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#1271212
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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nl0428 said:

leetwall31 said:

nl0428 said:

leetwall31 said:

nl0428 said:

Overtime, Snoke was able to communicate himself to Ben through the Force. Ben was young and learning, and was still unfamiliar. I’m sure that he didn’t trust Snoke at first, but he listened to him and fell into his temptations and sayings about his family, as he was still isolated by them. Very much how Palpatine manipulated Anakin, as he was losing trust in the Jedi. Ben is not weak, but vulnerable, alone and depressed. Snoke acted as a mentor to him that Luke was never able to do for his nephew at his academy.

This is a great explanation, and it probably would’ve made a great story to tell. It baffles me they never show this to us. But then again…this is the story of the prequels. It’s too similar to Anakin and Palpatine. Plus I don’t like where they took Luke with this. “Murdering his Nephew??” Jesus christ eye roll

Either way, the audience never saw this still. I think you can sympathize with him because you seem to know more about his backstory then what the movies tell us. But to the average audience member, he’s not sympathetic at all.

The first time the audience begins to sympathize with Ben is his first scene in The Last Jedi. He is berated by Snoke and smashes his mask in frustration and anger towards his master. We had already have seen some humanity in him when he was conflicted about killing Han on the catwalk, but here we see more of who he is and how he feels. He even decides to not shoot his mother, due to how weakened he felt when he gave into the Dark Side to kill his father. It shows how there is still light in him by showing how he still feels for his family, despite feeling betrayed by them.

As for the direction for Luke, I was quite disappointed by his actions as first, but the more I thought about it, the more it made sense to me. There’s a reason as to why the original characters are slightly different in the sequel trilogy than they were in the original trilogy, and it’s because of progression and evolution. Even though Luke was a hero by saving his father, that didn’t mean that his character would remain the same in the years to come. He for filled Yoda’s promise by passing on what he had learned, but he changed dramatically as he became older and more importantly, took on the role of a Jedi Master, a teacher. He’s now an uncle, and he now takes responsibility for his actions. Look at Han for example. In the original trilogy, he didn’t believe in the Force, but now he does, and he’s now older and a father. This is something that Luke, Han and Leia have never had the chance to become in the original trilogy, parents. For first timers, it can be hard and difficult. I love how realistic the characters are portrayed, as it adds and extra layer of depth to each one of them.

This is kind of interesting. When you explain it like that, I guess it would make a bit more sense for Luke to do that. He wasn’t going to risk the galaxy plunging back into darkness over 1 person. BUT, I think the real reason this has divided fans is because there was no build up to this. If we saw this journey of Luke that you just described over a couple of movies, then we might’ve accepted this turn a bit more. But to jump forward in time like this, totally polarizes what we remember him being and how he is now. How did Luke get to this point? What kind of person is he now? We’ll never really be able to understand him the same way. Once again, the issue seems to be that the audience never experiences the proper build up for these events.

You may like this. This is a theory video from a now defunct YouTuber, Vincent Vendetta. He made this before The Last Jedi came out. This is about how Rey and Kylo Ren could have a romantic relationship, which I believe is a plan that was made and is being played out in the trilogy.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MoyGFgTIQXTW8jpxq2lECZVnUXgIccjD/view

I remember this guy. His vids were cool, shame he’s gone. The romance makes sense to me (it sounds like something Disney would go for), but I don’t understand why they haven’t built it up a bit more at this point. Either way, these backstories are getting too convoluted for the characters. I don’t think people want to see “Reylo”. Kylo isn’t sympathetic enough to the average movie goer.

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#1271205
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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nl0428 said:

leetwall31 said:

nl0428 said:

Overtime, Snoke was able to communicate himself to Ben through the Force. Ben was young and learning, and was still unfamiliar. I’m sure that he didn’t trust Snoke at first, but he listened to him and fell into his temptations and sayings about his family, as he was still isolated by them. Very much how Palpatine manipulated Anakin, as he was losing trust in the Jedi. Ben is not weak, but vulnerable, alone and depressed. Snoke acted as a mentor to him that Luke was never able to do for his nephew at his academy.

This is a great explanation, and it probably would’ve made a great story to tell. It baffles me they never show this to us. But then again…this is the story of the prequels. It’s too similar to Anakin and Palpatine. Plus I don’t like where they took Luke with this. “Murdering his Nephew??” Jesus christ eye roll

Either way, the audience never saw this still. I think you can sympathize with him because you seem to know more about his backstory then what the movies tell us. But to the average audience member, he’s not sympathetic at all.

