You have to watch Halloween II at least seven or eight times before it starts growing on you. It definitely is sad that it wasn’t better because it had the rare opportunity to retain its entire original cast and crew. I know Carpenter didn’t direct, but if there’s one thing about the two movies that is equally great in both is the cinematography and look of the films. Beautiful.
Sure, but I think that the early 80s had some good stuff. After Lick It Up things went down, but I still love them.
Nope, you’re not allowed to like people if they have nutty politics.
Beth - KISS
I don’t care what any critic may or may not say about KISS, they’re great. I love every single song, every album, every concert!
Ted Nugent should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I know that more deserving rock bands like NWA needed to be inducted, but after them Nugent should’ve been honored.
How do you know that I won’t get depressed over that insult?
I thought Ben Affleck was pretty great in Gigli.
That’s one of my favorite films. I think that his previous role in Daredevil really sold the execs over at DC Comics though. Having someone with experience in the superhero genre is important to consider when casting.
More people like you should have radio stations!
I personally prefer hearing Blinded by the Light every two hours 😉
They’re releasing another Blair Witch movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=girSv9UH_V8
Ostensibly, it’s a sequel, but it’s really just a remake of the original, only more EXTREME!!!
Yep, I’m indeed adding this movie to my anti-watchlist.
Making Blair Witch extreme is the exact opposite of the whole point of the original.
or at the very beginning of Ocarina of Time when you can tel the Deku Tree you don’t want to help it and you have to start the game over to continue.
Really? I’ve never done that so I just figured you could talk to it again and start over.
The LoC request from Disney (which was first mentioned back in December IIRC) and Verta meeting with the suits are two huge signs that something is happening behind the scenes.
Yes, quite old news. It’s a sad state of affairs when a production studio needs to rely on the government to obtain the original cut of it’s own film. Could’ve been a last-ditch effort to try to salvage something in-house before Verta came along and offered the meetings early this year.
Maybe, it’s also possible though that they just want to get a handle on all of their materials. Disney has a pretty strict system for keeping track of their films.
The very fact that they’re entertaining the possibility enough to meet him is encouraging in my book. The VIDIOT man on Hoffman’s forum said that Disney requested a digital copy of the first film from the Library of Congress.
You mentioned Acts earlier, and I’d like to add that there were no incidences in the Bible that depict the apostles speaking in tongues that they couldn’t comprehend.
EDIT: I’ve also heard it argued that the gift of tongues was only one that people had as a sign to unbelievers in the time before the completion of the scriptural writings.
EDIT PART 2, EDIT HARDER: Also, nowhere in the Bible is the concept of a “spirit language” encouraged or discussed.
EDIT 3, EDIT WITH A VENGEANCE: I guess my main question is what benefit could there possibly be to not understanding what you’re saying? In theory, you could be saying something really awful without your knowledge?
From the “Share your good news!” thread
I have always believed that the speaking in tongues thing during Pentecost was them merely speaking in other languages that they did not previously learn to speak. I mean languages spoke in other countries. I think MFM is referring to a kind of tongues that isn’t an actual known language.
I’m referring to people who pray in a gibberish language.
For clarification, this is exactly what I’m thinking of:
That person is speaking a non English language in prayer. In what way is that strictly gibberish?
She’s muttering things that are not words.
Christians who think speaking in tongues is weird and gibberish are a really big problem in the Church community.
I don’t know to what extant you could call me a Christian (although maybe I still am, who knows?), but yes, even in my most devout times I was against this because no one knows what it means. I had much more harsh words for it when I was real crazily into the whole Bible thing, but that lady doesn’t know what she’s saying in the video. She’s babbling. Why not pray in a real language and actually use words?
Does she have to understand what she is saying? Can you give proof that she is not speaking real words? Non-English does not equal “not a real language”. She’s exercising faith. She is praying in a language she alone does not know because the Holy Ghost is empowering her to do so. Utilizing the Lord’s gifts righteously is a form of praise and worship.
Non-English doesn’t equal “not a real language”, but non-any-existing-language does. Why would the Holy Ghost put a language that you can’t comprehend into you? How is it a prayer if you don’t know what you’re saying?
Also, regarding your statement about 1 Corinthians, I don’t think it is condemning the use of a gift from God. Paul says to strive and hope for greater gifts than that, because it’s span of use for reaching others is limited. Even then, sometimes God speaks directly to groups of believers through a gift of tongues.
