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#59350
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59350/action/topic#59350
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
And look how far DVD-A has gone.

Both formats are using DD and DTS mainly for their tracks.

Another point to make is that HD-DVD has no encryption yet. It won't go anywhere without it.


Agree with you there. Blu-Ray is ahead of HD-DVD in terms of encription. HD-DVD does have alot of encryption work on it but it has yet to be finalized in the forum. My opinion thats why no American studio has commited. As soon as a good encription is demonstrated and finalized it will get more then enough studio support in time for a fall 2005 American launch.
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#59348
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59348/action/topic#59348
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
Why will Blu-Ray suck with MPEG-2? Tests have shown that there is no drop in picture quality, and there are problems with the codecs HD-DVD is using.

This isn't a one-track thing.


Like I said HD-DVD with MPEG-4 holds more information then Blu-Ray with MPEG-2. Both formats will include full 1080p quality. I don't think either will look better. I do think HD-DVD will have better sound. The DVD forum is planning lossless codecs for HD-DVD. I have heard nothing of Sony doing that for Blu-Ray. If you have heard DVD-A you will know how much better it is to any movie soundtrack on DVD. HD-DVD promises that quality for movies. Blu-Ray is working on the next generation of current DVD sound formats. It will sound better then current DVD but HD-DVD will have the audio advantage.
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#59346
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59346/action/topic#59346
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Current Blu-Ray recorders are only recorders. Prerecorded Blu-Ray discs will not play on them. Toshiba seems confident that they can get HD-DVD released in Japan in the first half of 2005 and America in the second half. Also yeah codecs can be changed. The point is HD-DVD has already finalized the better codecs into the spec. Blu-Ray has not. If its officially announced that Blu-Ray will definutly use the better codecs I will change my mind on this issue. If Blu-Ray sticks with MPEG-2 it will suck. HD-DVD will be better in every way. Blu-Ray will have nothing to go on and will have no chance of winning. If Blu-Ray does adopt a better codec it would then be the better format but still might loose like Beta since HD-DVD seems much more of a consumer friendly standard.
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#59336
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59336/action/topic#59336
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That article is 7 months old. Mine is less then one month old. Membership is free so I suggest getting a membership to video business. They have alot of great articles. This article states just about everything I have been saying that HD-DVD will be out in America in 2005. HD-DVD will be recordable too. They estimate the first HD-DVD recorder will be out six months ahead of the first player. Thats a mid 2006 release date. Like I said Warner will release titles in HD-DVD because if HD-DVD wins this war Warner will make alot of money. HD-DVD has eight titles as of now. No doubt that titles will be slow at first but Toshiba apparently has no doubts that they will get more support in time for its launch.
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#59292
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59292/action/topic#59292
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D-VHS as good as DVD what are you smoking. I have compared D-VHS and DVD of Independence Day. There is no comparison. The D-VHS is so so so much better. I was absolutly blown away by D-VHS. Unfortunitly I don't own a D-VCR myself because lets face it. Higher quality or not its still a tape. I have invested alot in replacing tapes with discs and will not go backwards no matter how good it looks. And it looks fucking amazing. Both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray promise resolution higher then D-VHS and with all the convience a the disc format offers. Read this article HD-DVD will be out in America before the ball drops for 2006. Blu-Ray will not. Each format has one format that has commited to it. Blu-Ray has Columbia Tristar. HD-DVD has Poly Cannon (Japanese studio). Though Warner has not yet commited Warner owns stocks in current DVD technolgy which HD-DVD is an extension of. If HD-DVD wins Warner makes alot of money. So if you don't think Warner will release titles on HD-DVD soon I don't know what your smoking. New Line is also a Time Warner studio. Both Sony and Warner are trying to buy MGM and as of now Warner has the better offer. Disney, Universal, Fox, and Artisan all appear to be showing more intrest in HD-DVD then Blu-Ray at the momment as well. Disney voted for HD-DVD in the forum and basically whichever format Disney supports will be the format that most familys will support.
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#59289
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59289/action/topic#59289
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HD-DVD will be out in early 2005 in Japan and Late 2005 in America. Thats a six month head start to Blu-Ray. Also MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 are not video standards just compression standards. MPEG-1 can produce high definition picture is given enough bit rate. MPEG-4 can hold 6x the picture quality at only twice the bit rate. 3x as much information into the space. With that the lower capacity HD-DVD holds 30% more information. Also HD-DVD has already finalized MPEG-4 and VC-9 into the spec. The motion to adopt a better codec was denyed by the Blu-Ray group last year. They will be voting again on the issue earlier next month. With way it will go don't know. As of now with HD-DVD officially backing these better codecs and Blu-Ray currently not I am all for HD-DVD.
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#59276
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Terminator Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59276/action/topic#59276
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Originally posted by: Switch Radic
I've met one of those idiots. One of the guys I worked with at CVS was buying the fullscreen version of T3 and I told him that you can see more of the picture in a widescreen version than in a fullscreen. He's like, "What are you talking about, the picture is smaller." Of course when your talking about a film shot on super 35, the fullscreen gives you more of the shot horizontally and the widescreen version vertically. In most cases though, you lose a good 35 percent of your image in a fullscreen version of a movie.