The first time the audience begins to sympathize with Ben is his first scene in The Last Jedi. He is berated by Snoke and smashes his mask in frustration and anger towards his master. We had already have seen some humanity in him when he was conflicted about killing Han on the catwalk, but here we see more of who he is and how he feels. He even decides to not shoot his mother, due to how weakened he felt when he gave into the Dark Side to kill his father. It shows how there is still light in him by showing how he still feels for his family, despite feeling betrayed by them.

As for the direction for Luke, I was quite disappointed by his actions as first, but the more I thought about it, the more it made sense to me. There’s a reason as to why the original characters are slightly different in the sequel trilogy than they were in the original trilogy, and it’s because of progression and evolution. Even though Luke was a hero by saving his father, that didn’t mean that his character would remain the same in the years to come. He for filled Yoda’s promise by passing on what he had learned, but he changed dramatically as he became older and more importantly, took on the role of a Jedi Master, a teacher. He’s now an uncle, and he now takes responsibility for his actions. Look at Han for example. In the original trilogy, he didn’t believe in the Force, but now he does, and he’s now older and a father. This is something that Luke, Han and Leia have never had the chance to become in the original trilogy, parents. For first timers, it can be hard and difficult. I love how realistic the characters are portrayed, as it adds and extra layer of depth to each one of them.

This is kind of interesting. When you explain it like that, I guess it would make a bit more sense for Luke to do that. He wasn’t going to risk the galaxy plunging back into darkness over 1 person. BUT, I think the real reason this has divided fans is because there was no build up to this. If we saw this journey of Luke that you just described over a couple of movies, then we might’ve accepted this turn a bit more. But to jump forward in time like this, totally polarizes what we remember him being and how he is now. How did Luke get to this point? What kind of person is he now? We’ll never really be able to understand him the same way. Once again, the issue seems to be that the audience never experiences the proper build up for these events. This is just bad story planning by Disney. They made an interesting story (that’s kinda lacking in originality), but they decided to start telling it to us in the middle chapter. Episode 7 should’ve been Episode 10.

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#1271198
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DominicCobb said:

leetwall31 said:

DominicCobb said:

The fact that the scene was, in fact, filmed. I think it’s maybe one of the top SW cut scenes that should have been in the movie (well, depending on how it looks when played out).

I disagree. From what I saw, it looked like the most awkward duel ever. Anakin was just standing there, watching them. And the worst part was that he wasn’t in the background. He was like a couple feet off, making dumb faces trying to show the audience he was torn about this. I’m sooooo happy it was cut.

What are you talking about?

Lol my bad. I meant to quote someone else regarding the original Mace vs Palpatine fight scene.

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#1271194
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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nl0428 said:

Overtime, Snoke was able to communicate himself to Ben through the Force. Ben was young and learning, and was still unfamiliar. I’m sure that he didn’t trust Snoke at first, but he listened to him and fell into his temptations and sayings about his family, as he was still isolated by them. Very much how Palpatine manipulated Anakin, as he was losing trust in the Jedi. Ben is not weak, but vulnerable, alone and depressed. Snoke acted as a mentor to him that Luke was never able to do for his nephew at his academy.

This is a great explanation, and it probably would’ve made a great story to tell. It baffles me they never show this to us. But then again…this is the story of the prequels. It’s too similar to Anakin and Palpatine. Plus I don’t like where they took Luke with this: “Murdering his Nephew?” Jesus christ eye roll

Either way, the audience never saw this still. I think you can sympathize with him because you seem to know more about his backstory than what the movies tell us. But to the average audience member, he’s not sympathetic at all.

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#1271192
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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nl0428 said:

leetwall31 said:

nl0428 said:

leetwall31 said:

nl0428 said:

I actually sympathized with him and felt bad for how lonely, isolated, and betrayed he was by his family.

Really? That’s not what I pick up at all. How do you think he was betrayed?

