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#1187872
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Kind of, I wrote something harsher and then deleted half of it in editing because I thought that you meant that I understood the article but chose to ignore it. So in response I to that I wrote a sentence about how mean you are, but deleted it once I reread your post. I didn’t say that I needed to stage an exodus from the forum because of you, though. You didn’t push me quite that far 😉

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#1187865
Topic
General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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joefavs said:

What do we know about the little frog guy who eats the other creature outside Jabba’s palace right after Leia and Chewie show up? Is he a muppet? Stop motion? Traditional animation? Before I got into these preservations, when I hadn’t seen the OOT in like 15 years, I assumed he was an SE addition because the quality of his movement is so different from all the other puppets, but now having seen the GOUT and the ROTJ grindhouse and knowing that he’s from '83, I have no idea how they actually did it.

According to Wookeepedia he was actually Luke Skywalker’s informant, and his name was Lard-zen Makuisi-kahn. He distracted the palace guards while Lando snuck in, and he even helped him steal a uniform.

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#1187864
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Actually, I’m not done with this shit yet. Tell me what the goddam point was that I completely missed. I don’t like being treated like a moronic child that’s incapable of reason that just needs to be given up on. I’m fully capable of reading and I gathered from the article that black people statistically are more likely to be disadvantaged and it can’t be purely blamed on class inequality because black people, and black men in particular, are more likely to be stuck in poverty and also more likely to slide back into poverty if they escape it, whereas white people have a better chance of escaping because of better schools, etc. etc. I got all of that, and didn’t disregard it. (In fact, you could say I got the fucking point perfectly.) I merely added that for people already trapped in poverty beyond any means of escape, there is no privilege. If you’re a white kid who is in poverty but lives in a good school district, then you have white privilege and might even lead a less shitty life than your parents, but if you’re already trapped in a shit-ass life, then there is no escape, no matter what your skin color is. My only point was that white privilege is meaningless when you look at families that live in shit, drug-addled towns and neighborhoods. White privilege is meaningless to the uneducated trailer-park crowd. It’s meaningless to the single-mom of three kids at age 22. Those people have a next to zero percent chance at social mobility, regardless of how white they are. For those people and people like them (white or not), social mobility is something that will never happen and might as well be a myth. I figured that this would be common knowledge, but I guess not because some people are still confused.

Alright you didn’t miss the point, it seemed like you were ignoring it. Forget I said anything.

I didn’t ignore anything, I just added to it. SENTENCE DELETED BECAUSE I THINK I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

Lol.

What’s so funny?

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#1187851
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

it’s absurd to suggest Trump acts according to an ideology.

The administration is more than just the President, especially when the President is someone who doesn’t give a shit about doing his job and just puts the worst possible people in place to do the actual governing.

The idea that I must agree with anybody and everybody in a GOP administration is absurd. I didn’t even vote for it. Also, I wager there are any number of things the last administration did that didn’t align with your particular views. If you supported the last administration, I don’t think that means you supported every policy. mfm occasionally champions individual perspective and experience, as he did in response to the NYT article, but then seems to forget that individuals exist.

I didn’t forget that individuals exist.

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#1187849
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Actually, I’m not done with this shit yet. Tell me what the goddam point was that I completely missed. I don’t like being treated like a moronic child that’s incapable of reason that just needs to be given up on. I’m fully capable of reading and I gathered from the article that black people statistically are more likely to be disadvantaged and it can’t be purely blamed on class inequality because black people, and black men in particular, are more likely to be stuck in poverty and also more likely to slide back into poverty if they escape it, whereas white people have a better chance of escaping because of better schools, etc. etc. I got all of that, and didn’t disregard it. (In fact, you could say I got the fucking point perfectly.) I merely added that for people already trapped in poverty beyond any means of escape, there is no privilege. If you’re a white kid who is in poverty but lives in a good school district, then you have white privilege and might even lead a less shitty life than your parents, but if you’re already trapped in a shit-ass life, then there is no escape, no matter what your skin color is. My only point was that white privilege is meaningless when you look at families that live in shit, drug-addled towns and neighborhoods. White privilege is meaningless to the uneducated trailer-park crowd. It’s meaningless to the single-mom of three kids at age 22. Those people have a next to zero percent chance at social mobility, regardless of how white they are. For those people and people like them (white or not), social mobility is something that will never happen and might as well be a myth. I figured that this would be common knowledge, but I guess not because some people are still confused.

