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#1325503
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Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
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tomi said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

tomi said:

but it’s cropped )-:

It isn’t cropped, it’s matted. The 2013 Blu-ray was matted and cropped on all four sides compared to the open matte Gold Classic Collection/45th Anniversary Edition DVD and the matted Disney+ stream.

oh
so it was made with that aspect ratio in mind
that’s good to know

As best as I can remember reading, all their films from the 60s to the (80s-00s?) were made so they could be shown matted to widescreen in theaters but also be shown open-matted on television, something that obviously included videotapes when they became popular. I’m sure BOTH versions are valid by design since Disney knew there’d be different ways an audience can view them.

ccateni said:

Disney needs to start giving other companies a chance to restore their films because of their botched jobs.
Oh, and give the audience the original theatrical cuts of films and not the edited versions, that really crappy for them not to.

This may be unpopular of me to say but I think MOST of the Disney restorations look great. Granted, I’ve seen the one running away scene in Cinderella, screenshots of the bad Sword in the Stone, and the alligator/blue bird scene in Lion King, coupled with the fact that I hadn’t watched most of the films between my “little kid” and “young adult years”, but I like how they look. The older cel and paper films look like animation of the era. I know Disney removed some of the mistakes (like paint variations and cel mis-alignment), but they didn’t go so far to make them look like… well, like the CAPS made films. Granted, they should be taken to task for bad restorations but there’s two points I want to make:

1.) Disney+'s version of The Sword in the Stone shows they know when they screwed up and will possibly use the move to 4K as a chance to fix mistakes.

2.) Comparisons to theatrical prints may not tell the whole story. Granted, the filmmakers may’ve made choices based on how it’ll look on a theatrical print many generations down but that has to be weighed against the fact that the print a fan today maybe looking at today has aged and might no longer look like how it did when first made. Also, prints were made to be trashed after the theater run, so I can’t imagine them being the best representations compared to the negatives and interpositives Disney would’ve been looking at. Again, it might not be the best approach for Disney to match the films to the artwork in their archives without thinking of how they would’ve looked after many stages in copying but I doubt we can judge by prints. For all we know, what we’re seeing now may be what the artists were trying for.

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#1317366
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New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh - Preservation Project
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VintageMan94 said:

I’ve Recently Discovered The Title Of Rabbit Marks The Spot Was Changed.

Original Broadcast, Thank to CDCB2.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PYTW1vOcPPDC5KcvH6l5FeCToUjYtfed

TV Reruns, VHS & DVD Release.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FRki5HOHi3L83yfXbpwWoFcO62rbat0B

Disney Plus, Sorry About The Raw Photo Capture.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MyzRqcGJrzQcVRwNr5rnQ6wYrYZxGC4U

My guess is that the title was added on video for both the original production and HD remaster and they weren’t careful in matching the original font.

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#1312557
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Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
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tomi said:

nevermind just checked and it is 16:9
shame

Yeah, I meant to answer you but I forgot to before this. Sorry. I thought the framing looked ok but, again, this is only my 2nd viewing of the film.

WattsFilms1990 said:

Out of all the restorations I’ve seen from Disney, one of the worst color restorations I’ve ever seen from them is the Region 1 DVDs of one of my favorite Mickey Mouse shorts, The Prince and the Pauper.
I mean, just look at this!
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The difference is almost literally “night and day”!

Here’s a video comparison I made some time ago:
https://youtu.be/S3-7QHae580

Boy, then I have slightly unpleasant news: Disney+, while HD, looks more like the DVD image, at least the scene that those screenshots came from.

I JUST watched your video and there are scenes where I agree that the VHS had better color (especially the nighttime scene by the window, but also the golden color in one of the chase scenes). The newer copy looks fine to someone who hasn’t seen the VHS and I feel it’s brighter at least partially to compensate for VHS’ reduced ability to show details (I read this affected the VHS of the 89 Batman as well) but I can certainly see a difference (at least more than some Winnie the Pooh comparisons I’ve seen).