Han and Leia, while they loved him, didn’t spend enough time with him as a child. Both were busy leading the Rebellion (now the Resistance) while Ben felt isolated at times. Han was always jumping back and forth from still smuggling (before he went back full time after Ben’s downfall) and Leia became a hard-working senator in the new Republic. Both of their busy lives took up the majority of their lives when Ben was younger, as if he was abandoned. Even when they sent him to Luke’s academy, Ben still felt that he was being looked aside from his family, adding more to his depression and loneliness. This is the same abandonment and lonely feeling that Rey had been suffering from on Jakku. This is what led Snoke to manipulate him, as he was in a vulnerable place in his life and he was strong in the Force. Snoke had been successful in manipulating Ben at a young age, making him feel like he had a place with the him and the Dark Side. Once Luke had seen the corruption Snoke was causing to his nephew, he acted upon instinct. Rather than attempting to comfort his nephew and help him understand and be a good uncle, Luke thought only about the academy he had built. This is why Luke took out his lightsaber, thinking about his work over his family. This is something that Luke, Han and Leia all failed in. It isn’t until Luke realized what he was about to do when igniting his saber. Ben took it upon this moment to turn to the Dark Side and destroy Luke’s academy at this point. He still could’ve been saved in that moment, but because of the mistake Luke had made, the abandoning acts made by his family, and Snoke’s manipulations, he was led to believe that his uncle was going to kill him, which he very nearly thought about doing. Ben acted upon self defense and took Snoke’s advice. Even when Rey asks Luke if he created Kylo Ren, you could even see that he had a part to play in Ben’s turn.

Okay I see your point. I guess that makes him slightly more along the lines of a Hamlet. However, we never saw any of this in the movies.

And even if we did, those circumstances don’t seem like they’d be enough to explain why a teenager would go on a murderous rampage. That’s kind of a crazy jump to make. If my Uncle was a teacher, and he tried to kill me, I wouldn’t escape and then kill all of his students. Revenge like that is ridiculously immature.

All of these acts were from the influences and teachings of Snoke.

How did he influence him? What were his teachings? How did they even meet? We don’t know anything about these characters, and they make fundamental changes to the story.

I still don’t see how a boy who lets a stranger like Snoke influence him into killing people, makes him a sympathetic character. I can think of a lot of Nazis who have an arc like this, and we don’t sympathize with them. A person can always make a decision NOT to kill people. “Someone told me to do it” is not an excuse. It just reveals that the character is weak and cannot make decisions for himself.

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#1271189
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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SilverWook said:

leetwall31 said:

I’m not a fan of these stand alone films. They don’t seem to be working, and I think they’re ruining Star Wars by taking away the mystique and fan fare of the episodes.

If they want to make a good Obi-Wan movie, then they should remake the prequels.

We’ve only had two so far, one that did better than expected, and one that was seemingly cursed from the beginning with behind the scenes turmoil, and being released into an overcrowded summer market far too soon after TLJ.

Remakes are not happening.

It’s not the movies I don’t like, it’s just the idea of them. Stand-alone Star Wars movies don’t interest me. Actual Star Wars movies (the episodes) do.

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#1271186
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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nl0428 said:

leetwall31 said:

nl0428 said:

I actually sympathized with him and felt bad for how lonely, isolated, and betrayed he was by his family.

Really? That’s not what I pick up at all. How do you think he was betrayed?

Han and Leia, while they loved him, didn’t spend enough time with him as a child. Both were busy leading the Rebellion (now the Resistance) while Ben felt isolated at times. Han was always jumping back and forth from still smuggling (before he went back full time after Ben’s downfall) and Leia became a hard-working senator in the new Republic. Both of their busy lives took up the majority of their lives when Ben was younger, as if he was abandoned. Even when they sent him to Luke’s academy, Ben still felt that he was being looked aside from his family, adding more to his depression and loneliness. This is the same abandonment and lonely feeling that Rey had been suffering from on Jakku. This is what led Snoke to manipulate him, as he was in a vulnerable place in his life and he was strong in the Force. Snoke had been successful in manipulating Ben at a young age, making him feel like he had a place with the him and the Dark Side. Once Luke had seen the corruption Snoke was causing to his nephew, he acted upon instinct. Rather than attempting to comfort his nephew and help him understand and be a good uncle, Luke thought only about the academy he had built. This is why Luke took out his lightsaber, thinking about his work over his family. This is something that Luke, Han and Leia all failed in. It isn’t until Luke realized what he was about to do when igniting his saber. Ben took it upon this moment to turn to the Dark Side and destroy Luke’s academy at this point. He still could’ve been saved in that moment, but because of the mistake Luke had made, the abandoning acts made by his family, and Snoke’s manipulations, he was led to believe that his uncle was going to kill him, which he very nearly thought about doing. Ben acted upon self defense and took Snoke’s advice. Even when Rey asks Luke if he created Kylo Ren, you could even see that he had a part to play in Ben’s turn.