Just this past week at camp it happened. Someone received a word from God in other tongues and shouted it out to everyone there. Then, as is necessary, another student was gifted with the ability to interpret meaning, and he relayed God’s words to the rest of us.
What denomination is this? Pentecostal?
I think it’s technically Pentecostal. It’s the Assemblies Of God, but I’m not sure if I can really speak for the everyone who’s a part of it.
That’s what I thought. I’ve been weary of that business since I was a kid. The glossolalia, which is a combination of babbling tongues and euphoric convulsions that about scarred me for life.
Here on Earth, it’s not just about holding your faith close and not letting it out for fear of offending. It’s about allowing as many people as possible to make the right choice. To be Jesus’ witnesses to the ends of the Earth.
To do what Jesus did, and greater things than that, through the hand of God.
Greater things than Jesus Christ himself did?
Dek Rollins said:
And I honestly don’t know what language I’m speaking when I do it.Then how do you know what you’re saying?
I don’t, specifically. I have faith, and I focus on what ever it is that I need to. If I’m just praising God, I’ll focus directly on that and let God empower me. If I’m praying over someone’s injury, I’ll specify in prayer, and focus on that, and on God’s power and mercy.
Shouldn’t you know what you’re saying to God? For all you know you could be blaspheming him.
1 Cor. 14
13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
17 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
At best, Paul the Apostle was saying that tongues is acceptable in private if you have understanding, yet only amongst others with interpreters present also. Definitely not something to be trifled with though. At least that’s my interpretation of it. I never believed that all of these gifts are in effect anymore. I was of the school of thought that these miracles were worked during this time, but once the narrative was complete, they ceased. I think it actually said in 1 Cor. 13 that tongues will cease, yet charity will never fail.
Let’s continue . . .
I think it’s worth noting how much a lot of the more pessimistic comments in threads like these tend to overestimate the PT’s footprint among mainstream audiences. Everyone I know who doesn’t identify as a major Star Wars fan gives them no thought whatsoever. A lot of people who weren’t the right age when they were coming out haven’t even seen them, and a large percentage of the folks who did see them as they were released haven’t seen them since.
This 100%. People don’t react to them with animosity, but a lot of people simply do not care about them. A lot of people haven’t even seen them. Now that they’re old news and the ST really has nothing to do with them, there’s no reason for anyone to go back and watch them anyway.
Packaging TFA with the PT just because they’re the only ones ready go in 3D seems like a really odd choice. Bill Hunt’s never been one to post bogus rumors but I seriously have my doubts about this one.
Hermit’s post about a source inside LFL is encouraging, assuming the source actually knew this info for certain. Finding out that they were indeed planning on getting the true OT out there before TFA just sets the speculation wheels in motion. Maybe they wanted to keep a hundred percent of the attention on TFA?
I occasionally check the Steve Hoffman Forums purely for information on this subject, and Hermit has been posting the same thing for a long time. I don’t doubt that he thinks that whoever his source is is reliable. Someone else also once stated that they were going to release them in 2015 but had problems with ANH and were instead going to wait until 2017. Who knows what’s true though?
I have always believed that the speaking in tongues thing during Pentecost was them merely speaking in other languages that they did not previously learn to speak. I mean languages spoke in other countries. I think MFM is referring to a kind of tongues that isn’t an actual known language.
I’m referring to people who pray in a gibberish language.
For clarification, this is exactly what I’m thinking of:
That person is speaking a non English language in prayer. In what way is that strictly gibberish?
She’s muttering things that are not words.
Christians who think speaking in tongues is weird and gibberish are a really big problem in the Church community.
I don’t know to what extant you could call me a Christian (although maybe I still am, who knows?), but yes, even in my most devout times I was against this because no one knows what it means. I had much more harsh words for it when I was real crazily into the whole Bible thing, but that lady doesn’t know what she’s saying in the video. She’s babbling. Why not pray in a real language and actually use words?
Also, regarding your statement about 1 Corinthians, I don’t think it is condemning the use of a gift from God. Paul says to strive and hope for greater gifts than that, because it’s span of use for reaching others is limited. Even then, sometimes God speaks directly to groups of believers through a gift of tongues.
Just this past week at camp it happened. Someone received a word from God in other tongues and shouted it out to everyone there. Then, as is necessary, another student was gifted with the ability to interpret meaning, and he relayed God’s words to the rest of us.
What denomination is this? Pentecostal?
Dek Rollins said:
And I honestly don’t know what language I’m speaking when I do it.
Then how do you know what you’re saying?
Perhaps this is better suited in the religion thread.
