haha, good one Flexicon9!
i've got a lot of uploading to do over the next few days with The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and new improved versions of Raiders of the Lost Ark and Once Upon A Time in the West i've just finished but i'll see if I can upload the 16gb release of Mad Max 2 to the spleen by Wednesday. :)
TheHutt said:
I doubt you can split a film with frame precision in TSmuxer.
You can't split with single frame precision with TSmuxer but in this case I don't believe you need to. I don't know about Andrea's workflow but in his place I would split the film as close as I could to the flaw and start encoding from the next frame after the first part of the split ends to the end of the film, then use tsmuxer to join the first part of the split to the new corrected encode of the last five minutes, saving myself having to reencode the whole film in the process.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
Agreed... but I think I'm cursed, are you too?
I watched them all with my wife - our eyes hurts, by the way (^^,) and I discovered another badly encoded frame just five minutes before the end... it's a curse, or simply some software has problems...
So, I will re-do the encode a third (and I hope for the last) time - but this time I'll switch off EVERY other software, and avoid to open ANY video file; I'm going to download the last version of both AviSynth and x264... maybe the browser will be the only software I'll leave opened, because AFAIR I had no problems with previous project encoding leaving it opened... and, if I will forced to do a 4th encoding, I'll do it using a completely clean and with fresh OS reinstall.
Wish me luck again!
Can't you just use tsmuxer to split the film just before that error so you only need to reencode the last 5 minutes, then join the two encodes to have the whole film fixed without needing to reencode the whole thing again?
For those interested, i've just put up a 16gb version of my Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior regraded release with DTS-HD 5.1 audio on tehparadox.
little-endian said:
PDB said:
I haven't downloaded it but I know kk650/kingkong made a regraded version where he fixed the contrast.
Many thanks for pointing me into the right direction, PDB. I even had the chance to grab a copy in the meantime. The effort which was done is amazing and the result is definitely better and colorwise closer to the DVD for sure, however clipped whites still clip which was expected since kk650 can't perform magic and create detail which has been gone already, so my search is still valid, I'm afraid.
Thanks little-endian, very kind of you to say that.
You're right about the clipped whites of course, that detail has been burned out of the blu-ray transfer and as much as I wanted to, I couldn't bring back the detail lost in the clipped whites or crushed blacks.
I love Leon: Director's Cut, its probably my favourite film, so after reading this thread i've been looking into whether a hdtv version exists with more details in the shadows and highlights. What I was able to discover was that there was a 14gb 1080i release of leon available of the internet a few years back, it had the details in the shadows and highlights intact, the only problem is that based on the screencap comparisons i've seen, the detail was very poor indeed, the hdtv version looked softer even than the dvd. Here are some comparisons by Xylon on AVS below showing the hdtv version compared to the dvd and blu-ray:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/150-blu-ray-software/1200776-la-professional-comparison-pix.html
For now it seems that the best source is the blu-ray, warts and all. I just hope that at some point this film gets a 4K remaster, it really does deserve it, brilliant acting, fantastic script, great cinematography and an incredible score, with the Director's Cut it has it all, an almost perfect film IMHO.
StarmanSkywalker said:
Forth'd.
tehparadox and my wifi don't agree and it keeps dropping the longer downloads. However, from the first segment of TPM, I could already see that the subtle grain did bring back the surface detail.
I'll see what I can do about getting the 16gb prequel releases onto myspleen.
I certainly find TPM a big improvement with grain added but the bitrate has to be pretty high to capture satisfactorily the fine grain from the regrained bd-50 TPM master I created a year ago (that took a week to encode...).
I'll probably create a new 22-23gb release of TPM, should be a noticable improvement on the 16gb release I created a year back.
Octorox said:
kane1138 said:
pittrek said:
The regraded prequels sound interesting. Would somebody upload it to a certain spleen ?
I'm seconding this request.
So far, only the 8gb version of ANH is on the 'spleen. I would love to see the 16gb versions.
thirded, specifically for the prequels, do they sync to the blu-rays?
