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#436078
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The SE wasn't needed.
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Easterhay said:

And isn't the way Alec Guinnes paused before replying to the question "How did my father die?" just perfect?  It's as though Lucas had told him the backstory on the quiet.

Absolutely. George must've had some small inkling about what to do with Luke's dad (not sure if Anakin came at that time. It was almost Alec had seen Sith, even though he (obviously) didn't.

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#392969
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1997 Special Edition Restoration thoughts...
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zombie84 said:

TPM had all its effects work done at 2k, because 4k didn't exist in 1997, and every shot except one had a digital effect in it--meaning the negative of TPM will always be 2k (if it is from a stored DI in the computer) or less (if it is printed back onto film and then transfered beack to video). Probably all future releases will directly use the 2k DI though.

This may sound crazy, but if they still have the film, they could redo the effects at 4k if they want. Heck, if they still have the computer files, they can just rerender and recomposite. I know, it sounds crazy, but it is possible to make a 4k Phantom Menace if they have the film, even more if they have the visual effects files.

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#392512
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1997 Special Edition Restoration thoughts...
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BmB said:

Well actually Phantom was shot on 35mm no? But I'm sure the master is a 1080p digital scan anyway.

One scene was shot on digital video as a test but, yeah, 4k can work for Phantom Menace.

It's a shame the two later prequels can get 4k scans, but it shouldn't hold back the other four films, especially the originals, in their original forms (not even a question :)). I mean, a lot of films have 4k scans: Godfather, African Queen, the Godfather trilogy, and Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind before they got 8k scans. The Star Wars trilogy is arguably just as important as those other films, and maybe not even arguably (New Hope is in the freaking Library of Congress with Oz and Wind). I heard Godfather was c*** before it got restored, so it can't be impossible for Star Wars. Nice, 4k restoration of both the 77, 80, 83 versions and 04 versions (the 04s are Lucas' visions after all). Hopefully, it'll be done someday before it's too late.

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#383930
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1997 Special Edition Musings
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The SE were my first foray into Star Wars. I enjoyed ANH and ROTJ in theaters and became a huge Star Wars fan because of them. They taught me about sequels and trilogies. The funny thing was when I got a VHS set of the films shortly after, I was surprised that the Jabba scene wasn't on it. That was when I learned they got changed. I can't remember anything else about it  since, as I said, it was my first SW exposure (I was 9), except maybe a clip or two from Muppet Babies.

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#354153
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The SE wasn't needed.
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This may be late a little late and I mean no disrespect but to the phrase "The SE wasn't needed" I say: No kidding. There are plenty of films that are still loved without having any more than a good restoration. Bert Lahr is not replaced by some CG lion in Wizard of Oz, you can see strings in the original Day the Earth Stood Still, and the 33 King Kong never lost its stop motion star. All three don't have as much as a frame of CGI, either at the time of their releases or in the future and they are still beloved films. And they're not the only old films that have never gotten a George Lucas like redo and are still considered classics. They were just the three that came to mind. If a guy in a less than stellar lion costume, obvious behind the scenes objects like wires holding actors, and a jittery gorilla don't ruin the films they are featured in, then nothing in Star Wars needed to be touched up. Seriously, the old effects are still cool today and kick the asses of a lot effects done today. So yeah, the SE wasn't needed. Mr. Lucas, I understand that you may not be entirely satisfied with your work and I appalud you wanting to fix them, but some of us like your rough drafts. At least include restored versions of your "rough" drafts with your finished drafts and we'll be happy. (And I didn't mean to insult Wizard of Oz, Day the Earth Stood Still, and King Kong; the problems I mentioned are extremely minor and they are wonderful films that should be experienced in their theatrical glory...like a certain sci-fi trilogy that I'm sure we all know).
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#352747
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1997 Special Edition Restoration thoughts...
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R2-918 said:

 the Digital Bit's sources have informed them that some of the Star Wars movies (probably only Episodes 1,2 and 3) may get a Blu-ray release next year.

 

 God, if only 1, 2, and 3 are released before 4, 5, and 6 on Blu, this site is going to get ugly real quick (no offense meant). If the Blus for 4, 5, and 6 only include the SEs or include low res copies of the originals, I suggest Lucas heads for the hiils.

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#352091
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An interesting thread from Blu-Ray.com (no Blu-Rays yet)
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Fang Zei said:

As for the OOT, well, the only explanation they offered back in '06 was "existing prints are in bad condition." They could retcon that to mean anything they want if/when they suddenly choose to dig up and restore the interpositives and do 1080p transfers of them.

 

 You know, if they did pull that, I'd be okay with that, as long as we get beautiful Blus of the unaltered trilogy.

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#352087
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1997 Special Edition Restoration thoughts...
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jhfagan said:

That does seem all too ridiculous.

But my other question on THAT would be, in order for him to edit and add in new FX to old scenes, ( ex. Han/Greedo scene) he would have had to scan that footage into a computer to manipulate it as he did.