Terminator 3 was the only movie I ever bought a fullscreen DVD over a widescreen one. Fullscreen is better for that movie. There are exceptions to every rule. Click Here. Still Widescreen is definutly best for the first movie. I also think I speak for everyone in saying I never want to see a fullscreen Star Wars movie again.
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#59274
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59274/action/topic#59274
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
To comment on the codecs, Blu-Ray will support MPEG-4 as well as VC-9 too. It also features encryption, something that HD-DVD will probably not have, thus making executives prefer it over HD-DVD.

As for release dates... Blu-Ray is already out in Japan. It will be in the US in either late 2005, or 2006, though players are annoucned for August of 2005. Don't expect to see HD-DVD titles out until 2006 at the earliest. And it will still be a number of years before they start becoming as afforable as DVD.

And enough of the crap about HD-DVD being so cheap to produce. The encoding process is completely different, regardless of the manufacturing process.

Don't underestimate people's stupidity. There will be plenty of announcements on Blu-Ray. No one knew was DVD was, but that didn't stop it, did it?

Personally, it will be quite some time until I invest in new player for these formats. I already have quite a bit put into my DVD collection. I'll get a few titles that would be worth it, such as Lawrence of Arabia, Star Wars, titles that would actually be an improvement. DVD is a spectacular format and I see no reason to dump it all for a new format that will soon be obsolete in another 5-10 years.


The Blu-Ray association is considering better codecs but as of now Blu-Ray only has MPEG-2 as the standard. Read the article link HD-DVD will have prerecorded media before Blu-Ray. When Sony officially announces Blu-Ray will use a better codec I will probably change my mind. As of now I am all for HD-DVD.
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#59222
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59222/action/topic#59222
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HD-DVD definutly is my pick as of now. For many reasons. First of all the higher capacity of Blu-Ray is always touted. Blu-Ray has a maximum prerecord capacity of 54 gigabits while HD-DVD has only 30 gigabits. Thing is Blu-Ray discs use MPEG-2 compression. The same as SD-DVD uses. HD-DVD has already finalized MPEG-4 and VC-9 compression. With that a 30 gigabit HD-DVD can hold 30% more information then a 54 gigabit Blu-Ray. Yes HD-DVD will be out in America in 2005. It will be out at least 6 months ahead of Blu-Ray.Read here. It also has the advantage in cost. Blu-Ray has a radical new disc structure that requires new assembly lines in order to produce. HD-DVD has greater storage but the same disc structure as SD-DVD. With that HD-DVD will be 20% cheaper to produce then Blu-Ray. While not a technical advantage the formats name is also an advantage. Consumers know what DVD means and know what HD means. Consumers will see HD-DVD and know that means high definition movies on disc. The name Blu-Ray is oviously a reference to the blue lasers. Most people don't know anything about the difference between red and blue lasers. So someone will hear about Blu-Ray and just say huh and pass it up.
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#59202
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Terminator Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59202/action/topic#59202
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
i always get screwed by the stupid workers at video stores...
i have the widescreen case for it... but for some reason they still think i want fullscreen...
im glad those kids are really earning their minimum wage....