Okay I see your point. I guess that makes him slightly more along the lines of a Hamlet. However, we never saw any of this in the movies.

And even if we did, those circumstances don’t seem like they’d be enough to explain why a teenager would go on a murderous rampage. That’s kind of a crazy jump to make. If my Uncle was a teacher, and he tried to kill me, I wouldn’t escape and then kill all of his students. Revenge like that is ridiculously immature.

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#1271174
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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nl0428 said:

What about Kylo Ren? He’s a part of the family.

I guess…but it’s only on his Mother’s side. And worst of all, he murdered his own father, and attempted to kill his own mother. Why should we care what happens to this dude? What are the odds the family even wants him back? They seem to be down for just killing him now. Episode 9 has to answer these questions, and like I said, it’s gonna be tough.

Zachary VIII said:

nl0428 said:

What about Kylo Ren? He’s a part of the family.

Kylo will probably die. And he has no heir.

I’m interested to see what they do with him. If they make him repent, I hope it’s not done in a cheesy way. He needs to be punished for what he’s done, and lifetime in jail seems fair. I have this really bad feeling he’s gonna go good, he’s gonna find love somehow, and he’ll be forgiven for everything.

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#1271172
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DominicCobb said:

The fact that the scene was, in fact, filmed. I think it’s maybe one of the top SW cut scenes that should have been in the movie (well, depending on how it looks when played out).

I disagree. From what I saw, it looked like the most awkward duel ever. Anakin was just standing there, watching them. And the worst part was that he wasn’t in the background. He was like a couple feet off, making dumb faces trying to show the audience he was torn about this. I’m sooooo happy it was cut.

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#1271170
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Rian Johnson to Head New Star Wars Trilogy
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I really want to know what it was that LucasFilm saw in Rian Johnson that made them believe he could do this. He has good story ideas, sometimes(they’re kind of hit or miss). But I find his execution style to be all wrong. He’ll come up with an amazing idea, but then play it off a certain way in the film that destroys it. He’s not a great story teller that respects mythology and cultural impact. He’s more of a conventional film maker, with quirks. That’s not enough really to helm a Star Wars trilogy.

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#1271167
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Zachary VIII said:

I’m interested in how they would even do a fourth trilogy. There likely won’t be any more Skywalkers by the end of IX, and I don’t see how they can make another mainline trilogy without them.

Me too, and I think most Star Wars fans would agree with you. Honestly, Episode 7 should’ve been Episode 10. One thing I don’t like about this new trilogy is how convoluted the story is. They have to explain things to us in Flashbacks, which Star Wars shouldn’t have to do. There could’ve been a whole other trilogy to explain what happened with Luke and Kylo Ren. It doesn’t make sense to skip to this point in time, when they could’ve told us the story in order, like the other 6 movies did. This trilogy should have been the 4th trilogy.

I doubt their 4th trilogy will have Skywalkers. Assuming Luke was a virgin the whole saga, there’s no real heir.

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#1271165
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I had a lot of high hopes for this movie. I was enjoying the trailers and where they were going with Luke. I was totally on board. And yet…I’m not a fan of the movie in the end.

Before the movie came out, I had heard about what Luke does in his first scene with Rey, where he throws his lightsaber off the cliff. I read that at the time and my mind was BLOWN! I was like “Wow! That is such an awesome idea, and it completely subverts out expectations!” I couldn’t wait to see that scene in the theater, and as it happened, I wanted to see how the audience would react, anddd…it wasn’t right. Something about how he did it seemed off. It didn’t solicit the interesting response I thought it would, and it was nowhere near as cool as it seemed to me at the time I read about it.

I find it interesting that before I saw that moment, I thought it was the coolest idea. Then I saw it, and it wasn’t right, and I didn’t think it was cool at all. I think it was the way he did it over his back. I didn’t think he would do it like that. And it’s done in a way where we’re expected to laugh, when in reality it’s shocking. If it was played seriously for a shock, I totally believe it could’ve worked. But it was done for a laugh. I think the film had some good ideas, but executed them in the wrong way.