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#1312552
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REQ: Muppet Christmas Carol Widescreen w/ deleted song and Dir. commentary!
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monkeyjb1988 said:

Variant04 said:

There may exist a 4K version of the movie…

So if anyone were to also get a 4K rip of the song, it would be possible to have a 4K movie with the scene.

The movie’s in 4K on Disney+. I thought someone said the deleted song was 4K too but the movie’s definitely 4K.

If true, it doesn’t look QUITE as good as the film. Probably the best the scene looked to a home audience (previously on 1.33 DVD), but it looks like, to me at least (who don’t get some of the arguments about color timings so judge for yourself) from a high-quality workprint rather than from the negative.

Again, it does look pretty good, but the scenes still in the film book-ending the song look better than what’s in between.

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#1312012
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Jedi Master Skywalker said:

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1204960815821946880?s=21

JJ is on our sides

Very interesting. I’m sure Disney ain’t happy, but glad to know we have someone official on our side.

44rh1n said:

Very interesting! Charles Bunnag, one of the colorists of the new 4K HDR Disney+ version of the Original Trilogy, as well as “The Mandalorian,” has spoken regarding the negative claims that the Disney+ HDR is “fake.” There’s even an interesting comment from Marc Wielage (colorist of the 2004 versions). https://mixinglight.com/color-tutorial/is-the-disney-series-the-mandalorian-fake-hdr/

Also cool. Yeah, I’ve watched Mandalorian on both my 1080p tv and my new 4K and both look great (not a great ton of difference between the two but shrug.

I’ve read the rest of the thread (not gonna quote all of it) but I agree the OOT is becoming a less distinct possibility. I would love to see them brought back but as it stands, I think the flame wars between old-timers from the 70s-97 and the newbies from 97-now will make the star wars look like a skirmish. I don’t think Disney wants that headache and those of us who want the OOT but can just as easily enjoy the 4K19 (even with “Maklunky”, rocks in front of R2 and “NOOOOO!!!” in Jedi) are gonna be stuck in the middle. I’m keeping up hope but I’m not going to let it cloud my enjoyment of the trilogy.

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#1310373
Topic
Does Lucas receive any royalties for characters he created?
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For $4 billion, I feel like that was the last of the royalties. Even if it wasn’t, I feel like even stuff like The Mandolorian, Resistance, and any other Star Wars would still be enough, from a legal standpoint, to still owe George Lucas royalties unless Disney’s lawyers squared the issue away (and, c’mon, it’s Disney; they squared it away 😃 ).

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#1310309
Topic
A Charlie Brown Christmas comparisons
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I found this on YouTube and thought of you guys. I approve of SOME of the changes and the restored picture of the changed version but I wanted to hear your thoughts (if you’re offended by my previous comment, understand I was born over 20 years after this special first aired so the newer one is what I remember)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm-7ADxAUg4

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#1309742
Topic
<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Anchorhead said:

SO nice to see Mos Eisley back to proper 1977 form. I thought this was a bit stronger than four. I liked four, but this was more my style of a lone bounty hunter. It remains to be seen what he plans on doing with the baby but he seems to want to leave it somewhere safe, as he was trying to do in the last episode.

I also think it was Mando going back for her at the end. If not her body, then something she may have been carrying that the other guy overlooked.

There was a nice shot of Mando on the Dewback that matches the picture on the bottom of my lunchbox. The original was used in other memorabilia back in 77. An obvious inspiration for the shot in this episode. I’m really digging that attention to detail. I don’t have my lunchbox handy, but I’ll take a pic when I can.

I’m not seeing the forced female agenda on this show at all. With the ST, yes, but I’m not bothered by it. With this show, I’m not getting that vibe at all.

I don’t think it was the Mando going back unless that last shot took place earlier in the episode. Just me though.

I agree not forced female agenda on this show (but disagree with the sequel trilogy; I don’t see it there either). There just happen to be female characters these past two episodes and they were all cool… just not as cool as Mando. It’s a big galaxy.