Alright you didn’t miss the point, it seemed like you were ignoring it. Forget I said anything.

I didn’t ignore anything, I just added to it. SENTENCE DELETED BECAUSE I THINK I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

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#1187727
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

Strong agree.

The policies of the current administration and the ideology that fuels it, which you’ve defended on many occasions, are at fault for much of this hopelessness.

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#1187726
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Actually, I’m not done with this shit yet. Tell me what the goddam point was that I completely missed. I don’t like being treated like a moronic child that’s incapable of reason that just needs to be given up on. I’m fully capable of reading and I gathered from the article that black people statistically are more likely to be disadvantaged and it can’t be purely blamed on class inequality because black people, and black men in particular, are more likely to be stuck in poverty and also more likely to slide back into poverty if they escape it, whereas white people have a better chance of escaping because of better schools, etc. etc. I got all of that, and didn’t disregard it. (In fact, you could say I got the fucking point perfectly.) I merely added that for people already trapped in poverty beyond any means of escape, there is no privilege. If you’re a white kid who is in poverty but lives in a good school district, then you have white privilege and might even lead a less shitty life than your parents, but if you’re already trapped in a shit-ass life, then there is no escape, no matter what your skin color is. My only point was that white privilege is meaningless when you look at families that live in shit, drug-addled towns and neighborhoods. White privilege is meaningless to the uneducated trailer-park crowd. It’s meaningless to the single-mom of three kids at age 22. Those people have a next to zero percent chance at social mobility, regardless of how white they are. For those people and people like them (white or not), social mobility is something that will never happen and might as well be a myth. I figured that this would be common knowledge, but I guess not because some people are still confused.

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#1187720
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

Why do you think Pope Francis sucks?

He stands for a system and institution that I’m very opposed to, and ultimately is opposed to me and much of what I hold dear. I do give him credit for pushing the church in a more progressive direction on certain issues.

EDIT: Sucks is an unprofessional word, but hey I suck too so I can get away with saying it.

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#1187706
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

You didn’t disregard the race angle?

moviefreakedmind said:

Not to downplay racism, but social mobility seems like a myth to me regardless.

I said that social mobility is a myth to me and a lot of other people who have never experienced it or even witnessed. You can keep pretending to not get what I’m saying, though. This is why everybody hates rich people.

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#1187702
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

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#1187685
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

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#1187671
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Not to downplay racism, but social mobility seems like a myth to me regardless. I know it’s anecdotal but I can count on one hand the number of people in the places I lived (most of them white) that have significantly bettered their financial situation, and at least one of those did so by marrying well. Even though the article says that 2 out of 3 white kids will escape the poverty of their youth, and I’ll trust their statistics, it’s hard to take any of that seriously when you’ve never actually seen such a thing.

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#1187602
Topic
Pirates of the Caribbean and the Political Correctness Craze
Time

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

What about blaming the suits for making Rogue One bad? That film is obviously calculated to the T.

Nope.

Are you really going to pretend that R1 wasn’t a film that revolved entirely around getting characters from one Star Wars-looking location to the next?

I don’t really even understand what this means.

Lol.

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#1187600
Topic
Pirates of the Caribbean and the Political Correctness Craze
Time

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

What about blaming the suits for making Rogue One bad? That film is obviously calculated to the T.

Nope.

Are you really going to pretend that R1 wasn’t a film that revolved entirely around getting characters from one Star Wars-looking location to the next?

No need to pretend it wasn’t when it already actually wasn’t.

Oh, sorry, it was a beautiful tale of redemption, loss, and perseverance.