imperialscum

darklordoftech said:

What I hate is the very concept of "canon". I don't care if one story is consistent with another or not, I just want a story that's good.

Well although I generally don't care about the official canon in a sense that just because someone labels it as "canon" I should accept it. Without doubt I will ignore stuff that I don't like.

Still I can't help myself but to care about the consistency when it come to the stuff that I do like, especially if they are dealing with the same characters and events.

TPM = wasabi

AOTC = garlic

ROTS = onion

ANH = maguro sashimi

ESB = zaru soba

ROTJ = ramen

Warbler said:

Who is Ignoring You

You are ignoring me.

TV's Frink said:

imperialscum said:

TV's Frink said:

I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...

If I may say so, you might want to review the use of adjectives. This discussion is not "tired" as it is enthusiastically continue to move forward. It could be however "tiring" to you.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Alert-my-Star-Destroyer-to-prepare-for-my-arrival-What-was-the-point/topic/10993/

But that thread is not about the adjectives.

TV's Frink said:

I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...

If I may say so, you might want to review the use of adjectives. This discussion is not "tired" as it is enthusiastically continue to move forward. It could be however "tiring" to you.

TV's Frink said:

I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...

How sure is that? 90%?

DuracellEnergizer said:

It may not be "calm" and "sarcastic" like most of Vader's other lines, but it certainly isn't the rageaholic meltdown imperialscum's making it out to be.

Since scenes before and after indicate that his primary emotion was a huge disappointment after being rejected by his son, even a slightest level of anger does not fit in there.

NeverarGreat said:

Likewise, not choking every officer on the bridge in the final scene may have been because he was too furious even to exact punishment, he simply retired to his meditation pod to scream his lungs out ;)

Wrong. Observe his body motion in the scenes on the bridge. It is extremely slow and calm. A person boiling with anger would have had a complete opposite body motion. The scene clearly indicates a big disappointment following his son's rejection. Anger has no place here and that is why delivery of "bring my shuttle" in angry fashion ruined the entire sequence for me.

moviefreakedmind said:

No, I'm confused as to whether you think that the original line was delivered too angrily or not. You seem to imply that the original line was delivered angrily, which I guess it was, but no more angrily than any other Vader line in the series (like "I find your lack of faith disturbing")

All other lines were delivered without any anger... with a sole exception "Tear this ship apart".

And this the best example of Vader... cool, intelligent, witty, sarcastic.

Of course this is speaking in general. As for why anger ESPECIALLY does not fit in that particular section of the film, please refer to this post and this post.

moviefreakedmind said:

I'm kind of confused, do you actually think that the "alert my stardestroyer blah blah blah" line is better than the OT version?

I thought I made it clear by now. Original line is better. However the way it is delivered (in angry fashion) ruins the section of the film and Vader's characterisation. Therefore, I will go with relatively lame "Alert my star destroyer..." over a super lame delivery of the original (otherwise decent) line.

DuracellEnergizer said:

BRING MY SHUTTLE!!! BRING MY GODDAMNED, MOTHERFUCKING SHUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is on the level of this.

Tobar said:

Again. That's not EU. That's "canon" now. That post belongs in General Star Wars Thoughts or some new thread about the new canon.

Well EU is defined as everything that is not a film, canon or non-canon.

He sure didn't make that change. It turned cyan after they were changing overall tone. In the same manner, Vader's sabre turned a bit pinkish. Those were not any kind of intentional changes, they were just lazy and not make the corrections.

DuracellEnergizer said:

You think "Alert my star destroyer to prepare for my arrival" is better than "Bring my shuttle", therefore your argument is invalid. 

No I don't think that. Here is what I think:

Silence > "Bring my shuttle" > "Alert my star destroyer..." >>> "BRING MY SHUTTLE!"

DuracellEnergizer said:

Anyone who thinks The Blair Witch Project in a walkoutable movie must be crazy.

Of course... because it is not a walkinable film in the first place.

DuracellEnergizer said:

imperialscum said:

Well Frink proclaimed many of the threads to be the worst. But this one is actually the worst.

Ah, go back to General Star Wars Discussion, you meshugganah.

I will! Only boring stuff around here.

Well Frink proclaimed many of the threads to be the worst. But this one is actually the worst.

darklordoftech said:

Zahn wanted to call the Noghri "Sith" (with Vader being a "Dark Lord of the Sith" because they served him) and wanted Joruus to be a clone of Obi-Wan, but Lucas advised Zahn against both of these ideas.

That is certainly one of the stupidest ideas of EU that I am aware of.

lol

I don't consider Star Trek canon.

Warbler said:

: ( I suck at detecting silliness.

How could you possible live with yourself if you were good at it.

Bring a scanned certificate (signed by your psychiatrist) that you have a dissociative identity disorder and you can have it. I believe with that you should be fully entitled to have it.

Some of my favourite anime are Cowboy Bebop, Psycho-pass, Ghost in the Shell: SAC and Death Note.

Johnny Ringo said:

and then the story ended.

 It ended several pages ago.

Did any of you walk out of the theatre for any of the Star Wars prequels?

No, I am still here. Since 2005.

No, there is absolutely not.