Finally, are you taking about the AMOUNT of people in Mos Eisley when you say it matches 1977? I figured people on this thread would be annoyed it matched the 1997 version of Mos Eisley as it was one more nail in the original versions’ coffins (or at least makes MY personal arguments that neither version is exclusive to each other with canon, other than “Maclunky” 😄) As for some who can enjoy either version, I was tickled to see Mos Eisley matched so well for it’s return to the Star Wars saga.

orchidal said:

My prediction is that the first 3 eps and maybe the last two eps (last 3 eps if I’m being optimistic) of this season are important to the narrative, while 4,5, and possibly 6 will serve as filler. Looking forward to a 2hr15min. fan edit of this season more than having to view this episodically tbh.

Maybe it’s filler, but it’s still entertaining and expands the universe. At least, at only 8 episodes, there’s time to make the filler episodes good (or at least I like them). I’m not sure we need a fanedit as you can skip the recaps for each episode and the credits after the beautiful art. Just me I guess 😃

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#1309735
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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DrDre said:

Having looked at the 1997 reference williarob shared in the past in some detail, it is clear, that the colorist clearly used the 1997 SE as a color reference for the OT. It’s also pretty obvious, that the 1997 SE prints are not as vibrant as for example a technicolor print.

Still better than the 2004/2011 coloring. I watched parts of the 4K77 and 4K83 restorations and the 2019 restoration look very similar (minus 97 additions & recuts).

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#1309731
Topic
Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
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I don’t see the problem with hidden adult jokes if they go far enough over a kid’s head. I was over 20 when I saw the 89 Batman and the Joker said “[Gotham City] needs an enema” and my dad explained why he laughed out loud at that (Granted, 89 Batman may not be the best “kids’ movies” example and that joke not really obscure but still, flew over my head despite multiple viewings).

Swift S. Lawliet said:

monkeyjb1988 said:

I just watched The Sword in the Stone on Disney+. Definitely NOT one of Disney’s greatest works (just a, admittedly humorous, series of events before Arthur pulls the sword after not being mentioned for most of the film) but that’s not why it’s brought up on this board so often.

I watched it because I know its DNR reputation and I’ve seen the results. I also saw it was one of the films available in 4K, which I took to mean a new restoration/not using the flawed Blu-Ray master. So, I made it a point to watch it (AFTER I got some Star Wars in my system, including The Mandolorian 😃 )

In short, it looks FAR better than the Blu-Ray/streaming screenshots I’ve seen. Granted, the linework is wonky, but it’s too sharp to be the fault of anything other than the xeroxing done to make the cels. It’s hard to just see in these screen shots but the lines change and you can see the pencil markings that made it to the cels and film. In short, the films looks great… er, in a “replicates the original art” way rather than “replicates the film” way. (Keep in mind I can only get screenshots off a laptop that’s not 1080p; please account for that, it looked great on my TV).

https://imgur.com/88APyO8
https://imgur.com/RPngbTH
https://imgur.com/UeuGneL

Also, I saw this Hollywood Reporter story. In summary, people seem to be warming to the “Contains Outdated Cultural Depictions”; they want more but I don’t think we have to worry about films getting edited as of yet (the crows are still in Dumbo)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-outdated-cultural-depictions-disclaimer-raises-questions-say-advocacy-groups-1255284?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR Breaking News_2019-11-16 11:07:00_tberesford&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews

I saw that The Black Cauldron is also in 4K Dolby Vision, which is interesting since Disney pretty much treats it with the cold shoulder and has never released it on Blu-ray, let alone 4K UHD.

Also, the linework is supposed to be wonky, considering it’s a xerox-era film.
The terrible DNR on the Blu-ray was supposed to combat the wonkiness inherent to the xerography technology.
A good restoration of a xerox-era film should embrace the wonkiness.

I figured the wonkiness was ok, I just wanted to run it by all of you to make sure it wasn’t something new. Yeah, I figured everything was ok and it certainly didn’t look like what screencaps of the Blu-Ray say it would. Very glad to know Sword in the Stone was one of the first 4K remasters on Disney+ due to it’s “well-loved” Blu-Ray.

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#1305920
Topic
Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
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I just watched The Sword in the Stone on Disney+. Definitely NOT one of Disney’s greatest works (just a, admittedly humorous, series of events before Arthur pulls the sword after not being mentioned for most of the film) but that’s not why it’s brought up on this board so often.

