moviefreakedmind

I’m not advocating that.

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

Yeah, it’s not true that you won’t meet someone. It’s just hard not knowing who, when, or where that is so it feels a long way off. But in any case, it really is better that you got through this with her now rather than stringing yourself along forever.

I agree with most of what you say in the second half of this, but I object to the “It gets better” notion that people like to share all the time. Sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn’t. I think it’s unhelpful to pretend that it’s a given that life is headed in an ultimately positive direction. That’s not even me being pessimistic, that’s just reality. Things don’t always turn out well in the end.

It depends. If you just sit alone and wallow in your misery, nothing’s going to get better. But there are certainly active ways that you can get out, get over with it, and move on. You just need to be willing to make that step. Not saying things will automatically get better, but if you don’t try, they definitely won’t.

Tell all that shit to David Foster Wallace, or Marilyn Monroe, or Robin Williams. Things might improve, but things can and still do get worse for people when they take coping steps so I don’t think people are doing anyone any favors by downplaying the reality that things getting better is not something you should expect because there’s a solid chance they won’t.

Handman said:

You guys like to pile on against mfm when he talks like that, but I find it very comforting.

I’m glad to hear that. I only bring it up because I can’t possibly be the only that finds the “It gets better” stuff far more depressing than any other piece of advice.

Handman said:

Right. That’s why I don’t like it when people say things will get better. They won’t. You have to make it better. You have to work towards it.

Even that isn’t a guarantee.

chyron8472 said:

Yeah, it’s not true that you won’t meet someone. It’s just hard not knowing who, when, or where that is so it feels a long way off. But in any case, it really is better that you got through this with her now rather than stringing yourself along forever.

I agree with most of what you say in the second half of this, but I object to the “It gets better” notion that people like to share all the time. Sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn’t. I think it’s unhelpful to pretend that it’s a given that life is headed in an ultimately positive direction. That’s not even me being pessimistic, that’s just reality. Things don’t always turn out well in the end.

I don’t get why people like Castlevania. All you do is fall through stairs and get hit by the myriad of shit that flies all over the screen.

I’m doing generally awful, which is unfortunate and expected, but I never get used to it.

You don’t want to know the thoughts that run through my barbaric brain.

This is an old story but I must have missed it.

Parkland cop receives nearly $9,000 per month pension even though he’s a coward that chose to let children die rather than protect them as he was being paid to do.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-scot-peterson-pension-20180515-story.html

Remind me again of how it’s offensive to “good cops” to call these criminal ones out?

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/man-paralyzed-after-phoenix-police-shooting-claims-officer-lied-in-report

Phoenix police shoot man in back and then slander him with false report.

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/09/21/crtvs-steven-crowder-christine-blasey-ford-lying-whore/221408

Rightwing troll Steven Crowder calls Kavanaugh accuser a “lying whore.” I bet his old friend Andrew Breitbart is proud.

I heard some stuff about it. It played in my nearest city, which is much smaller than LA. So that’s interesting.

Jay said:

What else did you expect me to say to you about Shapiro that was going to change your mind about him?

Who said anything about changing minds? You said that my hatred for him was hyperbole. I explained exactly why I find him detestable. You were wrong in assuming that I hate him because of mere disagreements with the man.

What else can I say to convince you that I’m not sympathetic to the right?

Actually it’s everything that you’ve already said that convinced me of that.

I had no idea simply letting it trail off was going to elicit such a response. Next time I’ll post something like “Okay, cool. Good talk.” Sound good?

At least just signal that you’re going to abandon the conversation so I don’t waste my time responding to something that you’re going to ignore. That’s all I ask.

Right, but they were recorded on two-track tape recorders. Let It Be, I’m betting, was not.

It is.

I think those were recorded live in studio. I don’t know how much stereo mixes of those could change.

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

Handman said:

To me, Jay sounds more like the Libertarians I know moreso than Republicans.

When you’re so far to the left that you can’t even see the center, everybody looks right-wing.

I see the center, I just don’t like it. Thanks for ignoring my post, by the way. I remember you doing that last time you quit the thread.