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#1271161
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I kinda wish at this point they had kept Luke alive. I’m interested to see how JJ’s gonna conclude things. It’s certainly going to be difficult.

At this point, I’m kinda disinterested in the whole sequel trilogy. It’s not a solid original story like the other 6 were. Now that George revealed a bit about what his ideas for the sequel trilogy would’ve been, I wish they had made those movies instead of these.

I can understand why LucasFilm didn’t want to tho. I imagine George’s original outline for Episode 9 probably concluded the entire Saga, and LucasFilm and Disney are not out to end the Star Wars story.

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#1064571
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Star Wars moving forward without Ms. Fisher
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Poor Carrie, first off.

I remember reading a rumor that Leia’s gonna be in a coma or something in episode 8. If that’s true, that would be an easy way to deal with Carrie’s death. They should do something where Rey uses the force to go inside her head and rescue her. She finds her in her subconscious and tells her good news (Kylo repented or something), and Leia say’s she’s at peace and is willing to pass.

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#1064555
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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TV’s Frink said:

leetwall31 said:

Poe and Finn seem useless for the future.

I don’t see why.

They’re just guys. And Finn’s just an ordinary person mixed up in this. I could care less what happens to both of them. That sounds harsh, but to me… they’re just there and they don’t really affect the outcome that much.

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#1064551
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What is wrong with... <strong>Attack of the Clones</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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Scott, I think you’re right on! When I first saw Attack of the Clones as a kid, I really picked up on the espionage vibe… too bad it didn’t pay off, but that’s a small, easily fixable flaw.

I think people are missing the big picture about the anti-love law for the Jedi. I think it can be used to work towards Anakin’s rejection of the Jedi way. Anakin (like us) was expecting the Jedi to be like Buddhist monks, but instead we find out they’re a strict cult with abnormal laws and brainwash little kids into becoming “peaceful” soldiers. That’s messed up. That’s also good. Anakin doesn’t like it, and neither do we. His marriage is his first act of rebellion, and the audience is totally behind that. This is one way we can relate to his fall to the dark side. Eventually though, there will be a point where we will realize it was a mistake.

The prophecy is that he will bring balance to the Force. Balance means BOTH sides are to be in check, and if one side is outta wack then so is the other. Look at the start of the prequels; the Sith are extinct. Who’s the oppressed faction here? The Jedi committed genocide against the Sith. Sure the Sith were evil, but that’s what the Jedi tell us. But from what we/Anakin hear from Palpatine, it sounds like they were just force-users who used their powers for themselves. Does that really make them evil?? Even Superman used his powers for personal gain at times.

The Jedi are at a point where they take orders for the Senate. They’re not guardians of peace anymore; they’re space cops, answering only to the corrupt Republic. The republic’s corrupt, therefore so are the Jedi. It’s that simple. That’s why Anakin was too old. He could see through this. The other younglings are raised into this system and cannot see beyond what’s imposed upon them. The Jedi search for all the force-sensitive younglings to teach them the ONE WAY to use the force. They’re trying to control how the force is used. There can be no good without evil. For the Jedi council; you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain, and they’ve done that.

The whole “you can’t love” and “you can’t see your mother” aspects are perfect seeds of distrust against the Jedi for Anakin! George was on to something, he just didn’t make it plain enough for us to see. He adds too much to distract us.

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#1064508
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How to turn the Phantom Menace into the Phenomenal Menace
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lovelikewinter said:
I do wish Maul had continued as the main villain and taken Dooku and Grievous’ place. You can still have him get cut in half and his return in Attack of the Clones would have been a shock to Obi-Wan and it would make sense Kenobi would be the one to track him down and eventually end him on Utapau.

Yeah that’s a great idea. Maybe you could morph Grievous into Maul. Makes it a much more personal vendetta.

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#1064501
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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So glad they killed Han. Han had to go. He was a pirate not a hero.

I don’t get where Kylo Ren is going, but when he wears the mask I love him.

Poe and Finn seem useless for the future.

Why does Chewbacca look younger?? When’s he gonna go gray?

I really did not like how the film copied beats from a new hope, but it showed me how you create “poetry” and make it rhyme properly.

To be honest, it really really doesn’t make sense that there’s still a “resistance” after the Republic got control back.