I'm 100% certain that The Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith do. Attack of the Clones had a few shots moved around compared to the theatrical release/dvd/hdtv stream, I can't remember what I did there, whether I moved round the audio or the video so it synced correctly, I'll have a quick look now.
EDIT: Okay, I just got round to comparing my release to the hdtv stream and I moved the video round to fit with the audio on the blu-ray, so the answer to your question is yes, all three prequels should sync to the blu-rays.
towne32 said:
kk650 said:
@_,,,^..^,,,_ : I've had a look at all three versions of Star Wars and yes I was right, the retro release is the one that looks most similar to your screencaps.
@Octorox: There is a blanket green tint over ROTS, its pretty subtle though so i'm not surprised that most don't notice it. Annoyingly it seems that imageshack has deleted all my comparison shots, i'll see whether I have the ROTS ones still lying around on my harddisk still.
Do you know if that green tint was there in the theatrical version? If it's slight, that may be a hard thing to figure out. Wonder if there were DVD screening copies floating around back then.
I suspect that it was originally there in the theatrical version. I believe the popularity of the green/teal look had already started at that point. I'm sure AOTC in the cinema didn't have that green/teal tint present on the blu-ray though, i'm pretty certain it looked like the dvd and hdtv in terms of colour, which both look much more appealing.
TheHutt said:
I'll also be releasing a less colourful version with the grotto scene included
Please do that. That's the one I am waiting for.
If you're redoing the mono audio to fix that audio drop at 02:32:50 in the release with the grotto scene, it'd probably be a better idea for me to wait on uploading the other two releases, i'll probably also have to reupload the ones already there. I'm going to listen to your audio track the whole way through, see whether I pick up on any other similar audio drops. Has anybody else come across anything?
Lil Brutto said:
kk650 said:
Just letting you guys know that I've just released a less saturated version of my regraded release...
So glad you're still tinkering with this film. Where can we find your latest release? Your thread at tehparadox hasn't been updated yet.
It's in a new thread of its own on tehparadox. It can be found at the top of the main release list.
Just letting you guys know that I've just released a less saturated version of my regraded release that is a lot more similar in terms of overall saturation to the mondo release. Those that like the mondo release will very likely prefer this less colourful release to my previous release, I feel that it is a lot more balanced overall in terms of colour, especially in the indoor scenes. It is now my prefered version of this film.
I've also removed the grotto scene because I feel it is very poor and doesn't add anything to the film. I totally understand why Sergio Leone removed it and it should not have been reinstated in the US Extended Cut IMHO.
I'll also be releasing a less colourful version with the grotto scene included and a more colourful version with the Grotto scene removed, i've got a lot of uploading to do in the next few days haha
Here's one of those screenshots above taken from the less colourful regraded release:
Just letting you guys know that i've created a new encode of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly that is less saturated than my first one. The colour in certain scenes of the first release were bugging me. This new version feels more 'balanced' to me colourwise in all the scenes compared to my first one that felt overly saturated in certain scenes like the first scene with Angel Eyes so it is now my prefered version of this film. I will of course be leaving the colourful version up as well for those that prefer it.
I'm also planning to create versions of these two releases with just the grotto scene removed and nothing else because I personally like all the other added scenes.
Has anybody got round to checking my first release? What did you think?
@_,,,^..^,,,_ : I've had a look at all three versions of Star Wars and yes I was right, the retro release is the one that looks most similar to your screencaps.
@Octorox: There is a blanket green tint over ROTS, its pretty subtle though so i'm not surprised that most don't notice it. Annoyingly it seems that imageshack has deleted all my comparison shots, i'll see whether I have the ROTS ones still lying around on my harddisk still.
Okay, the regraded release of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly including TheHutt's mono audio and the DTS 5.1 track from the blu-ray is now up on tehparadox. :)
I still need to add the release specs and other details in the release thread but the links are now available.
Good news guys, its finished encoding and I just muxed all the tracks together. It was very close, I only had around 200mb of free space left, but it fits on a bd-25. :)
I should have this regraded release of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly with the DTS 5.1 audio from the blu-ray and TheHutt's mono audio up on tehparadox in around 6 hours.