At some point, continuing a ceaseless, line-by-line back-and-forth covering four or five different subjects gets a bit tiresome, so rather than continue going in circles and getting so exhausted that I feel the need to step away, I let it drop. Is there some resolution you see on the horizon that I’ve missed?

No, it’s just that you usually suddenly abandon arguments immediately after I make a particularly good refutation of an incorrect assessment of my position. In this case it was a very cogent, though harsh, explanation for my hatred of Ben Shapiro that you totally ignored. You painted me as some guy who is so radical that he hates Ben Shapiro (who is himself as far to the right, if not farther, as I am to the left) for no rational reason. I provide you with that explanation and you ignore it. I think that’s rather disrespectful. If you’re not going to acknowledge my response to something you challenged me on in our conversation then can you at least in the future warn me so I won’t waste my time on composing the post you plan to ignore?

And since when is an explicit acknowledgment of every post required? Pretty sure I could go back through not just this thread, but any number of threads in which I’ve posted, and find instances where I haven’t received a direct reply to a comment and didn’t act entitled to a response. Sometimes, people just have nothing more to say on a particular subject.

It isn’t an entitlement but it’s a common courtesy to actually acknowledge something someone has said to you when you’re engaged in a conversation with them rather than just suddenly ignore it even though you’ve been an equal participant in that conversation up until that point, especially since you’re the one that actually started responding to me. Why even post in the thread if you’re just going to abandon conversations suddenly with no warning whatsoever?

Besides, when I walked away from the thread previously, that had less to do with our interaction and more to do with the general dynamic of the thread at the time. Participation and overall discussion quality have improved since then, so I thought I’d give it another shot.

Discussion quality is irrelevant if you just give up on it without any kind of closure. I actually thought our discussion was going pretty well. Apparently it wasn’t, though. I guess this is another instance of my senses lying to me.

Jay said:

Watching the videos now, but I’m not sure about labeling anyone ot.com’s favorite or least favorite anything. I run the site and I don’t even do that because I don’t speak for the forum as a whole, nor do I want people thinking we’re endorsing anything officially. I know that’s probably not how you meant it, but still.

I have next to no faith in humanity but I’m still quite sure that no one would interpret my post as anything resembling this site’s official stance on him.

Yeah, I don’t get the confusion.

I never said anything should be embraced, I just said that it shouldn’t be ignored or covered up. Obviously if you stick your hand in a 500-degree oven, the reality is that you’re burning your hand. That doesn’t mean you should do it, but you should be aware of those consequences. I’m very opposed to intentionally keeping people ignorant, or even unintentionally allowing people to be ignorant, so I think parents are responsible for making sure that their kids don’t end up as ignorant as everyone else is.

Originaltrilogy.com’s least favorite cop defends the murder of Botham Jean and condemns peaceful protest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zfl7PhZvn0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyXSOy7Kxrc

Cops violently arrest unarmed protesters of police violence:

https://wtop.com/national/2018/09/some-question-force-used-on-protesters-of-police-shooting/

I’m talking about shielding children from the more grim facts of life by shielding everyone from them. For example, “This book shouldn’t be in stores because children might get their hands on it.” If you want to deprive your children of certain media and certain images, then that’s your problem and your children can suffer for it, but don’t do it in a way that affects innocent people, including children that aren’t subjected to terrible helicopter parents.

I think the people that I hate more than anyone are people that think that their kids are my problem. I was talking to this douchebag that was complaining about how media needs to be policed more so that his precious brat can be more easily sheltered. I’m just thinking, fuck you if you want to shelter your kids from reality then do it in a way that doesn’t affect innocent, responsible people like me that didn’t produce offspring.

I was planning on ordering Andrei Rublev tomorrow because I love the Tarkovsky films that I’ve seen, but I’ll probably wait a while since I just ordered Barry Lyndon.

Jay said:

Handman said:

To me, Jay sounds more like the Libertarians I know moreso than Republicans.

When you’re so far to the left that you can’t even see the center, everybody looks right-wing.

I see the center, I just don’t like it. Thanks for ignoring my post, by the way. I remember you doing that last time you quit the thread.

Just ordered Barry Lyndon.