldn’t call Leslie Jones one of the best and freshest comics today.
I did not necessarily say that they should be called ‘evil’ or any other similar phrasing. I think it’s only OK to judge them, not name call them. Name calling is a subset of judging.
Name-calling aside, that’s still the outcome. Yes, people 200 years ago were racist. People 50 years ago were homophobic. You can’t understand history if you’re trying to apply today’s societal context to a time when it was nonexistent.
yhwx said:
I think it’s OK to judge the actions of a previous generation based on our modern yardstick. Isn’t that the whole point of history?
Every historian (worth a damn) would disagree with you. Martin Luther King, Jr. (by your standards) was a wretched, philandering, transphobic bigot. That’s the result of your distortion of history by applying today’s morality to past generations.
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I’m just saying that I believe the Bible is the word of God as conveyed by mortals, and thus may be subject to human error.
I’m not sure that you got my T. Rex reference, but it’s all good, get it on (bang a gong). In all seriousness though, how can the Bible be the word of God if it’s corrupted by mortals? You have no idea what is and isn’t properly preserved.
Did God write the Bible with his own hands?
No, mortals did. I believe it to be true, but I also believe it to be the work of his flawed creations. Clearly you cannot believe it to be literal and flawless in every way.
I didn’t say I did, although at times I have, but that position makes much more sense to me than to assume that some portions (who knows which?) are inaccurate. For all we know it could be the divinity of Christ, the very foundation of the religion.
There will be no clown dunking because Neglify wants to go fishing.
Or something.
I thought that was a Brokeback Mountain reference.
What is your view of Joseph Smith? Ric Olie 2 said that he isn’t elevated above the rest of mankind in the Mormon faith. From what I know and from who I know this is definitely not the case, but I’m curious how you view him.
The foolishness was going well until he “fixed” it.
As per usual.
I think you’re confusing empowerment and equality.
JEDIT: Dom already said it but you did it anyway.
Whatever, I wasn’t aware that women were executed in America for making bad jokes. I’m just pointing out the startling silence on real issues of gender inequality.