Again Luke we agree. From what I hear widescreen version sales are still higher then fullscreen sales. With good reason. People who only want half the movie are well idiots
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#59154
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You might not believe Lucas said this...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59154/action/topic#59154
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You may not know this, but Lucas asked Kershner for his permission to make the changes, even though he didn't have to. Kershner gave Lucas his full blessing and even commented that he liked the changes. I think the only one he didn't like was the scream added to Luke's fall.
However, it doesn't matter. Lucas wrote the story to Empire Strikes Back and wrote the first draft of the script. It's Lucas' vision that Kershner was presenting. So Empire Strikes Back is Lucas' work and vision.

Also there is a difference. Lucas made the Star Wars movies. He is only modifying his own work. In most colorizing cases its not the original filmmaker colorizing it.
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#59139
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You might not believe Lucas said this...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59139/action/topic#59139
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Kershner will do a commentary on this DVD. I am sure on it he will express how he feels about the Special Editions and Lucas. Also if thats true (which I doubt) I do loose some respect for Lucas. Theres no doubt The Empire Strikes Back is much better then Return of the Jedi. I heard Lucas stated in another interview that he has no favorite of his creations.
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#59100
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Reminder: Bootlegs of commercially available DVDs (such as the upcoming trilogy release) are NOT PERMITTED
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59100/action/topic#59100
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Both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will require a new player to play the new discs. Both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players will play standard DVD discs. Thing is just about everyone with a digital television will see a reason for upgrading. People don't like bought and payed for movies looking worse then there TV shows. HD-DVD is definutly the best of the two new formats. While supporters of Blu-Ray always point out the fact that HD-DVD has a capacity of 30 gigabits while Blu-Ray has a capacity of up to 54 gigabits. HD-DVD uses VC-9 and MPEG-4. Blu-Ray still uses MPEG-2. With MPEG-4 compression a 30 gigabit HD-DVD holds 30% more information then a 54 gigabit Blu-Ray.
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#59063
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Reminder: Bootlegs of commercially available DVDs (such as the upcoming trilogy release) are NOT PERMITTED
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59063/action/topic#59063
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HD-DVD - 1920 x 1080
SD-DVD - 720 x 480
VHS - 320 x 240

The difference in quality between HD-DVD and SD-DVD is huge. Even greater then the difference between DVD and VHS. HD-DVD has twice the resolution of D-VHS, 3x the resolution of HDTV, and 6x the resolution of SD-DVD. The worst looking HD-DVD will be alot better then the best looking SD-DVD. To say that the picture quality won't be much better must come from a person who has never seen a D-VHS movie on a good HDTV. Its amazing. Also unlike Sonys junk HD-DVD can be manufactored with the same assembly lines as current DVDs. With that HD-DVD will be very cheap. Laserdisc and D-VHS were both niche formats because they offered higher quality at the expense of cost and convience. HD-DVD offers much much better quality with all the cheap cost and convience.
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#59037
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Reminder: Bootlegs of commercially available DVDs (such as the upcoming trilogy release) are NOT PERMITTED
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59037/action/topic#59037
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
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Originally posted by: jimbo
HD-DVD will come out in both America and Japan in 2005. True titles will be slow at first but they will grow. No doubt that SD-DVD will not last forever. HD-DVD will eventually replace it. Also I garuntee that Star Wars 30th anniversery will be avaible on HD-DVD.


Tell that to the executives. Hardly anyone wants to go ahead with HD-DVD. And why should they? DVD is their biggest money-maker.

Blu-Ray on the other hand...


Same could be said about VHS in 1996. People could have said VHS is fine for people now and DVD will be a niche. HD-DVD has everything that made DVD successful. Its cheap, its vastly vastly superior, it just makes sense.
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#59001
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Editing the '2oo4 Editions' - which changes would you revert?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59001/action/topic#59001
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Today I have no order since I now don't own the Star Wars trilogy. I recently sold me Special Edition Pan scan tapes at a garage sale. My tapes of the orginals wore out a long time ago and the scratches are to distracting to watch. But I do already have the DVDs preordered for only $34.99. I can't wait to watch all movies in story order.
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#58991
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Editing the '2oo4 Editions' - which changes would you revert?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58991/action/topic#58991
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
well i know Lucas wants us to watch them 1 - 6....
but would it really hurt to watch them 4,5,6,1,2,3?

i mean jimbo that's how you've seen the movies so far... and you love them!
so does it hurt to watch them this way?


Yeah but I like watching stuff in order. Watching them 4,5,6,1,2,3 would be like going to the half way point of a movie and then watching the first half after. It isn't right.