I've done something like what you're describing, keeping the good SE changes (like Luke's reunion with Biggs for example) while removing the bad changes like Jabba in Star Wars, Greedo shooting first, Jedi Rocks, Hayden Christensen in ROTJ etc etc with my Semi-Specialised editions of the OT.
I personally feel that quite a few of the SE changes, especially improvements in special effects shots like many of the x-wing shots during the Battle of Yavin, improve the Original Trilogy and therefore should be kept.
You can find all the details of changes kept/removed in these Star Wars OT Semi-Specialised editions in the first post of the thread below:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/kk650s-Star-Wars-Saga-Regraded-and-Semi-Specialized/topic/15637/
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
Let me be for a moment a fan restoration archeologist... (^^,) from my own OUT laserdisc based project:
I'd like to watch the version with the color grading similar to this one - in particular, grey wall on the Death Star...
My main computer is in the middle of encoding The Good, the Bad and the Ugly so I can't check the colours for you right now but if the Death Star walls being as grey as possible is a priority, I imagine the Retro release will be the one that you will prefer most.
When it finishes encoding tomorrow i'll check the colours of those scenes with the different settings and let you know which is closest in colour to those screencaps you posted.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
I'm happy you finally found the right settings; I know how hard could be these kind of tasks...
Congratulations, good job, as usual! Now, the only problem for me is to choose the version I will like most... advice?
Andrea, your honest and constructive feedback has been incredibly helpful in getting me to this point, thank you! :)
Hmm, if I had to guess i'd say that the majority of people will like the classic settings the most. I'd imagine that you will as well. It's the 'safest' of the three settings and the one I recommend you and people in general check out first and if they want punchier colours, go with the technicolor and if they find the colours too strong on the classic, the retro release is the one to go for.
The retro setting has a very interesting matte filmic feeling to it, poita said that the Star Wars print is not as saturated as we've been led to believe in recent years and the retro settings very much reflect that. The retro release already out there is almost the same as the final settings so everybody can check that one out on myspleen/tehparadox to see what I mean, see whether they like that distinctive 'look'.
The technicolor I expect to be the least popular of the three, its the least 'safe'. The colours are very punchy, I have tried to get a nice technicolor 'kick' without going overboard with the saturation.
I hope that helps you decide. If in doubt, go classic. :)
Memorex said:
Great news kk! :) May I ask the size of the final encode? Will it fit on a bd-25?
That's the aim yes. I hope I've calculated the sizes correctly. I'll know when it finishes encoding and I add the DTS 5.1 audio and TheHutt's mono audio to the regraded video.
Okay, after much comparing using screencap comparisons, the newer settings do go a little too far in trying to remove the blue shine that me and towne32 have noticed with the older settings, so I've gone back to the older settings but i've found another far more subtle way to remove that blue shine but keeps the rest of the colours pretty much intact. I'm 100% satisfied now with how it looks and have finalised the Retro, Classic and Technicolor settings for all three films.
If anybody wants to see how a certain part will look from Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi with one of the three settings, let me know the timecode from the blu-ray and i'll put up a 1 minute regraded clip from that part so you can see how it'll look on these Semi-Specialised editions.
RIP Eli Wallach. He was absolutely fantastic in this film.
Just letting you guys know that i'm in the middle of encoding the regraded version of this amazing film. It should be finished by tomorrow, I'll add TheHutt's great mono audio to the English DTS 5.1 audio from the blu-ray then get it up on tehparadox. I ended up going with exactly the same settings as the latest screencap comparisons I've posted here.
Here's another screencap comparison that I posted on blu-ray.com:
TheHutt said:
The print from Italy, of course.
Ah, okay. Just wish I could do more to help with obtaining that.
TheHutt said:
I wish everyone involved the best of luck obtaining this treasure. :)
As for my mono restoration project, I started an own thread for this.
Obtaining what treasure TheHutt? You're not really making much sense.
Great job!
Here's a screencap comparison from that scene:
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