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#1064489
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How to turn the Phantom Menace into the Phenomenal Menace
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  1. Turn the Gungans into the Mon Calamari.
  2. Turn Jar Jar into Admiral Ackbar
  3. Turn Anakin back into a 14 year old
  4. Make the Jedi a branch of the Republic. They answer to the senate instead of themselves. This’ll create tension in the future for Anakin.
  5. When the Jedi escape the planet of Naboo with the Queen, have the rescued pilots get in Naboo fighters to help the Queen escape the blockade (makes it more realistic)
  6. In the senate meeting in the movie, Valorum refuses to acknowledge the invasion and only offers to send a team to investigate. He only does this because the Trade Federation says Naboo’s claims are too crazy to believe. Instead, have the Trade Federation mention how instead of ambassadors, Valorum sent Jedi to intimidate them. This kind of news is scandalous and would work as a blow to Valorum.
  7. Play up on the civil rights issue with the Gungans and the Nabooians. Make it a central theme, that they have to put aside their prejudices and come together to save the planet.
  8. Explain why the Trade Federation would want the planet of Naboo.
  9. Change the “Naboo is starving because of the blockade” to “Trade Federation oppressing people”. They won’t starve if they don’t trade. They’re a PLANET! They have their own resources.
  10. Leave Anakin building 3PO. It’s fine, just make sure that he assembled him with spare protocol droid parts, like it says in the original draft.
  11. Change the title to The Force Awakens. It works much much better. The chosen one is found and the Sith return. Those are some pretty significant events for the future of the force.
  12. Instead of the senate being distracted by trade negotiations, change it to being distracted by chancellor election season. Makes Palpatine becoming Chancellor by the end of the movie more realistic.
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#1064482
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How to turn the Phantom Menace into the Phenomenal Menace
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Hi guys! I’m new here and wanted to talk about the only reason Star Wars still occupies my mind to this day: the prequels. I don’t hate them, at all. I also don’t love them. But I like them enough. Enough to often wonder if a certain tweak could’ve changed how we felt about them.

I guess I fall within the millennial category, and my Dad never got into the Star Wars hype when he was young, so when I wanted to watch Star Wars as a kid, he didn’t know better to steer me away from the prequels. In fact, he told me I was lucky to be a kid now since I could watch them chronologically (he knew that much)! So the first Star Wars movie I saw was the first installment of the prequel trilogy, the Phantom Menace (I had no idea what that meant and it was a real turnoff at first (it sounded real nerdy)).

The only bad part I remember was Darth Vader not showing up in the first 2 movies, but that’s the only thing that kept me going. I didn’t care about Yoda or the lightsabers that much. That’s why episode 3 got me pumped, but I had to skip that one since it was 2004 and it wasn’t out yet. So I started watching the original trilogy. That’s when Star Wars got good. But keep in mind, the difference between a good movie and a bad movie to a kid is attention span. Unlike the prequels, my attention did not waiver with the originals. I was sill hooked certain moments in the prequels, but I was actually interested in the originals. The best moment from episode 4 for me was seeing Obi-Wan because I immediately recognized him and felt such shock. What happened to the young guy from episode 2? Why is he hiding in a desert? Then episode 5 came and the real surprise hit me; Darth Vader is Anakin. Wow. Did not at all see that coming. Huge twist, especially since I saw what he was before. That’s just some insight on how a millennial grew up with Star Wars. The prequels didn’t ruin everything for us. In fact, they lowered our expectations, which in turn made the originals even more awesome. I feel sorry for the guys who had to watch the originals than the prequels. That must’ve sucked.

Growing older and looking back at the Prequels is different for me since I grew up with them instead of the originals. All I can see is the potential, still untapped. The only reason I still think about Star Wars, is because I’d like to figure out if certain parts of the prequels could’ve been tweaked enough to enhance the Star Wars saga. I’ve seen all these “What if they were good” videos, but I don’t think the answer is laying in a new foundation. Sure you could do that, but it’s unnecessary. Just certain things need to be changed, not the entire story. In fact, I think the underlying plot of the prequels is much more entertaining than the original trilogy. That’s why I find this frustrating! I’m going to present my ideas on how small tweaks could greatly enhance the Phantom Menace, a good movie that is boggled down by trivial elements. I would love to also hear everyone else’s ideas as well!

tl;dr

Tell me what small changes could’ve been made to the Phantom Menace that would’ve greatly enhanced the Star Wars Saga