I watched it because I know its DNR reputation and I’ve seen the results. I also saw it was one of the films available in 4K, which I took to mean a new restoration/not using the flawed Blu-Ray master. So, I made it a point to watch it (AFTER I got some Star Wars in my system, including The Mandolorian 😃 )

In short, it looks FAR better than the Blu-Ray/streaming screenshots I’ve seen. Granted, the linework is wonky, but it’s too sharp to be the fault of anything other than the xeroxing done to make the cels. It’s hard to just see in these screen shots but the lines change and you can see the pencil markings that made it to the cels and film. In short, the films looks great… er, in a “replicates the original art” way rather than “replicates the film” way. (Keep in mind I can only get screenshots off a laptop that’s not 1080p; please account for that, it looked great on my TV).

https://imgur.com/88APyO8
https://imgur.com/RPngbTH
https://imgur.com/UeuGneL

Also, I saw this Hollywood Reporter story. In summary, people seem to be warming to the “Contains Outdated Cultural Depictions”; they want more but I don’t think we have to worry about films getting edited as of yet (the crows are still in Dumbo)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-outdated-cultural-depictions-disclaimer-raises-questions-say-advocacy-groups-1255284?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR Breaking News_2019-11-16 11:07:00_tberesford&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews

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#1089213
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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Possessed said:

I’m not sure if roku fully supports 5.1 or not, but I can tell you that if your 5.1 system has a pro logic setting the 2.0 tracks will still give great surround. They are matrix encoded to be compatible with dolby surround/pro logic and you will get legitimate surround, as in actual surround effects where they are supposed to be not just ambience. Use movie mode. In fact the 5.1 mixes present in de specialized are basically just doctored pro logic mixes anyway.

CatBus said:

Some players don’t know what to do with DTS-MA audio in an MKV (even if they deal with it fine in other media formats). Converting to AC3 will give you a (lossy) 5.1 track. Burning to a Blu-ray will give you a lossless 5.1 track, but not in an MKV. Or you could try PC software playback, etc.

Understood. Thank you guys. Yeah, my 5.1 doesn’t really play back in lossless, so I’ll try AC3 first. If that doesn’t work, then Pro Logic (that was DEFINITELY mention in the manuel). Thank you Possessed and Catbus.

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#1089120
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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First off, great work Harmy. Turning a bunch of different sources into one cohesive whole, and in HD no less, is pretty darn awesome. Thumbs up.

I have a question directed to all of OriginalTrilogy.com: I have a Roku with a USB port and that is how I usually watch Harmy’s Star Wars cuts, converted from MKV to MP4 with the best 2.0 audio track. Recently, I got a 5.1 speaker system and reconverted the MKV file using the 5.1 audio. When I plugged the USB into my Roku, NO sound came out. I had the audio settings set the same as the original audio (in terms of bit rate and that) but nothing. If anyone knows what happened because it happened to them or just know I would appreciate it.

FYI, because my dad was with me and wanted to hear Return of the Jedi (I know this is the Empire thread, I just figured what works for one file works for the others) in 5.1 (like me), I had to play my 2011 blu-ray (don’t feel sorry for me; I actually tolerate the special editions. I just prefer the originals/Harmy’s).

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#1079275
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&quot;Scrubs&quot; coming to Comedy Central in Widescreen and HD
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digitalfreaknyc said:

I can definitely cap!

But I wouldn’t count on it being 16x9. I just checked Hulu and they’re still 4x3

I checked as well, that’s true. Our best hope is that Comedy Central just has exclusiveness for a while. The promo looked promising but it did have a border on 3 sides so I couldn’t tell for sure (only watching on my phone probably doesn’t help).

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#1079163
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&quot;Scrubs&quot; coming to Comedy Central in Widescreen and HD
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I can’t. I feel bad for not being able to because you just made my day.

I found a promo on Comedy Central, but it’s pillared box with a border for the channel to promote it. However, it does look like it 16:9. Hope someone can confirm and see if Scrubs got a long awaited remaster 😃

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/1krgkh/the-best-of-scrubs-marathon