Tyrphanax said:
For what it’s worth, I don’t understand the attractiveness of the abuse of substances either. I can’t stand being drunk.People get dependent on them.
Would it be impolite to post a Ric Olie image in this thread?
I was just saying that most addicts don’t do it simply because it’s fun.
I have always believed that the speaking in tongues thing during Pentecost was them merely speaking in other languages that they did not previously learn to speak. I mean languages spoke in other countries. I think MFM is referring to a kind of tongues that isn’t an actual known language.
I’m referring to people who pray in a gibberish language.
For clarification, this is exactly what I’m thinking of:
Hey, if, in the 21st Century, Christians want to believe they can speak in tongues, despite that they’re own bible says (or at least implies) that they can’t and definitely says they shouldn’t, that’s their business.
Where does it say (or imply) that?
1 Corinthians has a bit of a diatribe against it. Funnily enough, the most condoning that it says about it is that if no one can understand what you’re saying then you should keep it to yourself.
Tyrphanax said:
For what it’s worth, I don’t understand the attractiveness of the abuse of substances either. I can’t stand being drunk.
People get dependent on them.
Back in January of this year (I believe it was either the 29th or the 30th), I received the ability to speak in other tongues from God. I’ve tried to keep in practice, praying in the spirit and getting closer to God. It hadn’t gotten nearly as good as I would have hoped since then, but I strive further nonetheless.
Can you clarify? Do you mean speaking gibberish? I don’t want to sound like I’m getting on a moral high horse; I mean, back when I was a little wild I used to think I was “possessed” during music events, so don’t think I’m coming to this from some kind of purity angle. The speaking in tongues thing has always weirded me out though because I knew some kids whose parents tried to force them to do it, and watching it was one of the freakiest things I’ve seen in my life. Then in a somewhat recent born again phase I thought of it as witchcraft or demonic possession or whatever. I’m curious if we’re talking the same thing though, because the “speaking in tongues” that I saw was genuinely disturbing and is burned into my head to this very day.
Speaking in other tongues, referring to the same sort of thing that happened to the believers in the upper room on the day of Pentecost. You know, when all of them had tongues of fire sitting over their heads as they were spiritually baptized in the Holy Ghost and they all began to speak in languages that they knew not? Remember that super important piece of Biblical history?
(Read the first two chapters of Acts.)
Yes, I have read Acts at least a dozen times, and I do remember that. If you remember the super important piece of apostolic writing that is 1 Corinthians 14 it borderline condemned speaking in tongues; it definitely encouraged weariness relating to the subject and referred to it as one of the least of gifts. The tongues thing was also portrayed throughout Acts as primarily a means of communicating with people across language barriers.
I don’t think there was flame hovering over me, but it happened, and it was really cool and weird experience. I can just speak through the spirit whenever I want now.
That’s my question, what happened? I mean what happened in detail. I’m not sure if you’re practicing speaking in tongues the way I think of it.
I’m really not sure if I know what it is you’re talking about. Could you clarify on what you mean by “I knew some kids whose parents tried to force them to do it…”?
Yes, they made him speak in tongues so he faked it, which I guess kept them satisfied. The family was involved in some kind of Charismatic Church that strongly emphasized glossolalia. The image of their babbling was burned into my mind.
Back in January of this year (I believe it was either the 29th or the 30th), I received the ability to speak in other tongues from God. I’ve tried to keep in practice, praying in the spirit and getting closer to God. It hadn’t gotten nearly as good as I would have hoped since then, but I strive further nonetheless.
Can you clarify? Do you mean speaking gibberish? I don’t want to sound like I’m getting on a moral high horse; I mean, back when I was a little wild I used to think I was “possessed” during music events, so don’t think I’m coming to this from some kind of purity angle. The speaking in tongues thing has always weirded me out though because I knew some kids whose parents tried to force them to do it, and watching it was one of the freakiest things I’ve seen in my life. Then in a somewhat recent born again phase I thought of it as witchcraft or demonic possession or whatever. I’m curious if we’re talking the same thing though, because the “speaking in tongues” that I saw was genuinely disturbing and is burned into my head to this very day.
I wasn’t aware that one could “learn” it. I thought it was a spur of the moment thing due to inspiration being directed at someone by God during prayer. I’m not trying to be mean either I just don’t quite understand how one has to learn it. I thought the experience was referred to as being “touched” by the hand of God.
Whether learned or not, if it’s the type of speaking in tongues that I think it is, it freaks me out.