So at SOME point, even if he did take physical prints of the doctored scenes and splice them physically right into the restored negative, the original print negatives existed in the digital realm before being SE'inized.

Right?

 

 

 I hope that was what he did, that means that a restored, 4K copy is still possible. I would settle for an interpositive too. Better than DVD copies of laserdiscs (that was mean of me). I really do wish he would make 4K restored copies of the unaltered trilogy, just as an act of preserving film art.

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#345819
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An interesting thread from Blu-Ray.com (no Blu-Rays yet)
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http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=63586

Yeah, I'm back. I found something you guys might want to read. It kinda explains why the Special Editions are the Lucas approved ones.

Quote from the thread:

I think his transfers are archive transfer. Maybe 4K or beyond. Frame-by-frame lossless compression or none at all. All the CGI-animated files are probably archived too, in case they need more tweaking; after all, he saved ALL of the VFX elements even way back then.

Pretty interesting. What do you guys think?

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#331725
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I have a bad feeling about this...
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http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy/dp/B001EN71DG/ref=pd_bxgy_d_img_b

Who else had a part of their souls die when they saw this? I mean, c'mon, where's remastered original versions, to say nothing about Blu-Rays.

Despite the coolness of the box, I'm not getting this sad set. Heck, I ain't getting anymore Star Wars DVDs until the originals are made to look their finest.

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#325259
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What about the Remastered Star Trek or E.T.
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doubleofive said:

Star Trek Remastered never affected the plot, only enhanced it.  They tried to fix mistakes and redo the space effects, not make the Gorn shoot first.  Sure, some of the motion is pretty bad, but overall I think STR worked out rather well.

 This is probably going to get me killed, but did Star Wars SE really change the story that much? I always thought that the stories were the same, it was just some of the effects.

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#325258
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OT Special Edition haters
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Mielr said:

monkeyjb1988 said:

The change that irks me the most is the change from a classic: (from Empire)

Luke: (after R2 got spat out by Dagobah monster) You're lucky you don't taste too good.

to the standard and less fun:

Luke: (after R2 got spat out by Dagobah monster) You're lucky you got out of there.

That irked me more than Jabba in ANH or Greedo getting the first shot.

That's not a Special Edition change, though. Both of those versions existed pre-SE.

 I still didn't like it. It was listed on a comparison site, so I thought it was a SE change. Still my least favorite.

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#324809
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I think you guys will like this...
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95 of 114 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Star Wars: A No Hope, September 12, 2006
By  R. Schneblin (CA USA) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
INTERIOR: REBEL BLOCKADE RUNNER -- CORRIDOR

The angry Darth Vader stands amid the broken and twisted DVDs of 2004 versions of Star Wars.

IMPERIAL OFFICER: The new version is only a poor copy of the laserdisk, and it's only provided as a special feature.

Vader squeezes the neck of George Lucas, who struggles in vain.

VADER: Where is the original film? What have you done with the 1977 theatrical release?

Vader lifts General Lucas off his feet by his throat.

VADER: What have you done with the anamorphic widescreen?

LUCAS: The original negative is in too bad a shape to make a better copy.

VADER: If the original is in such bad condition, how did you make the 2004 edit version?

The Dark Lord begins to squeeze the producer's throat, creating a gruesome snapping and choking, until Lucas goes limp.

VADER: Commander, tear LucasFilm apart until we have a true version, and make sure it has the original 5.1 SOUND!!

 

I laughed when I first read this (I don't mean to offend George Lucas) and I knew you guys would appreciate. I bet one of you guys wrote it. :)

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#324550
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What about the Remastered Star Trek or E.T.
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With all this talk about the remastered Star Wars, I haven't seen anything about the opinions about new CG shots for E.T. and all the new CG shots for the original Star Trek and some shots for the first Star Trek movie.

E.T. was well done, althought I could tell which shots had and CG E.T. head and which kept the original. At least the original was availiable with the SE for a while.

I never saw the first Star Trek movie until the SE came on DVD so I can't comment on it. The SE of the original series was pretty good. Some shots were less than stellar, but the original Star Trek was never ILM material (pun intended).

What are your thoughts about the E.T. Special Edition and the Star Trek Special Edition (both series and 1st movie)?

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#324547
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OT Special Edition haters
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The change that irks me the most is the change from a classic: (from Empire)

Luke: (after R2 got spat out by Dagobah monster) You're lucky you don't taste too good.

to the standard and less fun:

Luke: (after R2 got spat out by Dagobah monster) You're lucky you got out of there.

That irked me more than Jabba in ANH or Greedo getting the first shot.

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#324055
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Wouldn't it be awesome if the Blu-Ray of Star Wars was like this...?
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http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=545

or even like this...

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=374

with all the different versions, so if someone doesn't like the changes the director made, they still have the original on another disc? The special part is that Ridley Scott didn't like the original version, yet he's still putting out with his Director's Cut. George Lucas, if you're reading this, I know you prefer your new versions, but please, put out the originals like how Ridley Scott did this release of Blade Runner.

Who else would die if Star Wars was released like this?